Obama had Trumps phone tapped?

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werepossum

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I would point out that the lack of leaked stupid stuff Trump says in private is proof this never happened, except that it's entirely possible that it did happen and the leaked stupid stuff Trump says in private was merely Trumped (or swamped) by the stupid stuff Trump says in public.
 

Jhhnn

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I would point out that the lack of leaked stupid stuff Trump says in private is proof this never happened, except that it's entirely possible that it did happen and the leaked stupid stuff Trump says in private was merely Trumped (or swamped) by the stupid stuff Trump says in public.

It's distractional bullshit to take the heat off Sessions & Pruitt for lying in their confirmation hearings.
 

Thebobo

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There will be no further White House comments about Trumps wiretap claim against Obama according to spicer tweets.
 

zinfamous

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There will be no further White House comments about Trumps wiretap claim against Obama according to spicer tweets.

And yet Congress has already announced that it will investigate claims.

LoL. see ya later, president shitstain.

Republicans: what more does it take to admit that your lower primate hero is a criminal piece of shit and that every one of you that voted for him are an individual threat to this country?
 

Grooveriding

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There will be no further White House comments about Trumps wiretap claim against Obama according to spicer tweets.

Trump tweets a bizarre infowars conspiracy theory. To prevent the embarrassment of walking it back, something that has already happened before with other conspiracy theories he put forward, they shift responsibility to the Congress to investigate an infowars conspiracy theory ?

If they actually investigate what amounts to your usual alt-right, jpeg sourced, twitter spread conspiracy idiocy - while they've been dragging their heels on the evidenced based Russia situation - you'll know America has officially sunk into political shithole territory. Trump should be getting removed for having mental issues and he's calling for an investigation to avoid taking responsibility on spreading a crazed conspiracy theory to try and cover up the corruption in his administration.

I don't even see the logic in it. Trump's fanatical support base don't care about any of his corruption and Russian ties, they'll support him regardless. He doesn't need to push forward conspiracy theories for them. The people who are not fanatically behind him will not be distracted or care about this noise, it's just more of the same unhinged madness that everyone has come to expect of him.

Twitter should be approached and pressured to close down his personal account. There could possibly be a case to be made of him using the account for harassment by making accusations not based on fact of criminal activity against other people. When children act out and behave inappropriately, throwing a tantrum, you hold them accountable so they understand that behaviour is not acceptable. Trump needs to be held to account rather than continue to be a POS coward every time he throws a fit.
 

Fenixgoon

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Request that thread title be renamed to "Trump baselessly claims that he's been wiretapped" or similar. The question-mark route is a bullshit tactic to make a dubious statement look legitimate.

That aside - how literally everyone in the USG outside of trump's immediate cabinet/advisory is not vehemently denouncing this is beyond me. This is so asinine, so baseless, so undignified, I don't see how anyone could possibly support trump from an objective point of view.
 
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Thebobo

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Breaking news Trumps an Idiot!

No seriously - Man what a whirlwind

Comey Asks Justice Dept. to Reject Trump’s Wiretapping Claim

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/...allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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I want a vigorous investigation and I think Trump is entitled to have his claims examined including those making allegations.

That should be fun.
 

mxnerd

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There will be no further White House comments about Trumps wiretap claim against Obama according to spicer tweets.

Trump can't get anything done since he became POTUS, so he tries to deflect people's attention by throwing random & baseless accusations upon prior administration and see what sticks.

Neither Trump nor Spicer are able to comment further because they have no evidence at all!
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Breaking news Trumps an Idiot!

No seriously - Man what a whirlwind

Comey Asks Justice Dept. to Reject Trump’s Wiretapping Claim

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/...allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html


Can't be. Comey is evil Trump supporter!

This is getting funnier by the moment.
 

theeedude

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Trump has the authority to declassify relevant FISA court order and transcripts of the recordings.
Instead he is either pulling information out of his behind or leaking still classified intelligence.
 

jackstar7

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I'm starting to think the Trump-Russia connection is serious if this nonsense is what he tweet-tantrums about...
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Trump has the authority to declassify relevant FISA court order and transcripts of the recordings.
Instead he is either pulling information out of his behind or leaking still classified intelligence.


I suspect this is another "Last night's terrorism is Sweden" thing. He heard something somewhere and he'll use it as fact like all those Muslims dancing he saw on 9/11. This is a great opportunity to use against him. He wants an investigation? Fine. Subpoena his sources to expose this evil plot!

Laughs will be had.
 

umbrella39

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And yet Congress has already announced that it will investigate claims.

LoL. see ya later, president shitstain.

Republicans: what more does it take to admit that your lower primate hero is a criminal piece of shit and that every one of you that voted for him are an individual threat to this country?
Totally agree. At this point they are all quickly becoming enemies of the state. Good for them and good for the rest of us. The funny thing is that when THEY come to start tattooing arms and start hauling people away to internment camp, it's not going to be the evil brown people or liberals that get plucked from society.
 

Balt

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Breaking news Trumps an Idiot!

No seriously - Man what a whirlwind

Comey Asks Justice Dept. to Reject Trump’s Wiretapping Claim

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/...allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html

inb4 Trump publicly accuses Comey on Twitter of personally leaking everything derogatory about the administration.

I guess the real question is whether there's anyone at the DoJ who is willing to get the Sally Yates treatment by releasing such a statement.
 

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Hmmm...

In January Deutsche Bank was fined "$630m for failing to prevent $10 billion of Russian money laundering and exposing the UK financial system to the risk of financial crime." This involved Deutsche Bank offices in New York, Moscow, and... Cyprus. Involved in this scheme were close relatives and longtime friends of Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ined-630m-over-russia-money-laundering-claims

When the Deutsche Bank CEO during this scandal, Josef Ackermann, was forced out, he landed as the new chairman of the Bank of Cyprus. Among the major investors in the Bank of Cyprus are "Viktor Vekselberg, a longtime ally of the Russian president, and Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, the former vice-chairman of Bank of Cyprus who is also a former KGB agent with a close relationship to Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/27/commerce-nominee-wilbur-ross-bank-of-cyprus-putin

It should be noted that Cyprus is considered the Cayman Islands of Russian oligarchs.

Another of the major shareholders in the bank is Dmitry Rybolovlev, aka "The King of Fertilizer," one of the richest men in Russia and known world wide for having maybe the most expensive divorce in modern history. During the divorce he was accused by his wife of "secreting and transferring assets in order to avoid his obligations." Basically, he bought a bunch of stuff - real estate, mostly, but in ways that his wife couldn't claim them in the divorce. One of these properties was the most expensive condos in New York, an $88m 10 room apartment overlooking Central Park, which he bought under his daughters name, who was a college student at the time.

But another property he bought, a mansion in Florida, "The House of Friendship," from our President Donald Trump in 2008. This mansion was built in 2001 by a crazy billionaire, who went bankrupt in 2004. Trump bought it at auction for $40 million in 2006. It sat empty for two years, rotting. Nobody wanted it, it wasn't desirable, etc. In 2008, Rybolovlev, during his divorce, needing somewhere to park his money so his wife couldn't get access to it, bought this mansion from Trump for $100 million. In cash. That's two and a half times what Trump bought it for, with no improvements to the structure. Reporters suggest Rybolovlev has never set foot on the property since the sale. Also, both he and Trump have both claimed, many times, that they never met, and only worked through intermediaries. This was the largest price paid for a single American house, ever, during the financial meltdown, and they never met, once, to discuss the details.

So..How did they meet? Why did the "King of Fertilizer" basically give Trump $60 million? Who were the intermediaries? Remember the Bank of Cyprus, where Rybolovlev is a major shareholder? The vice-chairman of this bank, who otherwise has almost no background in international finance, is none other than longtime friend of Donald Trump AND our new Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross. So Trump makes almost $60 million, for doing almost nothing, by selling to a Russian shareholder of a bank run by friends of Putin's and stuffed with the ill-gotten fortunes of Russian oligarchs, where his longtime friend happens to be a vice-chairman. And that vice-chairman is now our Commerce Secretary. Oh, also, Deutsche Bank, the one that just paid a $630 million fine for laundering Russian money, is somehow, the largest creditor to the Trump organization. When Trump got this $60 million windfall from an Russian investor he never met, he was struggling to pay back $40 million in loans to... Deutsche bank. Hmmm...Nice timing!
 
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Thebobo

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Hmmm...

In January Deutsche Bank was fined "$630m for failing to prevent $10 billion of Russian money laundering and exposing the UK financial system to the risk of financial crime." This involved Deutsche Bank offices in New York, Moscow, and... Cyprus. Involved in this scheme were close relatives and longtime friends of Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ined-630m-over-russia-money-laundering-claims

When the Deutsche Bank CEO during this scandal, Josef Ackermann, was forced out, he landed as the new chairman of the Bank of Cyprus. Among the major investors in the Bank of Cyprus are "Viktor Vekselberg, a longtime ally of the Russian president, and Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, the former vice-chairman of Bank of Cyprus who is also a former KGB agent with a close relationship to Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/27/commerce-nominee-wilbur-ross-bank-of-cyprus-putin

It should be noted that Cyprus is considered the Cayman Islands of Russian oligarchs.

Another of the major shareholders in the bank is Dmitry Rybolovlev, aka "The King of Fertilizer," one of the richest men in Russia and known world wide for having maybe the most expensive divorce in modern history. During the divorce he was accused by his wife of "secreting and transferring assets in order to avoid his obligations." Basically, he bought a bunch of stuff - real estate, mostly, but in ways that his wife couldn't claim them in the divorce. One of these properties was the most expensive condos in New York, an $88m 10 room apartment overlooking Central Park, which he bought under his daughters name, who was a college student at the time.

But another property he bought, a mansion in Florida, "The House of Friendship," from our President Donald Trump in 2008. This mansion was built in 2001 by a crazy billionaire, who went bankrupt in 2004. Trump bought it at auction for $40 million in 2006. It sat empty for two years, rotting. Nobody wanted it, it wasn't desirable, etc. In 2008, Rybolovlev, during his divorce, needing somewhere to park his money so his wife couldn't get access to it, bought this mansion from Trump for $100 million. In cash. That's two and a half times what Trump bought it for, with no improvements to the structure. Reporters suggest Rybolovlev has never set foot on the property since the sale. Also, both he and Trump have both claimed, many times, that they never met, and only worked through intermediaries. This was the largest price paid for a single American house, ever, during the financial meltdown, and they never met, once, to discuss the details.

So..How did they meet? Why did the "King of Fertilizer" basically give Trump $60 million? Who were the intermediaries? Remember the Bank of Cyprus, where Rybolovlev is a major shareholder? The vice-chairman of this bank, who otherwise has almost no background in international finance, is none other than longtime friend of Donald Trump AND our new Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross. So Trump makes almost $60 million, for doing almost nothing, by selling to a Russian shareholder of a bank run by friends of Putin's and stuffed with the ill-gotten fortunes of Russian oligarchs, where his longtime friend happens to be a vice-chairman. And that vice-chairman is now our Commerce Secretary. Oh, also, Deutsche Bank, the one that just paid a $630 million fine for laundering Russian money, is somehow, the largest creditor to the Trump organization. When Trump got this $60 million windfall from an Russian investor he never met, he was struggling to pay back $40 million in loans to... Deutsche bank. Hmmm...Nice timing!

Rachel Maddow has been covering all of this in great detail. As you say Mr Fertilizer bought a 40 million dollar estate for 100 million from trump. Money Laundering anyone?
 
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Hmmm...

In January Deutsche Bank was fined "$630m for failing to prevent $10 billion of Russian money laundering and exposing the UK financial system to the risk of financial crime." This involved Deutsche Bank offices in New York, Moscow, and... Cyprus. Involved in this scheme were close relatives and longtime friends of Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ined-630m-over-russia-money-laundering-claims

When the Deutsche Bank CEO during this scandal, Josef Ackermann, was forced out, he landed as the new chairman of the Bank of Cyprus. Among the major investors in the Bank of Cyprus are "Viktor Vekselberg, a longtime ally of the Russian president, and Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, the former vice-chairman of Bank of Cyprus who is also a former KGB agent with a close relationship to Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/27/commerce-nominee-wilbur-ross-bank-of-cyprus-putin

It should be noted that Cyprus is considered the Cayman Islands of Russian oligarchs.

Another of the major shareholders in the bank is Dmitry Rybolovlev, aka "The King of Fertilizer," one of the richest men in Russia and known world wide for having maybe the most expensive divorce in modern history. During the divorce he was accused by his wife of "secreting and transferring assets in order to avoid his obligations." Basically, he bought a bunch of stuff - real estate, mostly, but in ways that his wife couldn't claim them in the divorce. One of these properties was the most expensive condos in New York, an $88m 10 room apartment overlooking Central Park, which he bought under his daughters name, who was a college student at the time.

But another property he bought, a mansion in Florida, "The House of Friendship," from our President Donald Trump in 2008. This mansion was built in 2001 by a crazy billionaire, who went bankrupt in 2004. Trump bought it at auction for $40 million in 2006. It sat empty for two years, rotting. Nobody wanted it, it wasn't desirable, etc. In 2008, Rybolovlev, during his divorce, needing somewhere to park his money so his wife couldn't get access to it, bought this mansion from Trump for $100 million. In cash. That's two and a half times what Trump bought it for, with no improvements to the structure. Reporters suggest Rybolovlev has never set foot on the property since the sale. Also, both he and Trump have both claimed, many times, that they never met, and only worked through intermediaries. This was the largest price paid for a single American house, ever, during the financial meltdown, and they never met, once, to discuss the details.

So..How did they meet? Why did the "King of Fertilizer" basically give Trump $60 million? Who were the intermediaries? Remember the Bank of Cyprus, where Rybolovlev is a major shareholder? The vice-chairman of this bank, who otherwise has almost no background in international finance, is none other than longtime friend of Donald Trump AND our new Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross. So Trump makes almost $60 million, for doing almost nothing, by selling to a Russian shareholder of a bank run by friends of Putin's and stuffed with the ill-gotten fortunes of Russian oligarchs, where his longtime friend happens to be a vice-chairman. And that vice-chairman is now our Commerce Secretary. Oh, also, Deutsche Bank, the one that just paid a $630 million fine for laundering Russian money, is somehow, the largest creditor to the Trump organization. When Trump got this $60 million windfall from an Russian investor he never met, he was struggling to pay back $40 million in loans to... Deutsche bank. Hmmm...Nice timing!

dude, you need an infograph or photo series with arrows and big caricature pictures. Illiterate republicans and alt-righters can't follow connections unless it is all in pictures. Reading and real facts are too hard.
 

VRAMdemon

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dude, you need an infograph or photo series with arrows and big caricature pictures. Illiterate republicans and alt-righters can't follow connections unless it is all in pictures. Reading and real facts are too hard.

Lol...here's one...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...team-trump-and-russia/?utm_term=.d142b907e841

It tries to summarize and lay out all the connections between Trump's circle and Putin, Kislyak, and Russian business. The Post says it's a "work in progress" and will be updated as they get more information. Kislyak looks like they called down to Central Casting for a "Russian bureaucrat type". A stereotypical Russian ambassador; a Southern politician named Jeff Sessions; a mentally unstable US Army General; billionaires running the government for personal gain; and all topped off by a venal President. Looks like the worst spy movie ever.
 
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fskimospy

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So now the FBI is coming out and asking to disavow this bullshit. So now we have the federal bureaucracy trying to debunk right wing conspiracy theories being propagated by the president over social media.

This guy's mental illness is doing severe damage to our basic system of governance. Again, at what point do conservatives recognize they fucked up?
 

Jhhnn

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So now the FBI is coming out and asking to disavow this bullshit. So now we have the federal bureaucracy trying to debunk right wing conspiracy theories being propagated by the president over social media.

This guy's mental illness is doing severe damage to our basic system of governance. Again, at what point do conservatives recognize they fucked up?

Too proud. Too stubborn. Too much into their usual denial. Too much in love with their Freedumb. Too well indoctrinated about the evil Democrats to turn on the Jerb Creators & their trickle down ideology.

It's also too soon to expect anything else. They're still all smug about liberal tears. We'll probably all have a good cry together before it's over.
 
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