Throckmorton
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Are you saying that I'm ignorant of the "fact" that blacks are, unlike Jews, deserving of being treated like animals, ghettoized, terrorized, and executed? Oppressing one group of people is as bad as oppressing any other. Boo hoo, I'm politically incorrect!!!
I am saying you are ignorant if you think 1950's America was as bad or worse than Nazi Germany. 1950's America had serious race issues. But it was nowhere near what happend under the Nazi's.
Throckmorton
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If you were a black man being beaten you'd say it was just as bad.
Serious race issues? Give me a break, I'm sick of that politically correct gobbledygook. Southern whites were committing crimes against humanity daily, whether by burning churches and beating blacks, or by standing by and doing nothing. The only thing missing was large scale genocide, but remember that didn't come until later in Nazi Germany.
Hayabusa Rider
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Have to agree with this. Were blacks abused? Of course. Could an analogy be made between Nazi mentality and how blacks were treated because they were "inferior"? Yes.
Now show us the several million bodies from death camps for blacks. You can't. Analogy is one thing, exaggeration is another.
Is that it? Have you read history at all?
What happened in this country was terrible, an abomination, no getting around that. But Nazi Germany it wasnt.
Throckmorton
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And what about the Nazi Germany that existed before concentration camps started executing Jews?
Ever heard of Angola?
Hayabusa Rider
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Germany allowed the Nazis to progress to death camps. America did not. We didn't allow it. We changed our direction from within. Germany did not. They were bombed out of it. That's the difference.
Now I've heard of Angola. A former Portuguese colony in Africa, which wasn't in the US in the 1950's
You do realize Dachau was opened in March of 1933 just a few days after the consolidation of power by the Nazi's in late Feb 33 right? It housed political prisoners and jews. They didnt waste any time.
Yes, it's unfortunate that people who weren't born within 20 years of the 50's think the 50's were that bad. Racist? Absolutely. Mildly repressive? Yes. Stupid conformity? Check. Anti-Communist hysteria. Yup, gotcha' there. Six million blacks gassed? Uh, I don't think so.
Here's a rule of thumb for the left and the right, but mostly for the left. NEVER MENTION NAZI GERMANY IN A SENTENCE, unless you are absolutely sure it's relevant. As soon as I see the word Nazi, I know the poster has lost rational thought. You utterly destroy your argument by using the word Nazi. Of course, you don't get the juvenile adrenaline rush from watching your loyal opposition crumble in fear.
Uh, right....-Robert
Red Dawn
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Would Elvis have been able to exist if America was like Nazi Germany?Originally posted by: chess9
Yes, it's unfortunate that people who weren't born within 20 years of the 50's think the 50's were that bad. Racist? Absolutely. Mildly repressive? Yes. Stupid conformity? Check. Anti-Communist hysteria. Yup, gotcha' there. Six million blacks gassed? Uh, I don't think so.
Here's a rule of thumb for the left and the right, but mostly for the left. NEVER MENTION NAZI GERMANY IN A SENTENCE, unless you are absolutely sure it's relevant. As soon as I see the word Nazi, I know the poster has lost rational thought. You utterly destroy your argument by using the word Nazi. Of course, you don't get the juvenile adrenaline rush from watching your loyal opposition crumble in fear.
-Robert
Throckmorton
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Yes, thank goodness liberals and true statesmen forced America out of the right-wing abyss. You're welcome.
Angola is a prison that was probably as bad as a Nazi work camp in the 50s. To this day, prisoners are used as slave labor
HomerJS
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If people think outside the box for a monment and put yourself in the mind of blacks in the 50s, why would you not think America was facist?
BTW - Comparisions to Nazi Germany are made all the time. How many of you people call Ahmadinejad another Hitler. I don't believe he has killed 6 million people.
BTW - Comparisions to Nazi Germany are made all the time. How many of you people call Ahmadinejad another Hitler. I don't believe he has killed 6 million people.
retrospooty
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Of course we do... charachter is exactly why Obama is winning, he has it and tons of it... regardless of how many idiotic things you come up with to try and destroy it. Obama's charachter (and Bush's total incompetance) is what will win this election.
retrospooty
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They wont understand that anymore than they wont understand why rev. Wright is angry at the USA... Its not that he hates it, its that he is angry and disappointed (and living in the past).
1865-1960: African-Americans went from slavery to harsh racism and an unforgiving and brutal judicial system. But, to you, it was never as bad as Nazism, correct? You wouldn't know shit about either one. I think it's better to as a black person and a Jewish person who lived in both time periods. I doubt you would understand their fears, terrorism, and racism faced by each group.
To be honest, the main difference between the two was the time period, which is why the Nazi system failed to endour. If they were smart and had not been so aggressive in their policies and dreams their reich may have lasted over a hundred years, instead of being concentrated in 12. You also fail to remember that this endemic racism was all across the Western-world.
Was it as bad? It depends on who you ask. As a non-Jewish non-homosexual German living at the time if their life was bad and they would probably say no.
But that isnt what we are arguing. On an individual basis everybody has their own experiences. What we are arguing is the systematic approach of the Nazi's. Did we approach such a level in this country?
Not even close.
cKGunslinger
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$750B bailout leading to partial Nationalization of our banks
$300B plan for the government to buy-back private mortgages.
Woo-hoo for our small government, free-market, Conservative! :roll:
Sorry, but they are both "Big Government Liberals."
We can only dream .....
Here-Here!! That always works well in determining who is truly Pro-America .... and since the KKK is clearly a Pro-America institution that needed no investigation in the '30s, '40s and '50s, lynchings by the thousands were necessary to weed-out those anti-American darkies when the justice system failed the pro-America white people.
Plessy v. Ferguson most certainly got it right ..... :disgust:
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