No, but you are certainly ignorant. Maybe you should ask a white German citizen of the Nazi era if things were bad for them. I'm willing to bet that they would say everything was peachy, save for the war.
No, but you are certainly ignorant. Maybe you should ask a white German citizen of the Nazi era if things were bad for them. I'm willing to bet that they would say everything was peachy, save for the war.
Except that whole freedom of speech, press, police state thing. Hope to god your neighbors didnt turn you into the Gestapo or be labeled a jew sympathizer or communist or enemy of the state. The list can go and on.
Dont toss stones in a glass house mmkay?
He did a fantastic job in Somalia and with AQ, though :thumbsup: . Not to mention the mortgage crisis. The man himself admits his role in it.
Regardless, I was responding to the perceived economic prosperity of the 90's that I presumed senseamp was talking about.
Have you seen the documentaries about the Nazi era when people said they were oblivious to what was really happening to the Jews? And don't try to confuse American rights with European rights. They are not the same.
Did they have to for it to happen and there was no justice? Did you know that the only time a white person has ever been convicted for lynching a black man was for the last lynching in 1981?
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"Racial tension" is a blatant sugarcoating. That's much worse than any exaggeration the other way
The point I was making is that the general population never saw it as their problem and saw the Jews as being different from them. So, for the general population, everything was fine.
Oblivious to the concentration camps? Possible they didnt know the extent of the carnage. But what does denying knowing a thing about concentration camps and the extent of the Nazi regimes attempts at racial purity have to do with what I wrote?
You think everything was peachy living under the Nazi's if you were white? Lots of whites went into the camps and never came back. In fact I am willing to bet you 100 bucks the Nazi's killed many many many more whites than they did other races in their quest for a racially pure state. They afterall implemented their policies in Europe and the Soviet Union. Not Asia, Africa, or South America. And yes they happily sent many white germans to their death for the cause as well.
What an absolutely confused argument you propose.
You are the one that's clearly confused, equating all whites with white Germans. The Nazis felt their Nordic race was superior to all others, including other whites. My point was that the general german population did not know the extent to the terror happening in their own country. Worse, they never saw it as their problem because the propaganda machine kept telling them how great they were. For Jews, it was pure terror.
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Personally, the comparison makes me uncomfortable. I'd rather Nazi Germany be a monolithic example of nationalist evil for the world to behold for all time - not to be watered down by thin comparisons to other eras of oppression and murder that don't equate in size and scope.
However I don't think that you need wait for a government systematically exterminating millions to learn from Nazi Germany - one can examine modern trends with an understanding of human nature gleaned from history. Those lessons translate VERY well to modern American politics and propaganda - and I'm not equating Bush with Hitler when I say that. I'm saying that the tactics are shockingly similar, and every citizen has a responsibility to understand those tactics and how they are being manipulated. Using propaganda to encourage an "us vs. them" mentality that is backed by nationalism and even religious ethnocentrism is a very very dangerous game that will ultimately lead to ruin. Now THAT is a point worth tireless examination, not these sensationalist comparisons made by both sides on a regular basis.
That isnt what you wrote, you wrote their lives were peachy under Nazi rule which is a bunch of ignorant blissful thinking. Your implication of course is whites had it good under Nazi rule which is also more ignorant blissful thinking.
I dont need a highschool level lecture on the Nazi's. I know what their goals were and how they were trying to achieve them.
This thread, stupid from the first post, has brought out so much more stupidity it's hard to imagine. Instead of just saying the OP was wrong by suggesting Obama thought the the American 1950s were as bad as Nazi Germany, so many completely assed-up fools took a turn into la-la land with historically absurd comparison claims that the US in the 1950s was as bad as Nazi Germany. Wow... talk about overshadowing the ignorance of the OP.
As racially bad and divided as the US was in the 50s, particularly in the South, any rational person knows it bears no comparison to the most evil regime in modern history. And although some turds want to act like my claiming there's no comparison somehow means I'm ignoring the plight of Blacks in the 50s, all that really shows is a callous dishonesty... on top of their stupidity.
Yeah, that's it... it doesn't count :roll: Superb logic.
The anti-communist fervor and racism of the 50s had a lot in common with fascism. The Nazis were fascists. Thus, some of our policies (many of which were unconstitutional) were similar to the ones adopted by Nazi Germany.
He didn't say we were identical to the Nazis. He didn't say we were rounding up blacks and keeping them in internment camps (we did that to the Japanese). He didn't say we were committing mass genocide. The pundits on this board seem to be very confused.
If you're oblivious to some of the fascist policies we adopted in the 50s, then you need to brush up on your history. It's as simple as that.
Edit: You don't need to commit mass genocide for a Nazi comparison to be fair. The Nazis were fascists. It's fair game to compare fascist policies to fascist policies.
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