It is also legal for a police officer to constantly follow you around. Would that make you feel uncomfortable, even though you dont do anything illegal?
Just because you can does not mean you should.
This forum would drop a load in its pants if this was Bush.
Hilarious listening to those on the right acting like they have never heard of their previous mantra "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.".
But this is a complete non-issue. They are collecting what amounts to "public utterances" which are not private.
This is unlike the Bush programs that collected conversations that had a reasonable expectation of privacy. Their is no comparison of the two whatsoever.
But this is a complete non-issue. They are collecting what amounts to "public utterances" which are not private.
This is unlike the Bush programs that collected conversations that had a reasonable expectation of privacy. Their is no comparison of the two whatsoever.
Siddhartha
Lifer
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It is publically available information.
Is it really disturbing, though? What is the purpose behind this collection process? You seem to assume it must be nefarious by default, what if it's for scientific research purposes?
Archaeologists have uncovered many communications from ancient times, clay tablets, scrolls and whatnot. However today, more and more information is moving to a purely digital format, and as such is a lot more volatile than in the past. If all this stuff is not archived somehow it runs the risk of becoming permanently lost, for example should the company running the websites and whatnot go bankrupt, or if the storage medium that houses this information becomes technically obsolete (this is already a growing problem I might add).
There's a definitive risk of us creating a gigantic hole in our own written history...
That's not really the case here though now is it!
Bush instituted illegal filtering and surveillance of all information passing through certain internet and telephone network data center hubs, blocked lawsuits filed over this conduct, and then ran retroactive pardons for the involved parties through congress at turbo speed.
This is completely legal and benign in comparison.
I'm amazed the memory of certain people is so selective, and short...
It's actually not legal for a police officer to constantly follow you around. Well I guess he could, but any evidence he collected would be instantly thrown out of court.
Did you object to the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping of phone calls?
This is information published to public websites, open communication to the world, just like posts to this forum. Anyone can harvest information from places like that and many corporations do.
The GOP is probably paying research firms to do it right now.
They already do, didn't hear you crowing about the wiretapping program, that's way more egregious than anything about this.
Those are private conversations/electronic exchanges, these aren't.
Where were you when the mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers and general incompetents were REALLY shredding the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under our once honored, once valued Consitution? :roll:
No, it's NOT legal for police officers to constantly follow you around without demonstrable cause. That's called police harrassment and abuse of authority.
It WAS Bush, and we DID drop plenty of loads over it, and all the idiot Bushwhacko sheeple just fell in line and dismissed it. Of course, all they were doing was:
- Pimping their war in Iraq that, as of 9/14/09 has killed 4,344 American troops and left tens of thousands more wounded, scarred and disabled for life and LYING about it.
- Committing torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity and LYING about it.
- Illegally spying on American citizens and LYING about it.
TastesLikeChicken
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A police officer can't follow you around without cause. That would fall under stalking and/or harassment.
MovingTarget
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This is a non-issue. You do not have any expectation of privacy when you post in a public forum. They aren't eavesdropping on any private communications here, much less doing so illegally.
The author is an idiot if he does not realize this.
The author is an idiot if he does not realize this.
Hayabusa Rider
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Any correspondence that the Administration receives must be archived. That's the law. If the White House was crawling the web and archiving comments NOT sent to them to store in a data base, then I would have a fit.
I'm not having a fit.
I'm not having a fit.
I notice all the Obama-attackers stopped posting in this thread as soon as Bush Jr's illegal warrant-less wiretapping was brought up.
How pathetic. The hypocrisy apparantly knows no bounds in the conservative camp.
How pathetic. The hypocrisy apparantly knows no bounds in the conservative camp.
sandorski
No Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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"This Forum", who? Seems to me many are dropping a load right now.
Seems weird to me that many people who regularly post in P&N act like they are some kind of Outsider and that everyone else posts in the exact same manner that is completely opposite of what they do.
That's some kind of Mental disconnect right there.
BeauJangles
Lifer
- Aug 26, 2001
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:thumbsup:
The article is unclear, but it seems like they're storing comments made on THEIR pages on Facebook, Twitter, etc. I believe that Hayabusa Rider is correct and that they are compelled by law to do this.
MrColin
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If you had read the terms you agreed to when you signed up for a facebook account, you would be aware that not only does FB keep all your info, even if you "delete" it. They can also gather info from other sources about you and pretty much sell it or use it any way that they want. Furthermore, a sizeable amount of their start up funding came from individuals, and front organizations of the US intelligence community. This predates Obama by several years but it is really bad now because he's black I guess.
A brief explanation:video
A brief explanation:video
It could be a little tricky though. If it's their page ON twitter/facebook then technically the data belongs to those sites so I can see it being a little touchy if they are archiving stuff from twitter/facebook sites. If it's on white house servers then no big deal, if it's on somebody else's I could see a concern.
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It looks like their mining and collecting information from the whitehouse's social network sites. That doesn't sit well with me.
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