NVIDIA Volta Rumor Thread

[Arachnotronic]

Sweepr, who is a master of finding leaks on Baidu, recently found a treasure trove of leaks about NVIDIA's next-gen GPU arch called Volta. I am quoting and linking his post to get this discussion started.

Prepare for new round of NVIDIA Volta rumors/leaks (from Baidu):

- The changes in Volta are significant, different SM structure - more than the Kepler/Maxwell transition
- Performance per watt improves at the same process (even if the process won't change)
- A Volta GPU at the same level of single-precision will deliver better graphics performance than the equivalent Pascal GPU
- ~1.5x the single-precision floating-point performance at equal TDPs (Volta vs Pascal)
- GDDR6 enters mass production in late 2017, GV104 is the first GPU for consumers (expect a 2018 launch)
- GV100 with HBM2 could still hit the market this year
- Geforce GTX 1080 Ti to be announced around March 10th
- Source is not sure about Geforce GTX 1080 Ti's exact specifications, but expects this: 3328 SPs, 96 ROPs, 12GB GDDR5 384-bit

More to come later.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/nvidia-pascal-thread.2463869/page-175#post-38732785

 

[Carfax83]

I hope Volta is the first GPU capable of mastering 4K in single GPU config; and by master I mean 60 FPS with all the bells and whistles, or nearly all of them. Pascal was a disappointment in that regard, and is why I have delayed the move to a 4K monitor.

 

[ddogg]

I hope Volta is the first GPU capable of mastering 4K in single GPU config; and by master I mean 60 FPS with all the bells and whistles, or nearly all of them. Pascal was a disappointment in that regard, and is why I have delayed the move to a 4K monitor.

You mean master 4k and not cost $1200 because the Titan XP can do 4k/60fps with practically all the bells and whistles turned on. I think if Volta is 20-30% more powerful than the Titan XP it should be able to do it comfortably.

 

[Lectured Weasel]

I hope Volta is the first GPU capable of mastering 4K in single GPU config; and by master I mean 60 FPS with all the bells and whistles, or nearly all of them. Pascal was a disappointment in that regard, and is why I have delayed the move to a 4K monitor.

I already have and GTX 980 4g and running an 40" philips at 4K/60Hz with no problems at all, it is mandatory to use Dp 1.2 for that but the card has three of them

http://imgur.com/a/Qb40F

 

[Arachnotronic]

You mean master 4k and not cost $1200 because the Titan XP can do 4k/60fps with practically all the bells and whistles turned on. I think if Volta is 20-30% more powerful than the Titan XP it should be able to do it comfortably.

Titan XP really needs to be overclocked to "master" 4k/60.

 

[AdamK47]

Want

 

[ddogg]

My 1080 SLI setup easily does 4k/60 with everything maxed out in games with good/great SLI scaling. However, I think I'm going back to a single GPU solution next time as it sucks when a game doesn't support dual cards. I'm hoping x80 Volta is a fair deal more powerful than the Titan XP.

 

[Head1985]

I hope Volta is the first GPU capable of mastering 4K in single GPU config; and by master I mean 60 FPS with all the bells and whistles, or nearly all of them. Pascal was a disappointment in that regard, and is why I have delayed the move to a 4K monitor.

First volta will be mid-range GV104 GPU around 10% faster than TITANXP and probably max OC TITANXP at 2.1Ghz will be faster/or same performance as max oc mid-range gv104.
Big volta in 2019 50-60% faster than TITANXP, but that is so far away..

 

[Carfax83]

I already have and GTX 980 4g and running an 40" philips at 4K/60Hz with no problems at all, it is mandatory to use Dp 1.2 for that but the card has three of them

http://imgur.com/a/Qb40F

I meant for gaming purposes. 4K has proven to be a very difficult nut to crack when it comes to gaming, without the use of SLI..

 

[Carfax83]

Titan XP really needs to be overclocked to "master" 4k/60.

Exactly. And in some shader and compute heavy games, overclocking still isn't enough to put you over the hump. For example, the Witcher 3 at 4K you probably need to turn off HW and reduce shadows to high to run at a constant 60 FPS.

 

[Carfax83]

First volta will be mid-range GV104 GPU around 10% faster than TITANXP and probably max OC TITANXP at 2.1Ghz will be faster/or same performance as max oc mid-range gv104.
Big volta in 2019 50-60% faster than TITANXP, but that is so far away..

If big Volta could guarantee 4K/60 FPS in the Witcher 3 with HW enabled and everything else ultra without having to overclock it, then I would spend the money to get it..

 

[Sweepr]

First volta will be mid-range GV104 GPU around 10% faster than TITANXP and probably max OC TITANXP at 2.1Ghz will be faster/or same performance as max oc mid-range gv104.
Big volta in 2019 50-60% faster than TITANXP, but that is so far away..

Nonsense. Quadro P6000 (full GP102) is already >15% faster than Titan X (Pascal) and it's rated at ~11.5 TFLOPs. If the Baidu source is correct, Volta is not only faster 'per flop' but GV104 is also expected to hit ~13.5 TFLOPs. And who said big Volta is 2019?

 

[Qwertilot]

Well 'really big' Volta isn't so far away for super computers, data center stuff etc but that's a much more competitive/time critical market than consumer cards nowadays. Can cope with really expensive early production too.

Presume we'll get consumer GV104 first, in which case it'll almost certainly be given 6+ months as top card. 2019 for non Titan consumer GV102 seems pretty plausible really.

 

[Glo.]

It appears that Nvidia will "reuse, sort of" GP100 chip architecture. Compute and SM structure from GP100 chips, with enhanced graphical capabilities for GV1XX chips on "12" nm node.

Don't expect however only 3840 CUDA cores. Expect... higher number. Up to 5120 CC's. The design will be also without FP64, so there will be a lot of room for each core, and the GPU will be around 600mm2 in die size.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It appears that Nvidia will "reuse, sort of" GP100 chip architecture. Compute and SM structure from GP100 chips, with enhanced graphical capabilities for GV1XX chips on "12" nm node.

No.

Don't expect however only 3840 CUDA cores. Expect... higher number. Up to 5120 CC's. The design will be also without FP64, so there will be a lot of room for each core, and the GPU will be around 600mm2 in die size.

GV104 won't be 600mm^2 in size.

 

[Glo.]

No.



GV104 won't be 600mm^2 in size.

GV102 will be 600mm2. Or just slightly below this.

 

[jpiniero]

GV102 will be 600mm2. Or just slightly below this.

I guess it depends on how much 12 nm shrinks the die, but I would think nVidia will try to keep it similar in die size to GP102 (~470 mm2).

 

[Qwertilot]

Not sure. If they have got quite a bit more efficient in power terms (likely), then it would be very logical indeed for them to up the size of the chip at the same time. We'll find out.

 

[nvgpu]

https://twitter.com/AIDA64_Official/status/833757338196643840

 

[nvgpu]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170313PB201.html

TSMC will fabricate Nvidia's next generation Volta GPU using a 12nm process, said the paper, which added that the Volta GPU will be paired with Nvidia's Xavier supercomputer chips for self-driving car applications.

 

[Aristotelian]

Judging by Nvidia's recent release patterns, should we expect the successor to the 1080 (2080 or 1180 or whatever) like this?

980 - 18 September 2014
1080 - 27 May 2016
1180/2080 - January 2018?

If sticking to the cadence of the 980-1080 transition this seems about right.

On the other hand:

900 Series Titan - March 17 2015
1000 Series Titan - August 2 2016.

So a bit over a year from Titan to Titan but for the X80 series it seems to take a bit less than two years?

I'm not expecting the Volta Series Titan late 2017 but, yeah, I'd be pleasantly surprised...

 

[moonbogg]

Volta can't come soon enough. This 1080ti is getting long in the tooth.

 

[Headfoot]

Volta can't come soon enough. This 1080ti is getting long in the tooth.

TIM's already cured. Well past its useful lifespan. Dont even get me started on no-cure paste...

 

[Aristotelian]

Here I was hoping for a useful post or two boys If the Titan Volta comes out when the Asus 4k HDR monitor does, sign me up for two.

 

[Muadib]

Here I was hoping for a useful post or two boys If the Titan Volta comes out when the Asus 4k HDR monitor does, sign me up for two.

Do you know the model of the Asus monitor?

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