[Nvidia] The Witcher 3: Is your system ready - Nvidia official system requirements

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3DVagabond

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Disable hairworks in the settings, VOILA! All the value-added features are just that, value-added. If they don't run well, don't use 'em.

What you are saying only makes sense if he wasn't paying the same price. Those aren't value added anything. They are an integral part of the product that everyone is being charged the same for.
 

lehtv

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Also, for Witcher 3, they did downgrade it, but the question is why not include an optional download for PC users, ala Shadow of Mordor's 4K texture pack. All they need are sliders + ultra texture options and boom, game is back to PC quality that absolutely crushes current GPUs.

Wait for Enhanced Edition money grab ;)
 

boozzer

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one thing about cdpr is they never charge for EE versions of their games. but they already have a dlc/expac announced for 25$ I for one would gladly pay for it if it brings back the graphics from 2013. it would be worth it. otherwise, bargain bin prices it is.
 

Annisman*

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I don't understand people saying that they will wait for this game in the bargain bin, I can't see how this won't be one of the best RPG experiences in the past 5 years regardless of graphics at launch.
 

boozzer

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I don't understand people saying that they will wait for this game in the bargain bin, I can't see how this won't be one of the best RPG experiences in the past 5 years regardless of graphics at launch.
we are pissed and the only way to punish cdpr is through our wallet. and it is also the only way they will care. I could have bought a nv romo code from ebay and save 30$ but I bought it on gog to make sure they get the most money from my purchase. I would never do that again, ever.
 

RussianSensation

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we are pissed and the only way to punish cdpr is through our wallet.

In this case you would take 1 step forward, 2 steps back. You'd punish CDPR from not making a technical masterpiece, but you'd also send a signal to the industry that single player open world RPGs with 100+ hours of storyline aren't worth paying even $45 for (Green Man Gaming price is even less). Even if The Witcher 3 had identical graphics to TW2, it's shaping up to be a contender for GOTY. Name any other game released on the PC this year that is a contender for GOTY?

When we get console trash like Titanfall and Evolve with DLC packs and 0 story-line and they cost $60-120 with DLC, how is a game with 100+ hours of SP, and that likely will be The best RPG of 2015 not worth $45-60?
 
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boozzer

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In this case you would take 1 step forward, 2 steps back. You'd punish CDPR from not making a technical masterpiece, but you'd also send a signal to the industry that single player open world RPGs with 100+ hours of storyline aren't worth paying even $45 for (Green Man Gaming price is even less). Even if The Witcher 3 had identical graphics to TW2, it's shaping up to be a contender for GOTY. Name any other game released on the PC this year that is a contender for GOTY?

When we get console trash like Titanfall and Evolve with DLC packs and 0 story-line and they cost $60-120 with DLC, how is a game with 100+ hours of SP, and that likely will be The best RPG of 2015 not worth $45-60?
I am still pissed, need a place to vent. my wallet is the only one in my control. and I didn't buy any of those games you mentioned, nor played them. damn, just realize I might be becoming a casual haha. I should just buy a console and be done with pc gaming :eek:
 

RussianSensation

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I should just buy a console and be done with pc gaming :eek:

Not necessarily. There is another popular way to play PC games for adults who are busy with life/families or those are are frustrated that it takes 6-12 months for AAA games to get patches or those who are simply budget gamers -- buy games 12-24 months from release. This way you don't need a $700 GPU to max them out, you don't need to worry about crashes, early bugs/glitches as much, and you also get the benefit of buying ALL the DLC for pennies on the dollar.

There have been plenty of AAA games for $5-10 (Thief, The Witcher 2, Tomb Raider GOTY edition, Far Cry 3, Borderlands 1&2, all Batman games, Sleeping Dogs, all Dirt games, etc.). There is no point in you buying a $40-60 game if you only start playing it in 2-3 years.
 

Azix

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I think we can just start a petition against gameworks. The idea of not buying it on release would get the message across. One would think. But I've come to think the decision makers won't care.

take money from nvidia/promote nvidia or please some gamers...
 

RussianSensation

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I think we can just start a petition against gameworks. The idea of not buying it on release would get the message across. One would think. But I've come to think the decision makers won't care.

take money from nvidia/promote nvidia or please some gamers...

There is a better way to combat GameWorks - buy AMD cards when it makes sense (for example if AMD cards aren't crap like HD2900XT series) because it gets the market closer to 50/50 at which point NV has less leverage over developers. In this case, as an added bonus you also get more performance per $ in almost all cases with AMD cards, basically every single generation since HD4800 series. Boycotting GW games isn't going to stop NV from pouring $ towards it if it's market share approaches 95%. Anyway, please let's get back to TW3 because this GW things has been beaten to death.

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Based on the article from PCgameshardware, it appears TW3 runs well on both AMD and NV products, as long as you disable Hairworks and the game runs well on 280X or 770 at 1080P. I think that's pretty good if all we have to do is turn off Hairworks and get blazing fast performance. I think HD7970Ghz OC CF and 680 OC SLI should hit 60 fps on Ultra at 1080P without Hairworks. That's not too bad considering those cards are 3 years old.
 
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escrow4

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We will gain a lot with Mantle's DX12 Asynchronous Compute, where rendering won't be bottlenecked by compute functions such as lighting, reflections, particles, destruction, hair, etc. It will run in parallel and even utilize the same shaders.

Currently with DX11, its a one-lane street for all rendering & compute traffic and that's why these DX11 compute features cripple performance.

Also, for Witcher 3, they did downgrade it, but the question is why not include an optional download for PC users, ala Shadow of Mordor's 4K texture pack. All they need are sliders + ultra texture options and boom, game is back to PC quality that absolutely crushes current GPUs.

Its not just sliders and textures. Whole parts of the lighting model were yanked. A slider just implies more of something, more NPCs/density, more lighting sources. If you look at 2013 parts of the Witcher 3, it was entirely different. IF the game remained PC exclusive you'd see it all. Except PC exclusives are more or less dead. As Russian said I'm still more than happy that this is a meaty single player game not an offline MMO like Amalur and parts of Inquisition. These sorts of single player games are not the priority anymore. Even now in 2015, after May 19th, what other fat single player games are coming this year? Even GTA V is going online sadly with a chopped up single player campaign - is this the direction of future PC games? No point playing for me if so.
 
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casiofx

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There is a better way to combat GameWorks - buy AMD cards when it makes sense (for example if AMD cards aren't crap like HD2900XT series) because it gets the market closer to 50/50 at which point NV has less leverage over developers. In this case, as an added bonus you also get more performance per $ in almost all cases with AMD cards, basically every single generation since HD4800 series. Boycotting GW games isn't going to stop NV from pouring $ towards it if it's market share approaches 95%. Anyway, please let's get back to TW3 because this GW things has been beaten to death.

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Based on the article from PCgameshardware, it appears TW3 runs well on both AMD and NV products, as long as you disable Hairworks and the game runs well on 280X or 770 at 1080P. I think that's pretty good if all we have to do is turn off Hairworks and get blazing fast performance. I think HD7970Ghz OC and 680 OC SLI should hit 60 fps on Ultra at 1080P without Hairworks. That's not too bad considering those cards are 3 years old.
What does Hairworks do in the witcher 3? I remembered enabling TressFX gave a huge performance hit on my R9 290 in Tomb Raider, I'd rather play with smoother game rather then a prettier hair which is pretty much ignored by me anyways.
 
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What does Hairworks do in the witcher 3? I remembered enabling TressFX gave a huge performance hit on my R9 290 in Tomb Raider, I'd rather play with smoother game rather then a prettier hair which is pretty much ignored by me anyways.

Prettier hair & furrier wolves.
 

VirtualLarry

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Based on the article from PCgameshardware, it appears TW3 runs well on both AMD and NV products, as long as you disable Hairworks and the game runs well on 280X or 770 at 1080P. I think that's pretty good if all we have to do is turn off Hairworks and get blazing fast performance. I think HD7970Ghz OC and 680 OC SLI should hit 60 fps on Ultra at 1080P without Hairworks. That's not too bad considering those cards are 3 years old.

How would it play on a G3258 with a 7950 (800/1250 stock)? What would I need to OC it to, to make TW3 playable? Or should I invest into a Haswell i3-4160 3.6Ghz?

Edit: Monitor is 1080P.
 

casiofx

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How would it play on a G3258 with a 7950 (800/1250 stock)? What would I need to OC it to, to make TW3 playable? Or should I invest into a Haswell i3-4160 3.6Ghz?

Edit: Monitor is 1080P.
7950 is a monster overclocker card. Try to slide the overclock settings to the max on catalyst control centre, IINM 7950 can run at the max overclock limit in CCC with no problem. Should be enough for TW3 for the system requirements. Remember to clean your GPU heatsink and fans too if you plan to overclock. My 290 had quite some dust even after 1 year+ usage. A HD5830 on another pc almost had the heatsink fins blocked....

Not a good idea to invest into i3-4160 too, a heavily OCed G3258 is nearly the same speed as i3-4160 in gaming. If want to upgrade the CPU, go straight for i5-4460 or Xeon E3 1231 v3.
 
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Vaporizer

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Far Cry 4 had quite furry wolves but the performance hit aren't that big :confused:
What did they do this time to even have Nvidia cards tanked hard?
Because they want to promote Titan X. This is a glimpse on what happens when AMD is gone. GW will only run on premium Gamer hardware Titan line. Budget GTX cards will be able to yield console graphics for a "cut my own throat" price tag of 599$. Titan line will be 1000+$ price. So no need for discomfort. NV will handle everthing for us. At least for a certain price...