NVIDIA Readies GeForce GT 1030 to Compete with Radeon RX 550

[tamz_msc]

The cheapest RX550 is $110 in my country (Sapphire Pulse).
1030 will be cheaper because unlike AMD, Nvidia doesn't allow distributors and retailers to price gouge. Unless AMD sorts this, Nvidia will keep having the upper hand in countries where AMD price gouging occurs.

Price gouging is intentionally done by retailers because they can take advantage of the mindshare. That and limited supply makes pricing so idiotic here. The initial launch price of the RX 480 being one example.

AMD has said they're doing something about it though.

 

[cbn]

The picture of the Zotac GT 1030 finally showed up on Videocardz:

https://videocardz.net/zotac-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp

 

[mohit9206]

Why would they need such a long PCB

 

[cbn]

I wonder how many games GT 1030 and RX550 will be able to play at 4K? (Serious question)

Maybe Team Fortress 2 and some other valve games? If so, I wonder how high the quality settings could be turned up? Would the extra memory bandwidth on the RX550 help it (in older/less demanding games at 4K) compared to the GT 1030?

P.S. One reason I am asking is because playing natively has less input lag than streaming from a workstation or gaming PC....so for a living room PC this is the route I would take if it is available.

The GT 1030 supposedly has less than half the memory BW of the RX 550.

Yes, at 6 Gbps GDDR5 (KFA2 version) it would have less than half the bandwidth.

At 7 Gbps GDDR5 the 64 bit GT 1030 would have half the bandwidth of the 128 bit 7 Gbps GDDR5 of the RX550.

With this noted, I do wonder how much VRAM amount and GPU core will factor in at 4K with older games? Do these become the bottleneck over the bandwidth? Or do the older games not really need much VRAM even at 4K?

In my experience, you *may* get away with Source engine titles at 4K. UE3 however won't cut it.

TF2,CSGO,Overwatch, etc will all be playable at 4K..

I wonder how fast CS:G0* could go at 4K with a midrange Core 2 quad?

How far could the detail settings be increased before dropping down to 60 FPS?

*In my experience this is Valve's most hardware demanding game. (eg,Team Fortress 2 is easier on hardware than CS:G0)

 

[tamz_msc]

Core 2 Quad is not going to cut it, my guess would be 40-50 on low. I have a Core 2 Duo and GT 730 and in Insurgency I get less than 40fps at 1440p DSR at an empty region with the best performing map.

 

[mohit9206]

Would my Sandy Bridge Pentium bottleneck a 1030?

 

[cbn]

Core 2 Quad is not going to cut it, my guess would be 40-50 on low. I have a Core 2 Duo and GT 730 and in Insurgency I get less than 40fps at 1440p DSR at an empty region with the best performing map.

What Core 2 duo and GT 730 do you have? (Nvidia makes three GT 730s one of which actually uses a Fermi GPU)

P.S. I have a Lenovo SFF desktop with 4GB of RAM and a E8400......I'll install my PNY GT 730 GDDR5 sometime this weekend and see how it does in CS:GO. It's connected to a 1280 x 1024 monitor but that should at least give me an indication of the FPS potential of the CPU.

EDIT: Here is a thread from Steam about running CS:GO with Core 2 duo. E8400 at stock speed is reported at 100 to 120 FPS with dips to 60 FPS on a GTX 460 with resolution at 1650 x 1050 default settings.

 

[tamz_msc]

What Core 2 duo and GT 730 do you have? (Nvidia makes three GT 730s one of which actually uses a Fermi GPU)

P.S. I have a Lenovo SFF desktop with 4GB of RAM and a E8400......I'll install my PNY GT 730 GDDR5 sometime this weekend and see how it does in CS:GO. It's connected to a 1280 x 1024 monitor but that should at least give me an indication of the FPS potential of the CPU.

EDIT: Here is a thread from Steam about running CS:GO with Core 2 duo. E8400 at stock speed is reported at 100 to 120 FPS with dips to 60 FPS on a GTX 460 with resolution at 1650 x 1050 default settings.

I have the Kepler version and the E6300. I know it's clock speed is very low, but Insurgency is the most graphically demanding Source FPS out there.

1440p DSR is what I use to break 90 percent GPU utilization and I get around 40 FPS on custom settings, mostly low.

Insurgeny has scope rendering, where the view through scopes is rendered independently and this has a big imapct on frame rates.

I'm thinking of getting a Sapphire RX 550 2GB to see how modern AAA games work on it. I'm on Windows 8.1 and using GeForce drivers dating back to March 2015, anything newer gives me TDRs.

 

[tamz_msc]

Would my Sandy Bridge Pentium bottleneck a 1030?

That Pentium does not have HT, it will be a problem in a few games, for example Witcher 3 stutters, or rather freezes completely for 1-2s at regular intervals unless it is run on at least four threads.

 

[SPBHM]

one thing worth exploring for a setup with a limited CPU is using a FPS cap, for Witcher 3 using a 30FPS cap (like consoles) might be a good thing.

 

[mohit9206]

Looks like everyone on internet is against this card.
Whenever i mention gaming, they say its a garbage card for gaming when gtx 1050 is only $30 more and twice as fast.

 

[tamz_msc]

I game at 1366x768. These cards are perfect for this resolution.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Looks like everyone on internet is against this card.

I'm not. Give me a low profile single slot GT1030, and I'll buy at least three. I could even use a "GT1010" variant.

Whenever i mention gaming, they say its a garbage card for gaming when gtx 1050 is only $30 more and twice as fast.

This class of cards aren't made for gaming. They're for cheaply adding functionality to older and IGP equipped systems. Gaming is a secondary concern, they're capable, but one shouldn't expect too much.

 

[cbn]

I game at 1366x768. These cards are perfect for this resolution.

Yep, that makes sense for AAA gaming.

1366 x 768 is roughly half the pixels of 1920 x 1080 and GT 1030 is half a GTX 1050 Ti.

 

[SPBHM]

Looks like everyone on internet is against this card.
Whenever i mention gaming, they say its a garbage card for gaming when gtx 1050 is only $30 more and twice as fast.

it might be twice as fast on equal settings, but people gaming on cheap cards tend to reduce settings and not notice the difference so much, diminishing returns and all that, not to mention CPU bottlenecks and people playing older (or simply less demanding) games... if your game still runs smoothly and you saved $30 it could feel like a win...

for certain game conditions and uses this 1030 can be as good as a Titan Xp (well, better, considering power usage)


this is the first proper small GPU from Nvidia for the desktop since the Fermi/Kepler days, so it's kind of exciting.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The picture of the Zotac GT 1030 finally showed up on Videocardz:

https://videocardz.net/zotac-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp

Is that a potentially single-slot low-profile ready design? Long-ish PCB, I wonder if that will fit in my Haswell Acer SFF PC. Would like to throw a low-end gaming / HTPC card in there, to sell.

 

[cbn]

Is that a potentially single-slot low-profile ready design? Long-ish PCB, I wonder if that will fit in my Haswell Acer SFF PC. Would like to throw a low-end gaming / HTPC card in there, to sell.

Yes, it should work as low profile.

P.S. If you are concerned about the PCB length (and want single slot height coolers) then take a look at these when they come out:

https://videocardz.net/gigabyte-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp/

https://videocardz.net/msi-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp/

 

[nvgpu]

https://videocardz.com/69486/nvidia-geforce-gt-1030-features-384-cuda-cores

 

[Headfoot]

Looks like everyone on internet is against this card.
Whenever i mention gaming, they say its a garbage card for gaming when gtx 1050 is only $30 more and twice as fast.

They're right

 

[sm625]

Looks like everyone on internet is against this card.
Whenever i mention gaming, they say its a garbage card for gaming when gtx 1050 is only $30 more and twice as fast.

It would have been a great card 3 years ago. This is AMD's late, late answer to the Maxwell GTX 750.

 

[tamz_msc]

It would have been a great card 3 years ago. This is AMD's late, late answer to the Maxwell GTX 750.

GTX 750 isn't a sub-50W card. Also it does not support all the video decoding features that the RX 550/GT 1030 does.

 

[sm625]

GTX 750 isn't a sub-50W card. Also it does not support all the video decoding features that the RX 550/GT 1030 does.

That is why RX550 would have been a really good card 3 years ago. It might have actually outsold the GTX750.

 

[tamz_msc]

That is why RX550 would have been a really good card 3 years ago. It might have actually outsold the GTX750.

The problem is that nobody thought of supporting full h265 decode in an entry-level card three years ago. At least AMD gets some credit for addressing this market and getting NVIDIA to finally respond with a successor to the GT 730.

 

[nvgpu]

https://videocardz.com/69549/asus-and-inno3d-confirm-geforce-gt-1030-specs

 

[tamz_msc]

So it's official, the GT 1030 IS the Quadro P600, just like I had said a few pages back.