NVIDIA Readies GeForce GT 1030 to Compete with Radeon RX 550

[cbn]

This article is claiming there will be a 512sp variant in addition to the 384sp card:

http://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gt-1030-retail-card-spotted

P.S. Could this additional GT 1030 follow a branding scheme similar to the GTX 1060 6GB and 3GB? (ie, the card with the higher amount of VRAM has more GPU cores enabled)

So GT 1030 (512sp) 4GB and GT 1030 (384sp) 2GB?

No. 1030 will strictly be 384sp while 1040 will strictly be 512sp.
There would be 2 and 4gb models but 4gb is useless on a card like 1030 atleast for gaming not to mention 4gb models will be $100.
So from what we know
1030 - 384sp,64bit,2gb gddr5, 6gbps,$80
1040 - 512sp,128bit,2gb gddr5, 6gbps,$100
1040 is almost useless because 1050 is only $10 more.

Cut down GP107 (512sp) with 6 Gbps GDDR5.

vs.

Fully enabled GP108 (ie, 512sp) with fast GDDR5 (8 or 9 GBps)

I wonder what Nvidia might be thinking about?

P.S. Apparently 9 Gbps GDDR5 is becoming more mainstream because some GTX 1060 6GB models are getting it now.

 

[sm625]

I wonder what Nvidia might be thinking about?

Perhaps they are thinking if people are willing to pay $100 for a card containing a gpu that costs them $19 to make, perhaps they'd be willing to pay the same for a $17 gpu. So maybe they will cut back on GP107 production and sell just as many GP108 in its place. Moar profits!

 

[Bouowmx]

Another low-profile model, from MSI: https://videocardz.net/msi-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp/

Your opinion of only 2 display outputs available? A single-slot model with 3 display outputs would be great.

 

[cbn]

Another low-profile model, from MSI: https://videocardz.net/msi-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp/

Nice that the memory clock is 7 Gbps on that model vs. the 6 Gbps on the KFA2.

TDP is also up to 35W.

Your opinion of only 2 display outputs available? A single-slot model with 3 display outputs would be great.

Yes, single slot with 3 outputs would have been great.

It can be done if we look at the Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti (below) as an example.

(Although I could imagine some people wanting HDMI and DVI together for a single slot. This wouldn't be able to fit another display output)

 

[mohit9206]

1030 - 384 cores,24 TMU,8 ROPs,64 bit.
1040 - 512 cores,24 or 32 TMU? ,16 ROPs,128bit.
So what kind of performance difference can be expected between the two?

 

[tamz_msc]

Has there been any leaks of this GT 1040?

 

[mohit9206]

Has there been any leaks of this GT 1040?

No leaks so far.

 

[cbn]

Some additional GT 1030 models (besides the MSI and KFA2 already mentioned in this thread) on the following page:

https://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-1000/geforce-gt-1030

Below are the passive models:

 

[cbn]

1030 - 384 cores,24 TMU,8 ROPs,64 bit.
1040 - 512 cores,24 or 32 TMU? ,16 ROPs,128bit.
So what kind of performance difference can be expected between the two?

Mohit,

What do you think the TDP will be?

 

[cbn]

Looking at the two passive GT 1030 in post #58 I'm surprised at least one of them doesn't have three or more display outputs. (re: the passive coolers effectively make them dual slot cards)

With that mentioned, I do remember my Slim Dell Optiplex 360 being unable to install a dual slot card, but it could install a single slot card with a dual slot height cooler. So maybe these OEMs wanted to stick with the dual slot height cooler/single slot bracket for that reason (limiting the available area for adding video outputs)?

 

[mohit9206]

Mohit,

What do you think the TDP will be?

Probably 35W for 1030 and 55W for 1040.

 

[crisium]

What is your source for an existence of a GT 1040 again? It seems the 1040 was first mentioned by you with absolute certainty in a response to cbn. Maybe you forgot to post it.

No. 1030 will strictly be 384sp while 1040 will strictly be 512sp.
There would be 2 and 4gb models but 4gb is useless on a card like 1030 atleast for gaming not to mention 4gb models will be $100.
So from what we know
1030 - 384sp,64bit,2gb gddr5, 6gbps,$80
1040 - 512sp,128bit,2gb gddr5, 6gbps,$100
1040 is almost useless because 1050 is only $10 more.

 

[cbn]

I believe Mohit got the GT 1040 specs from a rumor originally posted by Videocardz.

I have the link in this post, but Videocardz has since removed it,

 

[cbn]

55W for 1040.

+1.

Reason: 512sp is 2/3 768sp of the GTX 1050 Ti.....so that would be 50W. However, this rumored GT 1040 spec has the full amount of memory controllers so add back ~5W.

 

[cbn]

I wonder how many games GT 1030 and RX550 will be able to play at 4K? (Serious question)

Maybe Team Fortress 2 and some other valve games? If so, I wonder how high the quality settings could be turned up? Would the extra memory bandwidth on the RX550 help it (in older/less demanding games at 4K) compared to the GT 1030?

P.S. One reason I am asking is because playing natively has less input lag than streaming from a workstation or gaming PC....so for a living room PC this is the route I would take if it is available.

 

[tamz_msc]

The GT 1030 supposedly has less than half the memory BW of the RX 550.

 

[cbn]

The GT 1030 supposedly has less than half the memory BW of the RX 550.

Yes, at 6 Gbps GDDR5 (KFA2 version) it would have less than half the bandwidth.

At 7 Gbps GDDR5 the 64 bit GT 1030 would have half the bandwidth of the 128 bit 7 Gbps GDDR5 of the RX550.

With this noted, I do wonder how much VRAM amount and GPU core will factor in at 4K with older games? Do these become the bottleneck over the bandwidth? Or do the older games not really need much VRAM even at 4K?

 

[tamz_msc]

Yes, at 6 Gbps GDDR5 (KFA2 version) it would have less than half the bandwidth.

At 7 Gbps GDDR5 the 64 bit GT 1030 would have half the bandwidth of the 128 bit 7 Gbps GDDR5 of the RX550.

With this noted, I do wonder how much VRAM amount and GPU core will factor in at 4K with older games? Do these become the bottleneck over the bandwidth? Or do the older games not really need much VRAM even at 4K?

In my experience, you *may* get away with Source engine titles at 4K. UE3 however won't cut it.

 

[mohit9206]

TF2,CSGO,Overwatch, etc will all be playable at 4K.
What I'm more interested is how does it fare with AAA games at 1080p.
I want to see benchmarks for ROTR, BF1,Witcher 3, Resident evil 7, etc.
And not with a $1000 processor but with sub $200 cpu.
The way these people test graphics cards at ultra settings with an overclocked $1000 cpu with 32gb ram "to eliminate potential bottleneck and for the sake of consistency" is plain stupid.

 

[tamz_msc]

Tom's Hardware tested the RX 550 with an i3 6320.

 

[nvgpu]

https://videocardz.net/evga-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp

 

[mohit9206]

Tom's Hardware tested the RX 550 with an i3 6320.

Yeah that's good.

These little cards are quite capable even though price wise they don't make much sense.

 

[tamz_msc]

Battlefield 1 and Frostbite 3 in general is quite CPU intensive. Other games like Witcher 3 or RoTTR should fare much better.

 

[mohit9206]

Battlefield 1 and Frostbite 3 in general is quite CPU intensive. Other games like Witcher 3 or RoTTR should fare much better.

ROTR does 20 fps on low settings at 1600*900 on a GT 730 Gddr5 so 1030 should be twice as fast so around 40fps.

 

[mohit9206]

The cheapest RX550 is $110 in my country (Sapphire Pulse).
1030 will be cheaper because unlike AMD, Nvidia doesn't allow distributors and retailers to price gouge. Unless AMD sorts this, Nvidia will keep having the upper hand in countries where AMD price gouging occurs.