Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

[igor_kavinski]

I want my perf/w improvements

Hey, maybe LBT manages a short 18A run for some special edition SKU. For the faithful priced 25% more over TSMC silicon due to low volume and yield issues

 

[Thunder 57]

Hey, maybe LBT manages a short 18A run for some special edition SKU. For the faithful priced 25% more over TSMC silicon due to low volume and yield issues

Let me guess, a P4 Tejas clocked to the moon just for you?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Only at the "correct settings" meaning under 8GB.

Also, while the "for science" testing has value, throw the cards in the gen 3 and 4 slot systems they are much more likely to be found in. The GOAT will start to shine.

 

[poke01]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-n1x-desktop-soc-appears-in-first-furmark-leak-featuring-new-590-drivers

This N1X is the most interesting Blackwell product. Much more interesting than 5090s or supers with more VRAM

 

[ToTTenTranz]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-n1x-desktop-soc-appears-in-first-furmark-leak-featuring-new-590-drivers

This N1X is the most interesting Blackwell product. Much more interesting than 5090s or supers with more VRAM

N1X being interesting or not will almost entirely depend on how well it can run win32 apps. That's what pretty much what's been killing all Windows+ARM initiatives for over a dozen years (starting with Surface RT).

 

[poke01]

N1X being interesting or not will almost entirely depend on how well it can run win32 apps. That's what pretty much what's been killing all Windows+ARM initiatives for over a dozen years (starting with Surface RT).

true if it fails again at least Linux support will be great

 

[Heartbreaker]

N1X being interesting or not will almost entirely depend on how well it can run win32 apps. That's what pretty much what's been killing all Windows+ARM initiatives for over a dozen years (starting with Surface RT).

Even then, interesting for what? It will likely cost more than Strix Halo but perform worse for gaming.

It has as many Shader cores as an RTX 5070, but less memory BW than a 5060. So maybe in Windows you can game on it like it's a 5060, and low end CPU.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Even then, interesting for what? It will likely cost more than Strix Halo but perform worse for gaming.

It has as many Shader cores as an RTX 5070, but less memory BW than a 5060. So maybe in Windows you can game on it like it's a 5060, and low end CPU.

Strix Halo's iGPU has a little over half the RAM bandwidth of the 5060 which it then needs to share with a whopping 16 cores Zen5.

I don't know how much L2 the iGPU in N1X but it should be a similar 32MB.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Strix Halo's iGPU has a little over half the RAM bandwidth of the 5060 which it then needs to share with a whopping 16 cores Zen5.

I don't know how much L2 the iGPU in N1X but it should be a similar 32MB.

The BW issues isn't with the CPU side, it's on the GPU side, and both Strix Halo and N1X have essentially the same 256 bit LPDDR bus. Theoretically N1X has more GPU performance but without any more BW I doubt it matters much.

N1X will have the added burden of needing to emulate x86, and of course NVidia pricing.

 

[Golgatha]

When is Blackwell next coming??

This generation has been so boring…

Barely any uplifts from my 4070 super. I hope next gen is based on a N3 node. I want my perf/w improvements

The way we're headed, the 6070 will have a 128bit memory bus.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The way we're headed, the 6070 will have a 128bit memory bus.

But they will pay someone to test it against 2080 Ti and then the headlines will be, 6070 beats 2080 Ti! Throw the Ti in the garbage and get on with the times!

 

[utahraptor]

I hate Gigabyte so much right now I am on the verge of melting down and striking out. First I get the 4090 Aorus Master and the first one destroys my entire computer and itself. I RMA the card through newegg since I just got it. Then the second destroys its own LCD module via bad firmware update in new computer. I had to pay over $200 to ship this one back as it had to be insured. I gave away the 3rd one to my nephew. Now my Gigabyte 5090 Aorus has self destructed the LCD module again via their shit software firmware update. If they don't RMA this card without charging me shipping I may go an hero.

 

[gdansk]

Well, don't do that. But do stop buying Gigabyte products. And especially anything with an LCD module.

 

[Thunder 57]

I hate Gigabyte so much right now I am on the verge of melting down and striking out. First I get the 4090 Aorus Master and the first one destroys my entire computer and itself. I RMA the card through newegg since I just got it. Then the second destroys its own LCD module via bad firmware update in new computer. I had to pay over $200 to ship this one back as it had to be insured. I gave away the 3rd one to my nephew. Now my Gigabyte 5090 Aorus has self destructed the LCD module again via their shit software firmware update. If they don't RMA this card without charging me shipping I may go an hero.

What's the definition of insanity?

 

[coercitiv]

I hate Gigabyte so much right now

Don't worry, you'll get over it. Gigabyte is preparing a killer 6090 with two LCD panels.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Now my Gigabyte 5090 Aorus has self destructed the LCD module again via their shit software firmware update.

I read one horror story about that and never installed their LCD firmware on my RX 6800 AORUS card. Also warned the buyer about it when I sold it recently. I wonder if you have trouble with stuff in general where your inner voice tells you don't do it and you do it anyway

 

[bba-tcg]

I hate Gigabyte so much right now I am on the verge of melting down and striking out. First I get the 4090 Aorus Master and the first one destroys my entire computer and itself. I RMA the card through newegg since I just got it. Then the second destroys its own LCD module via bad firmware update in new computer. I had to pay over $200 to ship this one back as it had to be insured. I gave away the 3rd one to my nephew. Now my Gigabyte 5090 Aorus has self destructed the LCD module again via their shit software firmware update. If they don't RMA this card without charging me shipping I may go an hero.

Why do you keep buying Gigabyte cards?

 

[utahraptor]

Why do you keep buying Gigabyte cards?

Because I'm an idiot. I'm going to call them in the morning. I will be made whole one way or another. Even if I have to waste their time on the phone for hours on end. I once spent 4 hours wasting Google's chat support time to get a refund on a $5 ebook they screwed me on. Finally they just gave up. I will not pay for shipping this time.

 

[bba-tcg]

They better make this right or this might be the end of my computi

Because I'm an idiot. I'm going to call them in the morning. I will be made whole one way or another. Even if I have to waste their time on the phone for hours on end. I once spent 4 hours wasting Google's chat support time to get a refund on a $5 ebook they screwed me on. Finally they just gave up. I will not pay for shipping this ti

Before caller ID was such a common thing (and subsequently. auto phone systems), I harassed companies into doing what I wanted in tech support situations. Every time they picked up the phone, it was me on the other end. Ah, good times...

 

[igor_kavinski]

I harassed companies into doing what I wanted in tech support situations. Every time they picked up the phone, it was me on the other end. Ah, good times...

You, the Baba Yaga in the nightmares of tech support people

 

[Ranulf]

Nvidia adding an extra year of support for win10. Maxwell and Pascal will go to quarterly updates after October.

Mafia: The Old Country GeForce Game Ready Driver Released

Also includes Game Ready support for Clair Obscur: Expedition 33’s DLSS 4 with Multi Frame Generation update, and 62 new G-SYNC Compatible gaming displays.

www.nvidia.com

"After a final Game Ready Driver release in October 2025, GeForce GPUs based on Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta architectures will transition to receiving quarterly security updates for the next three years (through October 2028). Our support lifetime for these GPUs reaches up to 11 years, well beyond industry norms.

Also, we’re extending Windows 10 Game Ready Driver support for all GeForce RTX GPUs to October 2026, a year beyond the operating system’s end-of-life, to ensure users continue to receive the latest day-0 optimizations for new games and apps."

 

[Mopetar]

You, the Baba Yaga in the nightmares of tech support people

Isn't it more of a Bbaba Yatcga in this case?

 

[bba-tcg]

You, the Baba Yaga in the nightmares of tech support people

I did convince many companies to make exceptions to company policy. In my defense, if I call a company to tell them of a problem with its product, its product is the problem.

I'm old and mellow now and no longer have the mojo I used to.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I did convince many companies to make exceptions to company policy. In my defense, if I call a company to tell them of a problem with its product, its product is the problem.

We needed someone like you to be the owner of a melted 4090

 

[bba-tcg]

We needed someone like you to be the owner of a melted 4090

I'm sure nVidia would be a challenge.