Originally posted by: Extelleron
nVidia isn't anywhere near beating AMD in performance, AMD is way ahead right now in virtually every segment of the market.
Most misleading/untrue post ever.
4850 ~= 9800GTX+
GTX260 Core 216 ~=HD4870 1GB
GTX280>HD48701GB
4870X2>>GTX280
There's the $150-$550 price range, I see AMD "way ahead" in the Crossfire on a stick market only.
Originally posted by: Extelleron
AMD isn't "taking a bath" on the 48xx series, the margins are great the way that they are and this is where AMD had planned to price the cards in the first place. The HD 4850 and 4870 are both cheap to produce; only 512MB memory, 260mm^2 GPU, 256-bit, no need for an expensive cooler.
Yeah, that's swell how the 4850 is considerably hotter than all known cards and dumps all that heat right into your case.
The 4870 1GB keeps alive the Radeon HD 4000-series tradition of high GPU temperatures.
Originally posted by: Extelleron
The one suffering in the price war is nVidia, not AMD.
AMD isn't the one to worry about in terms of finances. AMD is on the rebound in every market and they posted a solid operating income in Q3 largely because of how strong their GPU division is. And with 45nm coming their CPU division is going to get a boost as well. nVidia, on the other hand, is being forced to fight a price war with expensive hardware that they intended to sell for much higher prices. nVidia is taking a loss selling a GTX 260 for $200. AMD is not taking a loss selling an HD 4870 for $200. With products like Fusion and Larrabee on the horizon and AMD having such a strong lineup, I would be more concerned about nVidia's health than AMD's.
Errrrr...yeah. I'm sure AMD wanted to sell their fabs and another 10% of their company, not to mention go through their 8th straight quarter of losses. They're also probably ecstatic the combined value of AMD and ATi is hovering a little above half the value of NVIDIA.
I don't even get the point of posting stuff like this- not like we don't all read the same info and know it's all false.