NV40 0wnage of ATi R420 coming soon to a store near you?

[nRollo]

Remember the time when you had something useful to say in this forum? No? Neither can I.

LOL :beer:

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: cindy22

remember the time when nvidia was supposed to pull out the big guns with 5800fx , rumours and websites like tomshardware sayed 5800fx was going to be king and was supposed to beat ati 9700 pro by an average of 30%?

actually tom's went so far as to crown the fx5800 as king.. granted, as we all know their king had no cloths.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Anyone can put a ball through a hoop, eh? I'd like to see you drop 3 pointers like nothing, dunk, and out-dribble an NBA player.

Who said anything about doing it better? This is exactly what I'm talking about. The point is anyone can drop a three pointer, dribble, etc. There are 4 years olds doing this. Having proficiency at it does not impress me; rather, it lends itself to the idea that the "athlete", barring exceptional natural ability, has wasted a great deal of their life working on a skill with very little practical application. Assuming against all odds, a good basketball player does make it into the NBA, great. What if they get in a car accident and lose an arm? A doctor of physics, however, has no such worries.

Granted, the above is true of most every sport - they are not exclusive to people - which is why I have preference for the athletic activities in which not only physical ability but mental ability is required as well. To be a successfull basketball player, you have to be able to dribble, shoot, and play some defense. Becoming a successful powerlifter takes an in depth knowledge of human anatomy, human physiology, nutrition, myology (muscle study), and kinesiology (anatomical function, joint physics). I find, in general, the fields of competition I listed above tend to contain far more intelligent and interesting athletes than your standard defensive lineman.

There are of course exceptions to this, like every rule of thumb.

Anyway, are we done being OT yet?

I am sorry..there is no other way to put what I think of you and your opinion into words; you are purely fvcking retarded.

 

[chsh1ca]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Do you understand WHY people are loyal to brands? Because those brands have been proven over a period of time to be better than the competition when it comes to value, quality, performance, or any one of those 3. It is OBVIOUS that neither ATI or Nvidia has dominated the graphics card industry singlehandedly over the past 3-4 years. Both companies have released great products, you and I know that.

Really? Why do people buy Energizer batteries at all? Why does anyone bother buying Ford vehicles? They had a stream of bad car releases in the 80s and early 90s, recalls, etc.. People are brand loyal not because any one brand is far superior to the others but because they succumb to advertising both by commercial but also by word of mouth.

It is up to us, the consumer, to evaluate each release as it comes and make sure that it is truly the best product for ourselves.

Again, that is no different than with video cards. Time in the marketplace has nothing to do with it. Consider how long the Swiffer line has been out, and how popular it is.

 

[kylebisme]

lol, a bit off topic here but i generally buy durecell or enregister, whichever is cheaper, so i figured i would try to find some info on it. anyway, i did a search on google and found this, ya that's right 167 entries will the same post copied over and over again pointing out something that no one else is talking about.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Rollo Creative fiction?

Yes, I find your writing very creative

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: chsh1ca

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Do you understand WHY people are loyal to brands? Because those brands have been proven over a period of time to be better than the competition when it comes to value, quality, performance, or any one of those 3. It is OBVIOUS that neither ATI or Nvidia has dominated the graphics card industry singlehandedly over the past 3-4 years. Both companies have released great products, you and I know that.

Really? Why do people buy Energizer batteries at all? Why does anyone bother buying Ford vehicles? They had a stream of bad car releases in the 80s and early 90s, recalls, etc.. People are brand loyal not because any one brand is far superior to the others but because they succumb to advertising both by commercial but also by word of mouth.

It is up to us, the consumer, to evaluate each release as it comes and make sure that it is truly the best product for ourselves.

Again, that is no different than with video cards. Time in the marketplace has nothing to do with it. Consider how long the Swiffer line has been out, and how popular it is.

Please don't tell me that you actually think people aren't brand loyal because of the quality of the product; they most certainly are. Sure, some may be loyal for other reasons, but some are simply for the product or what the superiority that they perceive.
Example: "I only buy Sony TVs because they are the best!"
Now you tell me, is that person loyal simply because of advertising? They obviously THINK the product is better, but why? Not every person would think it is better merely because of advertising/word of mouth, some actually do the research.

Anyway..back to original topic; "We do not yet know if the NV40 will "own" the R420, or vice-versa. We will find out once both products are released, and only then can we judge which product is better." Who disagrees with that?

 

[PCTweaker5]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Am I the only person who doesn't care which company makes the better card? Ill buy whichever card is the best, be it the NV40 or the R420. I just want the best performance/quality for my money.

Do you like sports Excelsior? Like football? Any particular team you root for? Or do you not care what team wins. Point is, this is like techno sports, and all of us tech nuts are all talkin smack before the big game. Thats all. If you want to buy the best price/performance card at the
time, then thats ok. Go for it. Other folks obviously like to root for their favorite team. Nobody's forcing you to be a part of it.

Chevy and Ford baby! Nvidia is Chevy and Im stickin to it for its *reliability* and power! ATI is FoundOnRoadDead

 

[PCTweaker5]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Maybe because you are not good at them?

I'd rather give up my computer and all future computer purchases and playing videogames for life if I could keep sports in return if faced with this choice.

Can you really relieve stress playing videogames? nope, not really after you kill all the enemies u are still pissed off
Can you meet hot girls while playing videogames? probably 100x less likely than playing sports
The fun in comparison playing a sport as a team or individually vs. videogames? 100:1
Positive health effects of sport exercise vs. sitting at home at a computer? xxxx : 0
The entertainment in watching a sports game on tv vs. watching someone play a videogame? Have you ever heard someone say lets go over Bob's house and watch him play Splinter Cell?

hmmm........
Can you improve your physique or looks by playing videogames? nata
With sports you can get your muscles toned and get a tan. haha
How much money does the average athlete make vs. the average person who wins videogame championships?

I don't even wanna argue this topic its so ludicrous.

well anyways...i hope you werent' serious about sports being pointless because if you were you need to seek medical help

I had no trouble with Basketball and Soccer when I was younger. What disgusts me about sports is the culture. The only athletes I continue to respect are bodybuilders, powerlifters, swimmers, and cyclists. The focus on strengthening the self instead of a pure pursuit of beating the other guy. I really don't give a shit if some guy can throw a ball through a hoop or run to an end-zone. That's not difficult. Now, maintaining proper form on a 1200lb free bar squat? You don't want to know the kind of training and dedication that takes. More than it takes to get a running back speedy, by far.

The core of the problem I think is that sports are divisive, whereas exercise is not.

Most of the other sports I consider to be too popularized - professional atheletes are overpaid, and over-revered. Plus, most of their training regimens put performance above personal health, which I don't care for at all.

Exercise > Sports.

And before you fly off the handle, realize I'm an Exercise and Sport Science major here at school...

No flying off the handle here. Its just that everything you listed that you like, are singular competitions. Bodybuilding, powerlifters, swimmers, and cyclists can certainly be part of a team, but can also compete singularly. This indicates your personality and a tendency to be anti-social and probably dont get along well with people in general. And theres nothing wrong with that. I know a lot of people like that. Sports are pointless to you. Great. They aren't pointless to me and I'm sure at least two other people.

The fact that you think those communities revolve around singular units shows how little you know of them. Every single group of bodybuilders and swimmers I've been around has been far more supportive of one another, even opponents, than any "team" I've ever been a part of. There's always this drive to be "the best on the team" or the "team captain". Amongst these "more singular" competitions, your opponent is yourself. It's a test of will and dedication more than skill, which is why I hold such activities in higher esteem.

As for your horribly inaccurate judging of my social life, I'll just let that sit as a completely uninformed opinion of a completely uninformed person on the topic at hand. It's funny how everyone suddenly becomes a doctor of psychology when they get on the internet.

I that last part a lot! You are very right about that whole doctor thing.