NV35 Benchmarks

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Lifer
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Thanks, TROGDORdBURNINATOR! It's nice to have more pro-ATi people here. I can't wait to get a 9600 PRO.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR

So, some people use Shuttle PCs and micro-ATX.

Right on, man! Small computers like the Shuttle XPC are becoming increasingly popular for gaming, and those people (like myself) are currently forced to use Radeon 9700 and 9800 series cards if they want to build a small high-end gaming system. It would be nice to see Nvidia offer some competition in this arena, but it's never going to happen if they keep producing high-end cards with these insane power and cooling requirements.

By the way, your username freakin' rocks! I love those Strong Bad e-mails!
 

Wolfsraider

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diversity is the spice of life

it won't hurt nvidia to make the card un-adaptable to mini pc's, at least not yet.
many folks won't be buying the latest and greatest video cards due to price not to mention the price of those smaller cases lol

soon there won't be pci slots made anymore and there goes that arguement,and there will always be something to argue over lol at least as long as the products are different yet do the same job ;)

i am not a nvidia fan but if they produce a card that beats the 9700 pro by the 1400 3dmark score (nope i am not a fan of 3dmark either lol) i saw then i will definately give that card a shot....i get 5200 on mine last time i checked,thats a severe increase in eye candy lol

mike
 

SexyK

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These 3dmark scores mean nothing to me. We've already seen that nVidia was optimizing for 3dmark03 in order to prove its uselessness as a benchmark. NV30 was a good performer in the test after a few optimizations, but the card was still getting killed in real gamin scenarios. That's all I care about, I want to see how the NV35 performs in UT2k3 and Splinter Cell, then I'll start to pass judgement.
 

MikeMike

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trogdor, do you work for ati?

everything seems to fit that you do.
the not speaking for my employeer, and Ontarion Canada

JW
 

PrinceXizor

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When can we expect REAL benchmarks? When is the NDA over? Today? How long will it tkae before some sites post reviews once the NDA is over?

P-X
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
trogdor, do you work for ati?

everything seems to fit that you do.
the not speaking for my employeer, and Ontarion Canada

JW
He doctored up his sig last night to remove the name of his employer (which was ATI) after we questioned his objectivity in regards to the FX 5900 Ultra in another thread.
 

Mem

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As a gamer 3DMark means nothing to me,I just want to see how well the NV35 performs in real games,the main changes I want to see is a quieter card ,the performance will be better then the NV30 but we really don`t know by how much at this time and AA/AF performance will be interesting to see,as for using PCI slot 1 area well I `m not bothered by that ,being I aways leave it empty anyway.


I`ve not read all the posts but there was some remarks to Nvidia drivers,all I can say is they have been rock solid for me for the last 3 years(as a heavy gamer) and stability with drivers is the main thing I want for gaming which`s really all I care about.I buy a video card to play games period not to see how well it does in 3Dmark or if it`s faster or slower then MR.xxx 3D card living next door.

Bottom line is if somebody buys an ATi card or Nvidia card you should respect their choice period.

We all should be glad that Nvidia & ATi are there still fighting, because right now they are the only two companies that are offering the gamer any real choices.

:)


:)




 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: Mem
Bottom line is if somebody buys an ATi card or Nvidia card you should respect their choice period.

We all should be glad that Nvidia & ATi are there still fighting, because right now they are the only two companies that are offering the gamer any real choices.
Very well said.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: Mem
Bottom line is if somebody buys an ATi card or Nvidia card you should respect their choice period.

We all should be glad that Nvidia & ATi are there still fighting, because right now they are the only two companies that are offering the gamer any real choices.
Very well said.

Yes, indeed. I wonder what it'll be like if another company tries coming into the 3D Graphics Card market...
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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I hope it performs nicely allowing me to get either Radeon 9700 Pro or whatever Nvidia is offering in my price range of about $200 +- $50.
 

MrMiyagi

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Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR
TROGDOR is quick to scorn Nvidia for driver cheating when ATI was caught doing the same thing a while ago

Just like everyone scorned ATI for it, nvidia gets its turn. Of course, our "cheat" only affected one game (not any games based on the same engine) Nvidia's FP precision crap affects anything DX9. I hope they learn from it like ATI did but I'm wondering exactly what they did to get that performance boost. I hope they learned...


Gotta agree with nourdmrolNMT1:

Not that I'm up and up on who cheated on what, but it sure sounds like when you say "OUR CHEAT..." you mean you are part of ATI. That, or ATI owners feel really close ;)
 

TROGDORdBURNINATOR

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He doctored up his sig last night to remove the name of his employer (which was ATI) after we questioned his objectivity in regards to the FX 5900 Ultra in another thread.

That's right. I felt that I was being attacked for it and that my points weren't being given their fair consideration because of it. After all, I don't think that it's that relevant. Besides, I was very grumpy that night and posted some things that I don't think I would have normally. I didn't want it to look bad for my employer either.

I'm a little suspicious of that hamster wheel motor fan and two slot design with the HUGE heatsink and what that says but then, I'm hearing some pretty positive things about the GPU and drivers so I'm hopefull that Nvidia can be competitive again.
 

astroview

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I'm a little suspicious of that hamster wheel motor fan and two slot design with the HUGE heatsink and what that says but then, I'm hearing some pretty positive things about the GPU and drivers so I'm hopefull that Nvidia can be competitive again.

sorry dude, but i got to say you don't sound to0 unbiased in the whole thread or in that quote :Q
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: MistaTastyCakes
Who cares if it takes two slots? Nobody uses the first PCI slot anyways. Or they shouldn't be at least.

As for the benchmarks, it seems when the NV35 is using the drivers made for it, it gives quite the nice edge :)

well, what if I have 6 PCI and use a Gigabit Ethernet card, a SCSi card, a dialup modem, a Firewire card, a Capture card and a extra USB hookup?

That's all 6! and definately no room for the FX
 

erikiksaz

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: MistaTastyCakes
Who cares if it takes two slots? Nobody uses the first PCI slot anyways. Or they shouldn't be at least.

As for the benchmarks, it seems when the NV35 is using the drivers made for it, it gives quite the nice edge :)

well, what if I have 6 PCI and use a Gigabit Ethernet card, a SCSi card, a dialup modem, a Firewire card, a Capture card and a extra USB hookup?

Then oh well? If you want the graphics badly enough, you'd find a place to put the extra USB ports.
 

Acanthus

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ostif.org
Originally posted by: erikiksaz
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: MistaTastyCakes
Who cares if it takes two slots? Nobody uses the first PCI slot anyways. Or they shouldn't be at least.

As for the benchmarks, it seems when the NV35 is using the drivers made for it, it gives quite the nice edge :)

well, what if I have 6 PCI and use a Gigabit Ethernet card, a SCSi card, a dialup modem, a Firewire card, a Capture card and a extra USB hookup?

Then oh well? If you want the graphics badly enough, you'd find a place to put the extra USB ports.

New mobos had Ethernet integrated, its almost a standard feature now. Also Most new cases have hookups for front USB headers. You can make room.
 

MrMiyagi

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The "Shuttle PCs and micro-ATX" is argument is nothing. I don't think anyone serious about comp building would put a pimp-ass card in a case like that. I guess unless your building a comp for your idiot friend who wants to hook it up to his 42"+ plasma TV to play Quake 4 (or something else that he doesn't realize won't be out for a long time). Also, if you can afford a $400-500 card, you prolly have a good enough mobo with alot of built in shiot that you don't need to worry 'bout PCI slots. If you don't, get a new mobo before you buy that vid card! :)

Sorry, common sense has someting to do with this fellas...
 

Harabecw

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TROG, you might get a little more respect if you stop making 100% nvidia bash posts.
Just chill hehe.
this coming from a happy 9700 user ;)
 

MrMiyagi

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I'm also coming from a standpoint of someone who's 1 week off from buying a 9800 pro...