Yeah but the basic family structure is 2 parents living together raising some unspecified number of kids. Marriage isn't a necessity there. Hell, the two parents don't even have to be sexually monogamous. They just have to live together and love each other.
Yeah but the basic family structure is 2 parents living together raising some unspecified number of kids. Marriage isn't a necessity there. Hell, the two parents don't even have to be sexually monogamous. They just have to live together and love each other.
Originally posted by: Kaido
Well there's a simple answer - man, on his own, eats pork rinds and pizza. Married men typically are fed a better diet
Lol. Well, in all seriousness, a man with a wife and children will probably take better care of himself than a man who is just on his own with no one to think of but himself. A "family man" has to think of the welfare of his family with respect to his own. A single man doesn't have those considerations.
And I would imagine that such a mindset-division becomes more obvious or pronounced as a man gets into his 50s and 60s and is no longer all that interested in impressing women (or is no longer all that impressive, either) and has lived a wild/crazy/bachelor-style life---versus the family man who has a more established schedule/home/environment because of his dependents.
Terzo
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One reason I can see is legal benefits. Such as if you're in the hospital and they'll only let family come in to see you. Or uhh...married people get tax benefits, right?
I know I intend to get married at some point; it isn't something I've ever really questioned. It's probably due to my upbringing (raised catholic, although I stopped going to church as soon as I got confirmed), and my mother's side of the family is Italian.
Now that I think about it, I don't see anything wrong with just living together, but the idea of marriage is so ingrained in me that I don't think I could ever live with someone without having an eventual goal of marriage.
I know I intend to get married at some point; it isn't something I've ever really questioned. It's probably due to my upbringing (raised catholic, although I stopped going to church as soon as I got confirmed), and my mother's side of the family is Italian.
Now that I think about it, I don't see anything wrong with just living together, but the idea of marriage is so ingrained in me that I don't think I could ever live with someone without having an eventual goal of marriage.
Tweak155
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Depends on your view of marriage.
Not to turn this into a religious thread, but you can't just live together in the bible's outline of marriage, and this is where marriage was derived from. So whether or not you are a religious person, it doesn't change where it originated.
Originally, it was between 1 man and 1 woman. And without tons of additional information, it is considered disrespectful (sinful if you want to go there...) to share a bed without having been married.
That being said, a majority of people (I'm speculating) ignore the origins and take it as what society has made it today (not how it originated). However, there are people that respect it for what it is and where it came from.
I expect flames from this but to head them off, I'm not going to answer any criticism. I am not intentionally stating anything as proven fact. This is my opinion.
RaistlinZ
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Originally posted by: ruu
Originally posted by: Kaido
Well there's a simple answer - man, on his own, eats pork rinds and pizza. Married men typically are fed a better diet
Lol. Well, in all seriousness, a man with a wife and children will probably take better care of himself than a man who is just on his own with no one to think of but himself. A "family man" has to think of the welfare of his family with respect to his own. A single man doesn't have those considerations.
And I would imagine that such a mindset-division becomes more obvious or pronounced as a man gets into his 50s and 60s and is no longer all that interested in impressing women (or is no longer all that impressive, either) and has lived a wild/crazy/bachelor-style life---versus the family man who has a more established schedule/home/environment because of his dependents.
I'm not too sure. Married men with children and a job have much less time to spend taking care of themselves, eating right, sleeping, etc. Single men have more free time to invest in personal wellness.
People may be financially independent, but hopefully this isn't the only bond in your marriage, seems to me if that's all you have, your doomed to failure.
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judasmachine
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I can see why people get married, what benefits and the union between two people, etc..
But men DEFINATELY get the short side of the stick, especially if the two people get divorced. For some reason, it seems that courts always take the women's side, no matter the reason for divorce.
I would just hope that the two people move in with eachother for a year or two, to see what that kind of life would be.
But men DEFINATELY get the short side of the stick, especially if the two people get divorced. For some reason, it seems that courts always take the women's side, no matter the reason for divorce.
I would just hope that the two people move in with eachother for a year or two, to see what that kind of life would be.
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: ruu
Originally posted by: Kaido
Well there's a simple answer - man, on his own, eats pork rinds and pizza. Married men typically are fed a better diet
Lol. Well, in all seriousness, a man with a wife and children will probably take better care of himself than a man who is just on his own with no one to think of but himself. A "family man" has to think of the welfare of his family with respect to his own. A single man doesn't have those considerations.
And I would imagine that such a mindset-division becomes more obvious or pronounced as a man gets into his 50s and 60s and is no longer all that interested in impressing women (or is no longer all that impressive, either) and has lived a wild/crazy/bachelor-style life---versus the family man who has a more established schedule/home/environment because of his dependents.
I'm not too sure. Married men with children and a job have much less time to spend taking care of themselves, eating right, sleeping, etc. Single men have more free time to invest in personal wellness.
Hmm, you have a good point.
Then again, a married man has a wife (and children) to also look after his welfare when he cannot. If a married man does get too busy like you said, his family members can help him look after himself. A single man only has himself.
FelixDeCat
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I frown upon the idea of baby mommas and baby daddys and therefore support marriage. Nothing is perfect in this world and it isnt for everyone, but I think marriage has an important purpose of helping to prevent one guy from impregnating several females looking for the right 'one'.
Well...What do you think the ultimate reason for marriage is? Not those reasons we choose to stop at when we explain marriage to ourselves, but the reasons for those reasons. If you look at the very source of most human actions you usually find something that no one wants to believe about humanity. I don't think marriage is any different.
Red Squirrel
No Lifer
Actually I'm not in the basement, too loud there (servers).
Trust me I'm dying to get out of my parents' house to be on my own, I just have to save up, and say I did get a GF the last place I want to bring her is home with my parents here lol. I need my own house and be settled before I even consider a GF. But I rather have full control of my life, but of course once I move out my mentality might totally change, so I rather just let that happen and go with whatever is meant to be. I'm a programmer tied to my projects, will be hard to find a girl that is ok with that. (if they even exist ) When I get into web hosting it will be even more different. I may live with my parents but I do an effort with my life to move up. Just hard to find a decent house these days.
Geekbabe
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The point of getting married?
Well around here the point is love
We're too old to have kids,wouldn't want kids even if we were younger. I don't expect him to
serve as my personal money tree,all a divorce would net either of us is a broken heart.
It's just about love sometimes people,it really is.
Well around here the point is love
We're too old to have kids,wouldn't want kids even if we were younger. I don't expect him to
serve as my personal money tree,all a divorce would net either of us is a broken heart.
It's just about love sometimes people,it really is.
0roo0roo
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theres less point now that theres a 50% divorce rate and the law hasn't caught up to the idea that women no longer are barred from work the need to support your old wife probably came from the idea that women had the moral responsibility of children. and that once their virtue was used up they'd have trouble getting remarried etc. load of stuff that doesn't apply anymore
the need to support your old wife probably came from the idea that women had the moral responsibility of children. and that once their virtue was used up they'd have trouble getting remarried etc. load of stuff that doesn't apply anymore
Baked
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For the alimony when you divorce another sucker of course.
LOL @ humans are monogamous. You sir, are WRONG. Human beings like many animals will find as many partners as they can find to ensure their genes past on to the next generation. By sticking to 1 partner, you're guaranteed to run into a deadbeat with inferior genes that will kill your offspring. Monogamy is a practice the "civilized" westerners made up, even though these same people cheat on their partner to plant/receive different genes from other partners.
LOL @ humans are monogamous. You sir, are WRONG. Human beings like many animals will find as many partners as they can find to ensure their genes past on to the next generation. By sticking to 1 partner, you're guaranteed to run into a deadbeat with inferior genes that will kill your offspring. Monogamy is a practice the "civilized" westerners made up, even though these same people cheat on their partner to plant/receive different genes from other partners.
wow Baked! I didn't know us 'easterners' didnt have marriage until your civilized western society brought it to us! tyvm for the info
Mo0o
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I wouldn't say there isn't some kind of stigma or prevelant social convention to get married. I think if you find a girl that's open to the idea of not getting married then by all means go right ahead. But I think the majority of girls still expect to get married if they're in a long term stable relationship. So if you counter with the idea that marriage is bogus because you risk losing 1/2 in a divorce, I dont think she's gonna like that very much. Essentially it's saying, I want to spend the rest of my life with you but... in case I actually dont I want to make the exit strategy quick and cheap
TridenT
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There is no point in getting married than just the psychological effect. Humans are not made to be monogamous and that is a well known thing. It's evolutionarily beneficial to have a man produce as many off spring as possible. If we were meant to be monogamous then a man would have his balls fall off or cease working after ejaculation for the first time.
If you live with someone for long enough, you are legally married. Forgot the term for it, but that's the way of things.
The problem is one of basic human nature.
Men are much more visual than women. To most guys, a woman's worth in a relationship is proportionate to her looks.
To women, a guy's money is important. It's extremely common for a total babe to go out with an ugly guy strictly because he has money. On the other hand, you will not find as high a percentage of men who are willing to go out with an unattractive female strictly because she's rich.
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