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allisolm

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3 dead, 3 wounded (one of those in critical condition) in Oklahoma City shooting. Happened in the Whiskey Barrel Saloon. Alcohol and guns. What could possibly go wrong? Hmm... looks like the possibly happened.

OK is a state where most people can carry open or concealed almost anywhere, but not in bars. Looks like the legality part made no difference here.

4/10/23 edit: OKC police have determined this was a fight between several biker gangs.

 
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3 dead, 3 wounded (one of those in critical condition) in Oklahoma City shooting. Happened in the Whiskey Barrel Saloon. Alcohol and guns. What could possibly go wrong? Hmm... looks like the possibly happened.

OK is a state where most people can carry open or concealed almost anywhere, but not in bars. Looks like the legality part made no difference here.


Well, looks like you need 'em in Bars too....solving this problem is so easy....
 

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6 including a police officer in downtown Louisville this morning. Shooter is down. Victims have all been taken to hospital. Don't know their condition yet.

edit: body/injured account amended to say at least four people were dead, and at least eight others were injured and transported to the hospital. 2 of the injured are police, one of them is critical. Shooter is dead. As eelw says below, shooter was a former employee.

 
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Yeah… wasn’t a matter of if, just a matter of when. My wife’s co-worker DM’d her that their building was locked down for 2 hours this morning. 2 blocks away…
 

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Bank wasn’t open yet. So unlikely to be a botched robbery. So sadly disgruntled former worker likely.

Edit press conference confirms former worker
 
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allisolm

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now is not the time to talk about gun control, thoughts and prayers, blah blah bullshit
Kentucky Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and his wife "send our prayers" and Kentucky Republican Rand Paul and his wife "are praying." A message to them - Hey, you guys, it's not helping!
 
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Bank wasn’t open yet. So unlikely to be a botched robbery. So sadly disgruntled former worker likely.

Edit press conference confirms former worker
Disgruntled former worker armed with an "AR-15-style rifle." Who'd have guessed?

 

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Shooter was 23 yr-old white male.. 3 officers wounded. The critical one was shot in the head but is out of surgery and in critical but stable condition. He had only been an officer for 10 days. :(

Jeez, what can make you be so disgruntled a worker as to shoot people when you're only 23?
 
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Apparently the shooter had been a summer intern for 3 yrs at that bank and was then kept on as a permanent employee and either had been or was about to be let go.. And he livestreamed the attack. :mad: He apparently left a note or notes that he was going to do this, but those may have been left this morning, I don't know.
 
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Another senseless murder of a 5 year old near me.



It’s time to be there for the parents of Eliyanah. Yesterday their family was traveling southbound on the 880 to the Outback restaurant in Milpitas for a family birthday dinner and were victims of gun violence. A bullet struck their 5-year-old daughter, and she passed away within 30 seconds of the incident. Investigators are doing their best to find out who did this.

""Eliyanah was a fun-loving little girl who loved life, had a giving heart, close with her three siblings, especially her brother who were 11 months apart. Both were so excited for Easter before the family was torn to pieces by this tragic event. Eliyanah would have been 6 on the 21st of April.

All we can do right now is rally together and help the family say goodbye to their little girl. Her parents thank everyone who has reached out and just ask for time as they heal."
 
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allisolm

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Teens and guns. This is what could possibly go wrong.

4 dead, more than 20 wounded in Dadeville, AL (pop about 3000) at a dance studio during a Sweet 16 birthday party. Edit: now they're saying 4 dead 15 wounded. 5 critical.
Edit: now they're saying at least 28 injured. I do not know if all those were shooting injuries.

That's about all I see out there so far information wise.

And, for anyone who is keeping score, this is the 162nd mass shooting in the country this year - that's in the last 106 days. 162 in 106 days. It's got to stop. We have to make it stop.


 
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eelw

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You mean 2A doesn't guarantee one mass shooting per person?
Right, with 1 in 5 involved or know someone involved in gun related crime and some people now involved in 2 mass shootings, yup perfectly normal.
 

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When you have more guns because of more gun violence then you create an extremely paranoid society and... paranoid people within that society. So dang much paranoia going on that stuff like THIS happens.
THIS being the cops at your door, and you are not sure if they are real cops, and so you bring your gun to the door, and then you open the door, and the cops see you and your gun, and then...... shoot you dead.
Legally and justifiably shoot your brains out, exactly as law enforcement training directs cops to do.
Guns not only create violence and death, guns also create a shit-load of public paranoia. And even massive amounts of paranoia within law enforcement as well. We are seeing more and more of this paranoia every day.

So you have your gun rights. And you have your gun(s). And you have your second amendment rights. And also, you have your paranoia. And that paranoia is what gets you killed, legally gunned down like a dog in the street by the legitimate police. Funny thing.... the 2nd amendment doesn't mention anything about the paranoia involved with gun rights. Hmmmm.... :confused_old:

THIS...
Farmington, New Mexico, police officers discussed whether they were at the right house moments before the door opened and they fatally shot an armed homeowner.


PS. Nice Bunny
 

allisolm

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When you have more guns because of more gun violence then you create an extremely paranoid society and... paranoid people within that society. So dang much paranoia going on that stuff like THIS happens.
THIS being the cops at your door, and you are not sure if they are real cops, and so you bring your gun to the door, and then you open the door, and the cops see you and your gun, and then...... shoot you dead.

And stuff like this happens:

A teenager was shot by a homeowner after going to the wrong house to pick up siblings

He went to 115th Street instead of 115th Terrace.



 

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Shooter was 23 yr-old white male.. 3 officers wounded. The critical one was shot in the head but is out of surgery and in critical but stable condition. He had only been an officer for 10 days. :(

Jeez, what can make you be so disgruntled a worker as to shoot people when you're only 23?
In his case being told he was being fired. It's often a tough pill to swallow. It's happened to me many times and I don't remember fantasizing about killing whoever decided to axe me. At 23 and living in a land where ability to kill whoever you want with alacrity and prejudice is considered a sacred right, you have this!
 
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