Not Wanting Kids Is Entirely Normal

[Saint Nick]

Correction, you broke it off, not we. And if this kid was so" fucking annoying" why are there pictures of the 2 of you laughing and having fun?

Take your squabble elsewhere. Lol. Real mature doing it on an internet forum.

 

[ImpulsE69]

So we went from "not wanting kids is entirely normal" to having kids is entirely not normal.

All I'm going to say to you anti child humpers is....

....I wish your parents thought just like you.

Too fuckin bad....too bad

LMAO. wow. Calm yourself breeder. (haha). Just because some of us choose to not have children doesn't mean people shouldn't have kids. I actually like kids, and they like me..for some reason..must be the candy and the unmarked van, but I digress...

I think much of the convo is pointed at the abundance of people having children that can't support them or don't actually want them anyway after they realize it's actually not a Cinderella story and it interferes with their fun time. There are plenty of good parents out there, and there are plenty of bad ones as well. You tend to only notice the bad ones, because those are the kids keying your cars and killing the neighborhood pets.

 

[waggy]

Call it selfish, but if I could afford to support a family on just my income then my opinion on the matter would be different. As it stands, the world is what it is

many people can survive on 1 income. they just choose not to. I bet your parents also had a small house, didn't have all the toys (lol many weren't invented unless you are like 17) etc.

i see many people buying 4k sq/ft houses (and its just 2 fucking people!), new cars every year, every fucking toy a adult can get, CC bills out the wazoo then they turn around and say they can't afford kids. well duh. you can't and maintain that style of living and that is ok if that is what you want.

It does take sacrifice. IF you don't want then fine. good for that you understand that so you don't mess up a child.

anyone that gets pissed at people who have kids or does not have kids are insane. there is no reason to. you having or not having kids has NO effect on me at all.

I think much of the convo is pointed at the abundance of people having children that can't support them or don't actually want them anyway after they realize it's actually not a Cinderella story and it interferes with their fun time. There are plenty of good parents out there, and there are plenty of bad ones as well. You tend to only notice the bad ones, because those are the kids keying your cars and killing the neighborhood pets.

oh good god this. I see many people that don't want to put the time in with the kids. Not just playing but sitting down and doing homework OR they do teh homework for the kid instead of makeing sure they know it.

you don't want kids? PLEASE don't have them then! my taxes are high enough i don't need to pay for kids you abandoned!

 

[Red Squirrel]

Always nice to know it's considered normal. I really don't want kids either. In fact I'm perfectly happy being single. Life is just so much simpler. People with kids or even just people who are married, tend to have the most complicated lives and don't have time for themselves. I just could not do it. Maybe when I'm older like in my 30's. People seem to do it so early now.

 

[waggy]

Maybe when I'm older like in my 30's. People seem to do it so early now.

i recommend that. i feel at 30 i still had the energy needed but i also had the maturity and patience needed.

at 24 or so? not really. i was to busy having fun. going camping and hiking or out riding my motorcycle. in essence just enjoying making good money and being young and dumb.

 

[JoeyP]

Correction, you broke it off, not we. And if this kid was so" fucking annoying" why are there pictures of the 2 of you laughing and having fun?

*grabs popcorn*
:whiste:

 

[highland145]

*grabs popcorn*
:whiste:

Yep. The shit, it's gettin there.......

 

[Vdubchaos]

Its a common thread now.

In my parents day having kids was viable because the economy was such that a dad would work and the women would stay home.

Is that why my wife has been stay at home mother for past 14 year?

It's is viable TODAY (it has been for us).

That was the norm and every middle class family could live a good life on one income.

I live a good life on ONE income and have been past 14 years.

You can't today, both parents have to work which means day care, which means more money which means lower quality of life.

Things change.

Call it selfish, but if I could afford to support a family on just my income then my opinion on the matter would be different. As it stands, the world is what it is

You are full of shit.

What it comes down to is, how much BS in your life are you willing to give up for your family.

To some Smartphones/eating out/getting a new car every few years and lattes is more important than family (which is fine by me, whatever floats that boat).

What it comes down to is a choice. If you want a family or if you don't (again to me both are perfectly fine).

If you do want it, you just have to adjust and go with it.

Trust me when I tell you this, there is NO such a thing as "being financially or mentally ready" to have a family.....it will never come.

Sometimes, things tend to have a way of working itself out without planning etc.

I'm the living proof of that (and no it wasn't/isn't easy).....NOTHING is.

LMAO. wow. Calm yourself breeder. (haha). Just because some of us choose to not have children doesn't mean people shouldn't have kids. I actually like kids, and they like me..for some reason..must be the candy and the unmarked van, but I digress...

I think much of the convo is pointed at the abundance of people having children that can't support them or don't actually want them anyway after they realize it's actually not a Cinderella story and it interferes with their fun time. There are plenty of good parents out there, and there are plenty of bad ones as well. You tend to only notice the bad ones, because those are the kids keying your cars and killing the neighborhood pets.

Correct, and I'm not disagreeing with that. Just with the generalization made earlier...it's BS and simply not true.

You think I could have supported my child when I was 19?

Do you think my parents "could" support me and my brother during 70s/80s communism Poland?

Not at all, but it worked out JUST fine.

 

[Ns1]

Trust me when I tell you this, there is NO such a thing as "being financially or mentally ready" to have a family.....it will never come.

I guess we have an inherent difference of opinion here - i would not try to raise a family on 30k/year but 150k/year no problem.

I also would not subject them to the standards of living I had as a kid.

 

[KeithTalent]

^ Why so angry Vdub? Must be the kids.

KT

 

[SP33Demon]

Correction, you broke it off, not we. And if this kid was so" fucking annoying" why are there pictures of the 2 of you laughing and having fun?

Oh sht, this is about to turn into an epic thread.

 

[KeithTalent]

I guess we have an inherent difference of opinion here - i would not try to raise a family on 30k/year but 150k/year no problem.

I also would not subject them to the standards of living I had as a kid.

All of this.

KT

 

[Thyra]

*grabs popcorn*
:whiste:

Lol, enjoy your popcorn, but there will not be a show.

 

[Thyra]

Oh sht, this is about to turn into an epic thread.

LOL

 

[Ns1]

Lol, enjoy your popcorn, but there will not be a show.

damnit.

 

[Vdubchaos]

^ Why so angry Vdub? Must be the kids.

KT

Your anger meter is off/broken.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I guess we have an inherent difference of opinion here - i would not try to raise a family on 30k/year but 150k/year no problem.

I also would not subject them to the standards of living I had as a kid.

Well, I've made 30k a year supported family of 2 (at the time) in one of the most expensive states to live in.

 

[Ns1]

Well, I've made 30k a year supported family of 2 (at the time) in one of the most expensive states to live in.

You're willing to raise your kids like that, I'm not.

There is the difference. I'm not bashing your decision or anything, I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

 

[AMDZen]

You are full of shit.

What it comes down to is, how much BS in your life are you willing to give up for your family.

To some Smartphones/eating out/getting a new car every few years and lattes is more important than family (which is fine by me, whatever floats that boat).

What it comes down to is a choice. If you want a family or if you don't (again to me both are perfectly fine).

If you do want it, you just have to adjust and go with it.

Trust me when I tell you this, there is NO such a thing as "being financially or mentally ready" to have a family.....it will never come.

Sometimes, things tend to have a way of working itself out without planning etc.

I'm the living proof of that (and no it wasn't/isn't easy).....NOTHING is.



Correct, and I'm not disagreeing with that. Just with the generalization made earlier...it's BS and simply not true.

You think I could have supported my child when I was 19?

Do you think my parents "could" support me and my brother during 70s/80s communism Poland?

Not at all, but it worked out JUST fine.

I am full of shit??? LOL

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean I can. Most people I know can't, and I know for a fact that I certainly cant. Quit acting like you know me or really anybody in my same position.

If you are seriously going to sit there and argue that its not different now than it used to be, everything is different in this day and age, then you are the one who is full of shit. Median incomes around the nation has dropped substantially, and most people aren't making enough to support a family on their own.

 

[Thyra]

damnit.

did not come here to fight, I still love my b/f

 

[MarkXIX]

No need to have sex then. Castrate yourself and live life as a eunuch. Why should you get to have fun having sex for no good reason while the rest of us had fun and had kids as punishment for our crimes.

Despite how hard it is being a parent at times, I would not roll back the clock on having my kids ever. Love those little punks, they bring spice to life for sure. Sure, Crunch Berries are awesome all by themselves, they're better early on a Saturday with your own creations to share them with.

 

[rh71]

"you never know until you try" imo. It's just too bad for many there is no try before you buy.

Prior to kids, I held my dog up on a pedestal and loved it with everything I had. Then I had kids. The dog was so beyond second place that I couldn't believe it in my heart myself.

 

[chin311]

My wife and I have a agreement. If ether one of us wants kids we will get a divorce. That's how much we are sure neither of us want kids.

my wife and I established this before we even were "dating". I go out of my way to avoid kids, oh you are bringing your rug-rats to dinner too? I'll pass, catch you next time.

I could careless if it's considered normal or not because it ain't happening either way!

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

No need to have sex then. Castrate yourself and live life as a eunuch. Why should you get to have fun having sex for no good reason while the rest of us had fun and had kids as punishment for our crimes.

Despite how hard it is being a parent at times, I would not roll back the clock on having my kids ever. Love those little punks, they bring spice to life for sure. Sure, Crunch Berries are awesome all by themselves, they're better early on a Saturday with your own creations to share them with.

I can certainly respect that perspective, and I'll admit that there is a sliver of me that goes "yeah that could be enjoyable." But I also know that there are so many of the other times that do NOT sound enjoyable to me.

And I like having my wanton sex with whomever I want (provided they want to too haha), whenever I want, wherever (legally) I want punishment free!

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

"you never know until you try" imo. Prior to kids, I held my dog up on a pedestal and loved it with everything I had. Then I had kids. The dog was so beyond second place that I couldn't believe it in my heart myself.

And what if that's not true for me? Then I'm stuck with a life long commitment I don't want as the article talks about. That's not fair to the kid(s), not healthy for them or myself, and I think we can all agree would not be a good environment for anybody.