Not Wanting Kids Is Entirely Normal

[AdamK47]

Personally I think people are just more selfish nowadays and struggle a lot more with the concept of giving up their freedoms and lifestyle to raise a child. It's all about them, they can't give it up and make a child their top priority.

Their selfish because they won't flip that baby making switch and pop more people into this world? Cultures, particulaly in China and India, have ingrained it into people from an early age that procreation is their top prioity in life. Having the freedoms and lifestyle you mentioned promotes the critical independant thinking where there is the realisation that having a child is an option not a top priority. I choose to opt out.

 

[ichy]

To have kids would mean a massive reduction in my standard of living. Goodbye living in the city. Hello commute. Goodbye vacations and just about everything I enjoy in life. All for what? To be stressed out all the time because my "heart" is now outside of myself, running around, falling down, etc.

Same here. I might feel differently about kids if I were really loaded and could afford to outsource all the shitty parts of parenting. That's not really an option though.

 

[darkxshade]

I notice that grandparents love to have grand children. Maybe it's because they get the reward without having as much of the responsibilities. Or maybe at their old age, it's the best time to raise a child having lived past their prime.

I wonder if I can rent out children to the elderly?

 

[Juddog]

Same here. I might feel differently about kids if I were really loaded and could afford to outsource all the shitty parts of parenting. That's not really an option though.

Sadly I partially feel that way too; if I had more money, to be honest, I'd probably have kids. Everything is so damn expensive these days and it's hard just to survive, let alone dump another $25k a year per mini-me.

 

[Vdubchaos]

playing with all that cool stuff in your sig is ALOT harder with kids.

Not really, they actually play with me.

and "cool" stuff or anything materialistic means nothing to me.

 

[AMDZen]

The problem is that people that don't want kids are the ones who should be having them. Responsible, well educated and well employed people whom just choose not to deal with them.

Meanwhile, the lowest forms of humanity are churning them out like rabbits.

 

[Vdubchaos]

The problem is that people that don't want kids are the ones who should be having them. Responsible, well educated and well employed people whom just choose not to deal with them.

Meanwhile, the lowest forms of humanity are churning them out like rabbits.

Yea, that's a great generalization there buddy.

 

[Juddog]

I actually had this thought the other day: why not offer a purchase system for good DNA?

In other words, a sperm bank which offered deals on high grade characteristics. Take for example that kid that had huge amounts of muscle growth from the point where he was a baby, and at the age of 4 was already able to hold an iron cross position. Body has almost no fat, is super strong from the get-go.

This would be like "designer DNA" where parents could shoot for particular characteristics that they wanted: big brains, big muscles, super flexibility, super dexterity. They could buy the sperm / eggs online and have it implanted by a physician of their choice. Gradually the human race would lose much of it's "garbage" DNA and the species would become genetically better in huge strides every generation.

 

[tommo123]

Personally I think people are just more selfish nowadays and struggle a lot more with the concept of giving up their freedoms and lifestyle to raise a child. It's all about them, they can't give it up and make a child their top priority.

why is destroying your life to provide for a person that doesn't exist yet selfish? if you really really want kids and don't adopt then that's selfish. you're basically saying "i wan't kids, but none of these reject ones. i want one in mint condition with that new vagina smell" :whiste:

anyhoo - i don't want kids and i won't. i like freedom and enjoying my spare time

 

[JoeyP]

Does anyone here without kids think about a legacy? This could be a financial gift to a hospital or church or arts center or library, or maybe you tutor kids, or help people in need by volunteering...

I'm just thinking after you die, do you care about leaving something intangible behind to make the world a better place, even on a small level?

As a parent (and I think most parents feel this way), I'd like to have my kids become good members of society, and help others in a positive way. It's really up to them if they want to do that, and to what extent, since they are individuals, but it will give me some sense of peace knowing that I'm leaving a few good people behind to help out after I'm gone.

 

[tommo123]

Does anyone here without kids think about a legacy? This could be a financial gift to a hospital or church or arts center or library, or maybe you tutor kids, or help people in need by volunteering...

I'm just thinking after you die, do you care about leaving something intangible behind to make the world a better place, even on a small level?

As a parent (and I think most parents feel this way), I'd like to have my kids become good members of society, and help others in a positive way. It's really up to them if they want to do that, and to what extent, since they are individuals, but it will give me some sense of peace knowing that I'm leaving a few good people behind to help out after I'm gone.

they'll be dead soon enough anyway so in a practical sense you're not leaving anything behind.

 

[sourceninja]

I actually had this thought the other day: why not offer a purchase system for good DNA?

In other words, a sperm bank which offered deals on high grade characteristics. Take for example that kid that had huge amounts of muscle growth from the point where he was a baby, and at the age of 4 was already able to hold an iron cross position. Body has almost no fat, is super strong from the get-go.

This would be like "designer DNA" where parents could shoot for particular characteristics that they wanted: big brains, big muscles, super flexibility, super dexterity. They could buy the sperm / eggs online and have it implanted by a physician of their choice. Gradually the human race would lose much of it's "garbage" DNA and the species would become genetically better in huge strides every generation.

And we get a bonus! With less genetic diversity we run the risk of being wiped out by a single pathogen!

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

If you're sure you don't want kids, please get snipped so that you don't make any. Last thing we need are more kids born to people who don't want to be parents.

Completely agree.

And done.

I don't want kids. Dogs only plz.

x2

Meh. I'm 32 now and have never wanted them.

To have kids would mean a massive reduction in my standard of living. Goodbye living in the city. Hello commute. Goodbye vacations and just about everything I enjoy in life. All for what? To be stressed out all the time because my "heart" is now outside of myself, running around, falling down, etc.

I don't care if you call me selfish. I'm happier. And I don't subscribe to the mantra that following the sheeple makes one happy.

I'm almost 26 and I'm the same. My coworker talks about his 3 kids and how he gets no sleep or they stress him out or whatever. I tell him all the time, "you know, you talking about no sleep and the rest of that stuff just tells me I'm making the right choice with not wanting kids." He says he loves his kids and wouldn't trade them in for the sleep and other stuff, and I'm still young. Yeah I am, but I'm dead set on no kids. Hence the vasectomy. I want to be able to take an expensive trip if I want. Or to buy a nice car/house/whatever. I commend those who want to give their lives to raising children and being parents. I, like others, would rather spend my short time on this planet enjoying the wonders of this world. Go travel the world. Come home to a relaxing environment that I can relax in. I can go to a comedy show, or other shows if I want, without the hassle of finding a baby sitter.

Not to mention it's much easier to bring home others for threesomes or group stuff with my girl if we want

 

[KeithTalent]

Does anyone here without kids think about a legacy? This could be a financial gift to a hospital or church or arts center or library, or maybe you tutor kids, or help people in need by volunteering...

I'm just thinking after you die, do you care about leaving something intangible behind to make the world a better place, even on a small level?

As a parent (and I think most parents feel this way), I'd like to have my kids become good members of society, and help others in a positive way. It's really up to them if they want to do that, and to what extent, since they are individuals, but it will give me some sense of peace knowing that I'm leaving a few good people behind to help out after I'm gone.

Legacy is not something I ever think or care about, aside from leaving a few bucks for whomever is my closest loved one at the time I die. I try to be a good person, but it has nothing to do with legacy, it's just trying to do, in general, what is right and not fuck things up too badly for those around me. What happens after I die is pretty much irrelevant, since, um, I will be dead.

KT

 

[AMDZen]

Yea, that's a great generalization there buddy.

And also very true

Guy

 

[Saint Nick]

Yea, that's a great generalization there buddy.

Stereotypes exist for a reason buddy.

 

[KeithTalent]

The problem is that people that don't want kids are the ones who should be having them. Responsible, well educated and well employed people whom just choose not to deal with them.

Meanwhile, the lowest forms of humanity are churning them out like rabbits.

My Mom said this to us a little while ago. Like since, as relatively well-off, educated people, we have an obligation to procreate.

I told her we don't have time for kids. She was not a huge fan of that answer.

KT

 

[Vdubchaos]

So we went from "not wanting kids is entirely normal" to having kids is entirely not normal.

All I'm going to say to you anti child humpers is....

....I wish your parents thought just like you.

Too fuckin bad....too bad

 

[Ns1]

So we went from "not wanting kids is entirely normal" to having kids is entirely not normal.

All I'm going to say to you anti child humpers is....

....I wish your parents thought just like you.

Too fuckin bad....too bad

The anti child humpers recognize that the rest of the world has no problem picking up our slack.

 

[JoeyP]

What happens after I die is pretty much irrelevant, since, um, I will be dead.

KT

Irrelevant to you, but how about society? When I die, I hope to leave enough money for my survivors to become or stay secure financially, and also enough so that an anonymous donation can make its way to the charity of our choice.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I want kids, but I don't want a spouse telling me how to raise the kids. I want them to be all mine, my own little personal social experiments. I spend most of my days looking back on the failures in my life and how I could micromanage them to the point of absolute perfection. Except one, who I would seclude from the rest of my 20-odd experiments and carefully teach the ways of being a serial killer.

 

[Imported]

Irrelevant to you, but how about society? When I die, I hope to leave enough money for my survivors to become or stay secure financially, and also enough so that an anonymous donation can make its way to the charity of our choice.

I'm selfish. If I die and have enough money to donate to charity, I was doing something wrong. :whiste:

Edit: Anything I do have would go to my sisters/brothers kids anyways.

 

[KeithTalent]

Irrelevant to you, but how about society? When I die, I hope to leave enough money for my survivors to become or stay secure financially, and also enough so that an anonymous donation can make its way to the charity of our choice.

Yeah, but that's just financial planning. I will be leaving something for whomever is closest to me, or if nobody is, then it will be going to a local charity.

I was going off what most people mean when they talk about legacy, like having their name on a building, or keeping their bloodline going or some such irrelevant nonsense. That is the stuff I could not care less about.

KT

 

[AMDZen]

So we went from "not wanting kids is entirely normal" to having kids is entirely not normal.

All I'm going to say to you anti child humpers is....

....I wish your parents thought just like you.

Too fuckin bad....too bad

Its a common thread now.

In my parents day having kids was viable because the economy was such that a dad would work and the women would stay home.

That was the norm and every middle class family could live a good life on one income.

You can't today, both parents have to work which means day care, which means more money which means lower quality of life.

Things change.

Call it selfish, but if I could afford to support a family on just my income then my opinion on the matter would be different. As it stands, the world is what it is

 

[Thyra]

I'm 43 and don't have kids. I don't want them and have never wanted them. In fact, I pretty much hate ever having to deal with kids and do it as infrequently as I can.

My g/f (guess I should stop calling her that, we're breaking up) has a kid, and that kid can be fucking annoying at times (often).

Correction, you broke it off, not we. And if this kid was so" fucking annoying" why are there pictures of the 2 of you laughing and having fun?