Not the ACORN I knew...

[aphex]

CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

I missed those. I would LOVE to see the citations. Anyone making that kind of statement... string them up. Care to dig up some linkage?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

Go look up those threads.

This one is about ACORN and it's voter fraud.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Ballatician
Someone explain to me how those fake voter registrations will actually affect the election? It's not like a non-existent person can actually cast a ballot.

Never heard of Chicago, have you?

It's not like this is 1960 and Illinois is a battleground state.

That's a dumb argument. Just because the state isn't a battleground or the fraud doesn't affect the outcome, it is okay to commit voter registration fraud?

Isn't there anything Obama supporters won't say or do to justify their support? That's the thing that bugs me most about Obama. His supporters are just blind and give Obama a pass on any and everything.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

I missed those. I would LOVE to see the citations. Anyone making that kind of statement... string them up. Care to dig up some linkage?

Ask and ye shall receive;

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05...=5007&partner=USERLAND

Mr. O'Dell drew criticism of his company in August when he sent an invitation to a fund-raising party that said, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." He said he had not written it himself, though he declined to say who had, and intended only to sign a "party invitation."

- From 2004

As for negative votes, wasn't just FL I guess (I recall seeing an article on Washington Post, but I can't find it in the archives. Looking for better sources)
http://www4.vindy.com/basic/news/281829446390855.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volusia_error

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

Go look up those threads.

This one is about ACORN and it's voter fraud.

You can't take one without the other, its all about the voting process and how effective it is at reflecting the truth.

 

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

I missed those. I would LOVE to see the citations. Anyone making that kind of statement... string them up. Care to dig up some linkage?

Ask and ye shall receive;

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05...=5007&partner=USERLAND

Mr. O'Dell drew criticism of his company in August when he sent an invitation to a fund-raising party that said, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." He said he had not written it himself, though he declined to say who had, and intended only to sign a "party invitation."

- From 2004

As for negative votes, wasn't just FL I guess (I recall seeing an article on Washington Post, but I can't find it in the archives. Looking for better sources)
http://www4.vindy.com/basic/news/281829446390855.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volusia_error

What does this have to do with the current topic?

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

I missed those. I would LOVE to see the citations. Anyone making that kind of statement... string them up. Care to dig up some linkage?

Ask and ye shall receive;

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05...=5007&partner=USERLAND

Mr. O'Dell drew criticism of his company in August when he sent an invitation to a fund-raising party that said, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." He said he had not written it himself, though he declined to say who had, and intended only to sign a "party invitation."

- From 2004

As for negative votes, wasn't just FL I guess (I recall seeing an article on Washington Post, but I can't find it in the archives. Looking for better sources)
http://www4.vindy.com/basic/news/281829446390855.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volusia_error

What does this have to do with the current topic?

Isnt the topic about problems/fraud in the voting process? I wanted to know if he was as concerned with voting issues in the previous elections when the questions were raised.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Ballatician
Someone explain to me how those fake voter registrations will actually affect the election? It's not like a non-existent person can actually cast a ballot.

Never heard of Chicago, have you?

It's not like this is 1960 and Illinois is a battleground state.

That's a dumb argument. Just because the state isn't a battleground or the fraud doesn't affect the outcome, it is okay to commit voter registration fraud?

Isn't there anything Obama supporters won't say or do to justify their support? That's the thing that bugs me most about Obama. His supporters are just blind and give Obama a pass on any and everything.

I didn't say anything even remotely like that. Do you always make up other posters' arguments this way?

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Nuch ado about nothing? Coast to coast fraudulent activity? Enterprise-wide corruption? At best ACORN management neglects its duties. That doesnt sound like nothing to me.

Republican organization committing vote fraud? Okay... prove it. I am more than happy to throw them under the bus too.

PS: Proof isnt a Rolling Stone article, some kook website, etc. Show me a major media new story that has a conviction, a probe that yielded results, hell even an investigation by public officials. So far I havent been shown it, and everytime I ask, I get some bullshit answer that deflects from the question... or "its not the preponderance of evidence but the serioiusness of the charge" bullshit.

Well, ACORN has both serious charges and evidence of fraud... and now someone trying to vite because of ACORN fraud. That is another popular argument to ignore ACORN's activities... its just poor idiot employees trying to pad their paychecks. Really? This guy tried to commit voter fraud based on ACORN registrations.

Please. A Rolling Stone article isn't good enough for you, but I'm sure if Sean Hannity said it, you'd be all over it. You after all believe there's a massive media conspiracy at the highest levels spreading misinformation to help liberals. Tell you what - I'm going to dismiss any information I see on ACORN as a massive media conspiracy against liberals. Damn, it's fun being able to cherry pick my news!

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Originally posted by: Genx87
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Ha time for some tissues I see. When you run home are you going to take the ball with you?

Heh, the only tissue's needed are to clean up the drool of the floor from you people salivating over this hoping it "sticks" to Obama.

the nerve of that maverick "pallin" around with "socialists"

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Ballatician

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Ballatician
Someone explain to me how those fake voter registrations will actually affect the election? It's not like a non-existent person can actually cast a ballot.

The vast majority of these fake voter registrations never get a ballot to cast anyway. Elections officials tend to do pretty good due diligence in cleaning out the voter rolls. If they didn't, we wouldn't even know about this issue, now would we?

Which is why this topic is useless.

Yeah, discussing and pointing out voter fraud is "useless". :roll:

No, it's voter registration fraud. There's a difference. Other than the one example you cited, which seems more a product of his own intent to defraud the system vs. ACORN's intent. I mean the one example you cite doesn't seem to have any connection to ACORN

But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.

So he breezed in on his own? Or did he have an ACORN escort? :laugh:

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Ballatician
Someone explain to me how those fake voter registrations will actually affect the election? It's not like a non-existent person can actually cast a ballot.

Never heard of Chicago, have you?

It's not like this is 1960 and Illinois is a battleground state.

It's not like voter fraud in Chicago hasn't been happening for the last 48 years either. It's just something the Dems conveniently like to overlook. I'll grant you Illinois

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Topic Title: Not the ACORN I knew...

The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Awesome, bout time Dems learned from the Republicans with their criminal tactics and beat them at their own game :thumbsup:

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Topic Title: Not the ACORN I knew...

The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Awesome, bout time Dems learned from the Republicans with their criminal tactics and beat them at their own game :thumbsup:

Woah...that Obama kool-aid must be some strong shit.

 

[ohnoes]

How many organizations does a campaign work with? Is it feasible for a campaign to do a background check on every organization it works with?

 

[First]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite
Another duuuuuhversion from CAD, what a surprise.

Another troll by cliftonite, what a surprise.


Don't you ever participate in threads....or do you just go around trolling in them?

You call this thread of yours "participation"? Well, I guess coming from the guy that mocks people for using financial definitions of terms in finance discussions, this isn't surprising. :laugh:

Good god you're sad. Fred Thompson FTW!

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: jbourne77
The same people who cried about Cindy McCain's dress are trying to convince us that ACORN is the emptiest argument this cycle? Sorry. Don't think so.

pics? I'm not aware of this issue.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: jbourne77
The same people who cried about Cindy McCain's dress are trying to convince us that ACORN is the emptiest argument this cycle? Sorry. Don't think so.

pics? I'm not aware of this issue.

Because it wasn't one. Some people don't bother with that step of "thinking" before posting nonsense.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: aphex
CAD: Just curious, were you this up in arms when the Diebold CEO made the statement that he would deliver the election to Bush? Or when voting machines in FL counted negative votes for a candidate?

Go look up those threads.

This one is about ACORN and it's voter fraud.

You can't take one without the other, its all about the voting process and how effective it is at reflecting the truth.

Again, go look up the threads.

This one however is specifically about ACORN and it's fraud.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite
Another duuuuuhversion from CAD, what a surprise.

Another troll by cliftonite, what a surprise.


Don't you ever participate in threads....or do you just go around trolling in them?

You call this thread of yours "participation"? Well, I guess coming from the guy that mocks people for using financial definitions of terms in finance discussions, this isn't surprising. :laugh:

Good god you're sad. Fred Thompson FTW!

Hey look another troll posting nada... Care to talk about ACORN? No? then please exit.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Nuch ado about nothing? Coast to coast fraudulent activity? Enterprise-wide corruption? At best ACORN management neglects its duties. That doesnt sound like nothing to me.

Republican organization committing vote fraud? Okay... prove it. I am more than happy to throw them under the bus too.

PS: Proof isnt a Rolling Stone article, some kook website, etc. Show me a major media new story that has a conviction, a probe that yielded results, hell even an investigation by public officials. So far I havent been shown it, and everytime I ask, I get some bullshit answer that deflects from the question... or "its not the preponderance of evidence but the serioiusness of the charge" bullshit.

Well, ACORN has both serious charges and evidence of fraud... and now someone trying to vite because of ACORN fraud. That is another popular argument to ignore ACORN's activities... its just poor idiot employees trying to pad their paychecks. Really? This guy tried to commit voter fraud based on ACORN registrations.

Please. A Rolling Stone article isn't good enough for you, but I'm sure if Sean Hannity said it, you'd be all over it. You after all believe there's a massive media conspiracy at the highest levels spreading misinformation to help liberals. Tell you what - I'm going to dismiss any information I see on ACORN as a massive media conspiracy against liberals. Damn, it's fun being able to cherry pick my news!

Okay... you do that. Nevermind Rolling Stone is not a news organization. Someone above linked to the New York Times. They have my attention as they linked to "agruably" a credible news source. You dont get my attention because, well, you are an ass with his head in the sand.

PS: Not a fan of Hannity. I dont necessarily disagree with his politics, but he cant argue for shit.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Nuch ado about nothing? Coast to coast fraudulent activity? Enterprise-wide corruption? At best ACORN management neglects its duties. That doesnt sound like nothing to me.

Republican organization committing vote fraud? Okay... prove it. I am more than happy to throw them under the bus too.

PS: Proof isnt a Rolling Stone article, some kook website, etc. Show me a major media new story that has a conviction, a probe that yielded results, hell even an investigation by public officials. So far I havent been shown it, and everytime I ask, I get some bullshit answer that deflects from the question... or "its not the preponderance of evidence but the serioiusness of the charge" bullshit.

Well, ACORN has both serious charges and evidence of fraud... and now someone trying to vite because of ACORN fraud. That is another popular argument to ignore ACORN's activities... its just poor idiot employees trying to pad their paychecks. Really? This guy tried to commit voter fraud based on ACORN registrations.

Please. A Rolling Stone article isn't good enough for you, but I'm sure if Sean Hannity said it, you'd be all over it. You after all believe there's a massive media conspiracy at the highest levels spreading misinformation to help liberals. Tell you what - I'm going to dismiss any information I see on ACORN as a massive media conspiracy against liberals. Damn, it's fun being able to cherry pick my news!

Okay... you do that. Nevermind Rolling Stone is not a news organization. Someone above linked to the New York Times. They have my attention as they linked to "agruably" a credible news source. You dont get my attention because, well, you are an ass with his head in the sand.

PS: Not a fan of Hannity. I dont necessarily disagree with his politics, but he cant argue for shit.

It's great being accused of having my head in the sand by a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist that thinks the media is in cahoots to distort the news for liberals. Great stuff.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: ohnoes
How many organizations does a campaign work with? Is it feasible for a campaign to do a background check on every organization it works with?

I am not sure if you are sincerely asking, so I will say this...

How many organizations are you sending checks in excess of $800m? Think it might be fiscally responsible to check out an organization that you are sending nearly $1 million to? You dont necessarily have to check them all, but shit, $800m gets my attention quick. And dont think that this "affiliate" of ACORN crap is a cover. They lied to the FEC about what the organization was doing... they KNEW they had to cover it up.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Nuch ado about nothing? Coast to coast fraudulent activity? Enterprise-wide corruption? At best ACORN management neglects its duties. That doesnt sound like nothing to me.

Republican organization committing vote fraud? Okay... prove it. I am more than happy to throw them under the bus too.

PS: Proof isnt a Rolling Stone article, some kook website, etc. Show me a major media new story that has a conviction, a probe that yielded results, hell even an investigation by public officials. So far I havent been shown it, and everytime I ask, I get some bullshit answer that deflects from the question... or "its not the preponderance of evidence but the serioiusness of the charge" bullshit.

Well, ACORN has both serious charges and evidence of fraud... and now someone trying to vite because of ACORN fraud. That is another popular argument to ignore ACORN's activities... its just poor idiot employees trying to pad their paychecks. Really? This guy tried to commit voter fraud based on ACORN registrations.

Please. A Rolling Stone article isn't good enough for you, but I'm sure if Sean Hannity said it, you'd be all over it. You after all believe there's a massive media conspiracy at the highest levels spreading misinformation to help liberals. Tell you what - I'm going to dismiss any information I see on ACORN as a massive media conspiracy against liberals. Damn, it's fun being able to cherry pick my news!

Okay... you do that. Nevermind Rolling Stone is not a news organization. Someone above linked to the New York Times. They have my attention as they linked to "agruably" a credible news source. You dont get my attention because, well, you are an ass with his head in the sand.

PS: Not a fan of Hannity. I dont necessarily disagree with his politics, but he cant argue for shit.

It's great being accused of having my head in the sand by a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist that thinks the media is in cahoots to distort the news for liberals. Great stuff.

I dont like Rolling Stone magazine... but I am okay reading the NY Times... and you think that makes me ANTI-media? NY Times is about as liberal as they come. Doesnt mean I dont read it an consider it. I, however, wont get my news from an entertainment publication that airbrushed Al Gore's crotch.