Not the ACORN I knew...

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....

LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

So you think it's good judgement to distance AFTER it became a political hot potato? Sorry, but good judgement would have been to never get involved, never pay them almost a million dollars of your campaign money, repudiate their tactics concerning voter fraud. Yeah... he has good judgement... :roll:

So you are saying that that ACORN was corrupt from the get go and that it was obvious to Obama in his dealings with them? Do you have proof of this?

The corruption/fraud isn't something brand new. It doesn't take a genius to figure out BHO should have ended his dealings with them LONG before running for President.

It's not that big of a deal as he wasn't directly involved nor did he encourage it. I do agree that it would have been better for him to distance himself earlier but that would have been just for political convenience which is what you are criticizing him for now.

Too bad he really could have used your support but now because of this I take it that you, GenX and Cleveland aren't going to vote for him:roll:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Nuch ado about nothing? Coast to coast fraudulent activity? Enterprise-wide corruption? At best ACORN management neglects its duties. That doesnt sound like nothing to me.

Republican organization committing vote fraud? Okay... prove it. I am more than happy to throw them under the bus too.

PS: Proof isnt a Rolling Stone article, some kook website, etc. Show me a major media new story that has a conviction, a probe that yielded results, hell even an investigation by public officials. So far I havent been shown it, and everytime I ask, I get some bullshit answer that deflects from the question... or "its not the preponderance of evidence but the serioiusness of the charge" bullshit.

Well, ACORN has both serious charges and evidence of fraud... and now someone trying to vite because of ACORN fraud. That is another popular argument to ignore ACORN's activities... its just poor idiot employees trying to pad their paychecks. Really? This guy tried to commit voter fraud based on ACORN registrations.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

As do yours as a BHO apologist and fluffer.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....

LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

So you think it's good judgement to distance AFTER it became a political hot potato? Sorry, but good judgement would have been to never get involved, never pay them almost a million dollars of your campaign money, repudiate their tactics concerning voter fraud. Yeah... he has good judgement... :roll:

So you are saying that that ACORN was corrupt from the get go and that it was obvious to Obama in his dealings with them? Do you have proof of this?

The corruption/fraud isn't something brand new. It doesn't take a genius to figure out BHO should have ended his dealings with them LONG before running for President.

It's not that big of a deal as he wasn't directly involved nor did he encourage it. I do agree that it would have been better for him to distance himself earlier but that would have been just for political convenience which is what you are criticizing him for now.

Too bad he really could have used your support but now because of this I take it that you, GenX and Cleveland aren't going to vote for him:roll:

If McCain had been involved with the same organization acting on his behalf? Please, this board would lynch McCain for even knowing the janitor at ACORN if they were working on his behalf.

No, I cannot vote for a man who either a) has no core convictions, or b) has core convictions so radical he dare not let them out in the light of day. Ironically, this may keep me from voting in this election for President as neither of these boobs have what it takes... too bad we will be saddled with one or the other.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

As do yours as a BHO apologist and fluffer.

He's fluffing BHO? Ummm... ew?

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

exposes??? dude I am not hiding behind anything... I am not a num nut liberal like you - i openly acknowledge that I am strictly against BHO. you can find it in any of my posts... at least post something that makes sense. You post actually exposes how you reached 46k posts

 

[TheSlamma]

He is distancing himself from an organization practicing things he doesn't support?!?! WTF!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
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As do yours as a BHO apologist and fluffer.

He's fluffing BHO? Ummm... ew?[/quote]

Cad's projecting his own homoerotic fantasies. I guess he doesn't realize that we have a forum for that called L&R.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....

LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

Actually, what you did was instead of address the issue, you fell back to your regular reaction of bashing McCain. Looks like someone has a worse case of MDS than their own BDS.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

hehe, yeah, at least Obama knows what's good for him politically, just like he distanced himself from Wright only when the news hit it big. McCain just don't get how to be a good politician and get with the program, like the surge, like sticking with Palin and pretty much everything else.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

exposes??? dude I am not hiding behind anything... I am not a num nut liberal like you - i openly acknowledge that I am strictly against BHO. you can find it in any of my posts... at least post something that makes sense. You post actually exposes how you reached 46k posts

No I agree, you aren't hiding the fact that you are an extreme nutcase which seems to make up a lot of McCain/Palin supporters from your neck of the woods.

Here's another glowing example of your ignorance and stupidity

Wake up before its too late and realize the reality of you drug addict, terrorist, black Muslim master who taking donation from foreign countries and who knows, maybe terrorist nations too and buying up ½ an hour of all major TV channel time to cloud the judgment of American people.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....

LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

Actually, what you did was instead of address the issue, you fell back to your regular reaction of bashing McCain. Looks like someone has a worse case of MDS than their own BDS.

What ever Rush:laugh::roll:

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???

Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner

What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

exposes??? dude I am not hiding behind anything... I am not a num nut liberal like you - i openly acknowledge that I am strictly against BHO. you can find it in any of my posts... at least post something that makes sense. You post actually exposes how you reached 46k posts

No I agree, you aren't hiding the fact that you are an extreme nutcase which seems to make up a lot of McCain/Palin supporters from your neck of the woods.

Here's another glowing example of your ignorance and stupidity

Wake up before its too late and realize the reality of you drug addict, terrorist, black Muslim master who taking donation from foreign countries and who knows, maybe terrorist nations too and buying up ½ an hour of all major TV channel time to cloud the judgment of American people.

Nice digup :thumbsup: thanks for reviving my baned post !!!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Compared to a Man who can't even run a Campaign?

So you prefer corruption and illegal tactics over incompetence? Well, you toe the party line well anyways you dirty little criminal you.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country?

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Absolutely, wholeheartedly... I do.

You cant blame Obama for the crimes of anyone he ever knew any more than you can blame McCain for the Keating 5 or for personally doing his part to sell our country to the corporations through his lobbyist buddies... Oh wait, thats not a good comparison becasue the latter one is true./

 

[Bowfinger]

There's a surprise. CAD found another op-ed from his anti-ACORN echo chamber and pounces on it like a starving mutt on rancid roadkill. Give it a rest already. The op-ed is more of the same insinuation and over-reaching allegations. As far as Obama distancing itself from ACORN, this stunning, in-depth (by CAD's standards) piece says only,

• "The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn, claiming Mr. Obama never organized with it and has nothing to do with illegal voter registration."

Big deal. Is it accurate? Did Obama ever organize with ACORN or not? Obama renouncing illegal voter registration? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. Here I thought Obama supported illegal registration.

Is this really all you have? Seriously? For Christ's sakes CAD, learn to use real news sources and something with actual information in it instead of your empty, RNC-endorsed self-gratification puff pieces.


As far as the New York Post article demonstrating your one example of ACORN voting "fraud":

[ ... ]
Board officials had contacted Nash this summer, questioned his address and told him to stop repeat registering.

But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.

"He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else's] address, and he cast a ballot," said board official Jane Platten.

I know reading is hard, but did you happen to notice what is missing there? ACORN. While this was uncovered as part of an ACORN investigation, this guy did NOT vote fraudulently based on a bogus ACORN registration. Instead, he went in directly, filed a phony registration, and attempted to vote with it.

Oops, another FAIL.

You also probably missed a few other key points:

Still, members of the bipartisan board downplayed any voter fraud.

And Platten insisted officials with ACORN have offered "any and all" help in probing the questionable activities. Katy Gall, the Ohio state director for ACORN, said her group is cooperating fully with the investigation.

She added that her group has fired anyone who was found soliciting duplicate registrations. ...

"Any and all help." Firing any lazy or dishonest employees found soliciting duplicate registrations (not that duplicate registrations are illegal, but they do falsely inflate the amount of work the employee did). So far, at least, it sounds like ACORN is also concerned about phony registrations and is taking the appropriate steps to fix the problems. How diabolical!

With all due respect CAD, you need to either find a better molehill, or find "news" sources that actually have substantive information instead of vacuous outrage. You've cried wolf so many times flogging the same thin, transparently-partisan allegations that if you do ever stumble across something truly significant, nobody will be listening. You hate ACORN. We get it.

 

[Overgloc]

Odinga,Ayer,Wright,Acorn, what's Next?


McCain/Palin 08

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Is this really all you have? Seriously? For Christ's sakes CAD, learn to use real news sources and something with actual information in it instead of your empty, RNC-endorsed self-gratification puff pieces.

He cant... You have to remember that info does not exist, so he need to do his part to trump it up with innuendo and opinion, by misleading people. That is a typical rep. tactic and he is good at it.

CAD, you are losing, badly and have no candidate in a country that is sick and tired of your kind and the damage they have done. give up already.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Compared to a Man who can't even run a Campaign?

So you prefer corruption and illegal tactics over incompetence? Well, you toe the party line well anyways you dirty little criminal you.

Nope, if it was proven that Obama was corrupt and committed illegal acts I'd be totally against him. BTW there's nothing little or criminal about me you cowering fool.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country?

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Absolutely, wholeheartedly... I do.

You cant blame Obama for the crimes of anyone he ever knew any more than you can blame McCain for the Keating 5 or for personally doing his part to sell our country to the corporations through his lobbyist buddies... Oh wait, thats not a good comparison becasue the latter one is true./

Long term associations generally make the "I didnt know" play a bit of a hollow statement now dont they? It isnt like Obama met these guys once or twice. These questionable figures in his past were there for years.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country?

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Absolutely, wholeheartedly... I do.

You cant blame Obama for the crimes of anyone he ever knew any more than you can blame McCain for the Keating 5 or for personally doing his part to sell our country to the corporations through his lobbyist buddies... Oh wait, thats not a good comparison becasue the latter one is true./

Obama's economic advisors - Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson -were Fannie/Freddie CEO's and instrumental in the collapse. Arent these the boobs that you guys say should be in jail? And they are Obama's economic advisors? Judgement you say? Psh.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country?

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Absolutely, wholeheartedly... I do.

You cant blame Obama for the crimes of anyone he ever knew any more than you can blame McCain for the Keating 5 or for personally doing his part to sell our country to the corporations through his lobbyist buddies... Oh wait, thats not a good comparison becasue the latter one is true./

Long term associations generally make the "I didnt know" play a bit of a hollow statement now dont they? It isnt like Obama met these guys once or twice. These questionable figures in his past were there for years.

But he didnt have the media pointing out that these characters were actually BAD... so there was no way for him to know. Now THAT'S sound judgement.