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North Korea reportedly hands Trump another big win by releasing US prisoners

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FelixDeCat said:
The first president to finally fix the North Korean nuclear issue.

If this come to fruition Donald Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize!
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FelixDeCat said:
You guys need to admit that Trump is 10x the president Bronco was. And no way would Hillary make Un do this. Should would have done the usual appeasement dance like all normal politicians do.
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OutHouse said:
how would you like your crow?



who cares, the hostages are on their way home and a time and date was set for the US/NK summit. its just a day full of wins.

🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂



Time to own up.
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brandonbull said:
Something happened and Obama didn't build it. Very coincidental that this happened after all the back and forth Between Trump and Kim Jong.
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FelixDeCat said:
This would not have happened had Trump not stood up to little rocket man Un. He would have still been firing missles and demanding money to stop doing so. Trump said no and that he would face fire and fury if he actually hit anything. Then he put major trade pressure on China. China kept NK afloat with backdoor food, supplies and cash. China backed down and put pressure on fat boy Un.

Un finally backed down, released prisoners and wants to join the world economy.

Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize..

Now.
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Lol to the Fking L.

Who knew international nuclear diplomacy could be so hard?
 
To be completely fair to Trump, he managed to get 3 prisoners home AND got NK to (accidentally?) blow up their nuke test site. At this point, it doesn't seem like the US gave anything up in return (need to see whether Cohen got paid LOL.) Good on Trump to walk away from this charade before Lucy Jong Un pulled the proverbial football away.

He's actually free to go back to trade wars with China, now that he no longer has to play nice for sake of the summit. Much winning. Yay.
 
UNCjigga said:
To be completely fair to Trump, he managed to get 3 prisoners home AND got NK to (accidentally?) blow up their nuke test site. At this point, it doesn't seem like the US gave anything up in return (need to see whether Cohen got paid LOL.) Good on Trump to walk away from this charade before Lucy Jong Un pulled the proverbial football away.

He's actually free to go back to trade wars with China, now that he no longer has to play nice for sake of the summit. Much winning. Yay.
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NK was going to blow up the test site anyway by all reports. It was no longer functional and they already know how to make missiles that do everything they want/need.
The 3 citizens returned is an accomplishment but don't forget last year the Trump administration brought home a brain dead guy and didn't take any blame for that either (you can't have it both ways). The point is, I don't think governments should get credit or blame for bring home hostages. In fact, part of the driving motivation for the continual abduction of hostages is that governments across the world routinely respond to them.
 
UNCjigga said:
To be completely fair to Trump, he managed to get 3 prisoners home AND got NK to (accidentally?) blow up their nuke test site. At this point, it doesn't seem like the US gave anything up in return (need to see whether Cohen got paid LOL.) Good on Trump to walk away from this charade before Lucy Jong Un pulled the proverbial football away.

He's actually free to go back to trade wars with China, now that he no longer has to play nice for sake of the summit. Much winning. Yay.
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NKs nuclear test site was unusable and they no longer need it anyways since they have achieved their goals, just like the US hasn't tested nukes in decades. more importantly, the US gave KJU exactly what his family has been seeking for three generations, recognition on the global stage and that can not be undone. they played trump like a bitch.
 
UNCjigga said:
To be completely fair to Trump, he managed to get 3 prisoners home AND got NK to (accidentally?) blow up their nuke test site. At this point, it doesn't seem like the US gave anything up in return (need to see whether Cohen got paid LOL.) Good on Trump to walk away from this charade before Lucy Jong Un pulled the proverbial football away.

He's actually free to go back to trade wars with China, now that he no longer has to play nice for sake of the summit. Much winning. Yay.
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Bigly
 
Hey, OP? How are you doing? Must be a rough day. Look, just because this blew up in your face like the North Korean Nuclear testing site doesn't mean that I believe that you didn't have honest hope that South and North Korea could finally put the past behind them and become one again.

It just wasn't in the cards this time. So, maybe this video can help perk you up.


Best wishes.
 
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UNCjigga said:
To be completely fair to Trump, he managed to get 3 prisoners home AND got NK to (accidentally?) blow up their nuke test site. At this point, it doesn't seem like the US gave anything up in return (need to see whether Cohen got paid LOL.) Good on Trump to walk away from this charade before Lucy Jong Un pulled the proverbial football away.

He's actually free to go back to trade wars with China, now that he no longer has to play nice for sake of the summit. Much winning. Yay.
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I never expected you to be a Trump apologist. Trump did everything he could to get Kim to back out & finally had to do it himself.
 
Jhhnn said:
I never expected you to be a Trump apologist. Trump did everything he could to get Kim to back out & finally had to do it himself.
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Trump apologist???? Hardly! I guess my mocking tone didn't really come through in that post. Trump was getting played all along, to be sure, and everyone knew it.

From Axios this morning:

Ian Bremmer, founder of the Eurasia Group, said the announcement is "a big embarrassment for the president, no matter how he tries to spin it."

"The language in the letter is harsh, and reopens talk of military preemption," Bremmer said. "This is a direct slap in the face to Kim."
Bremmer said Trump killed the summit because the risk of a blowup was rising: North Korea wasn't about to accept unilateral denuclearization, and wasn't likely to show up and give Trump personal credit for the breakthrough.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Hey thanks for that. If it's a fake then it has no investment or historical value.
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You mean like current POTUS?

Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of the description, either. The Vice article mentions that there are two different coins for two different reasons and that the coin for sale is minted differently than the one advertised, it kinda sounds like one is only available to be distributed directly to certain people, anyway...so maybe it is "the coin," being that it's the only one that can be purchased? I'm not sure...
 
Bitek said:
Lol to the Fking L.

Who knew international nuclear diplomacy could be so hard?
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Unlike Bronco, Trump will have to earn his Nobel Peace Prize. Lil Kim realizes that true freedom in NK could mean his eventual imprisonment and execution. Giving up nukes reduces his power. He will need a lot of incentive to follow through on his empty promises.

In the meantime he would rather toy with us, and Trump is doing the same with him.

Lil Kim needs to put up or shut up.

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FelixDeCat said:
Unlike Bronco, Trump will have to earn his Nobel Peace Prize. Lil Kim realizes that true freedom in NK could mean his eventual imprisonment and execution. Giving up nukes reduces his power. He will need a lot of incentive to follow through on his empty promises.

In the meantime he would rather toy with us, and Trump is doing the same with him.

Lil Kim needs to put up or shut up.

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This folks is how one maintains a delusional bubble.
 
UNCjigga said:
Trump apologist???? Hardly! I guess my mocking tone didn't really come through in that post. Trump was getting played all along, to be sure, and everyone knew it.

From Axios this morning:

Ian Bremmer, founder of the Eurasia Group, said the announcement is "a big embarrassment for the president, no matter how he tries to spin it."

"The language in the letter is harsh, and reopens talk of military preemption," Bremmer said. "This is a direct slap in the face to Kim."
Bremmer said Trump killed the summit because the risk of a blowup was rising: North Korea wasn't about to accept unilateral denuclearization, and wasn't likely to show up and give Trump personal credit for the breakthrough.
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That's gobbledegook, mostly a repetition of White House spin. Also from the article you mention-

Jeff Prescott, a National Security Council senior director under President Obama, said Trump "has been acting like a politician seeking a political 'win' rather than a statesman acting in our national interest."

  • Why it matters, per Prescott: "[W]e ... find ourselves with heightened risk of war, dimmer opportunities for engagement with North Korea, isolated from our partners, and blamed for today’s outcome."
  • "[T]he risks of war are again unacceptably high."
https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-am-6e29cdf3-60e3-4200-b5de-37ce9114b677.html
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FelixDeCat said:
Unlike Bronco, Trump will have to earn his Nobel Peace Prize. Lil Kim realizes that true freedom in NK could mean his eventual imprisonment and execution. Giving up nukes reduces his power. He will need a lot of incentive to follow through on his empty promises.

In the meantime he would rather toy with us, and Trump is doing the same with him.

Lil Kim needs to put up or shut up.

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So give us an objectively plausible scenario where "true freedom" is reached in NK that doesn't involve a brutal war that kills millions, and possible nuclear exchange.
 
Bitek said:
So give us an objectively plausible scenario where "true freedom" is reached in NK that doesn't involve a brutal war that kills millions, and possible nuclear exchange.
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Look up Muammar Gaddafi and Libya. Muammar agreed to give up weapons of mass destruction in exchange for the lifting of sanctions and it played a role in his eventual downfall and execution. You might even say this also helped trigger the "Muslim Spring" in Egypt and Syria.

If Lil Kim intends to bring economic prosperity to NK by giving up nukes in exchange for the lift of sanctions it will eventually empower his people who might one day may start to demand a free and democratic NK. But he might survive by giving up nukes and maintain his conventional forces grip over its hopeless population and continue to threaten Seoul SK with thousands of those missiles for decades to come.
 
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