North Korea reportedly hands Trump another big win by releasing US prisoners

[fskimospy]

Look up Muammar Gaddafi and Libya. Muammar agreed to give up weapons of mass destruction in exchange for the lifting of sanctions and it played a role in his eventual downfall and execution. You might even say this also helped trigger the "Muslim Spring" in Egypt and Syria.

If Lil Kim intends to bring economic prosperity to NK by giving up nukes in exchange for the lift of sanctions it will eventually empower his people who might one day may start to demand a free and democratic NK. But he might survive by giving up nukes and maintain his conventional forces grip over its hopeless population and continue to threaten Seoul SK with thousands of those missiles for decades to come.

Isn’t Libya a really good example as to why that’s never going to happen in this case?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Unlike Bronco, Trump will have to earn his Nobel Peace Prize. Lil Kim realizes that true freedom in NK could mean his eventual imprisonment and execution. Giving up nukes reduces his power. He will need a lot of incentive to follow through on his empty promises.

In the meantime he would rather toy with us, and Trump is doing the same with him.

Lil Kim needs to put up or shut up.

Potato quality Presidents play no one.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Isn’t Libya a really good example as to why that’s never going to happen in this case?

Kim has more incentive than ever to advance his nuke program. Thanks Trump!

 

[FelixDeCat]

Isn’t Libya a really good example as to why that’s never going to happen in this case?

As previously mentioned, maintaining his grip on conventional forces may keep him in power. In the past that usually includes random executions of top officials and military leaders using anti-aircraft weapons or flame throwers (overkill but sends a message), or anyone else deemed a threat to the dictatorship.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...anti-aircraft-guns-flamethrowers-mortars.html

Muammar did not have the kind of grip after forty years of rule.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

As previously mentioned, maintaining his grip on conventional forces may keep him in power. In the past that usually includes random executions of top officials and military leaders using anti-aircraft weapons (overkill but sends a message), or anyone else deemed a threat to the dictatorship.

Muammar did not have the kind of grip after nearly 40+ years of rule.

Kim is a horrific individual which few deny. Telling the world that the plan is to get rid on him isn't going to encourage Kim in the least. Some American sponsored plot materializes and what will Kim do? Die because of a means of real deterrence.

Trust the US, especially Trump to live up to any agreement? Being Kim does not mean that he needs to be foolish as far as his security goes.

 

[fskimospy]

As previously mentioned, maintaining his grip on conventional forces may keep him in power. In the past that usually includes random executions of top officials and military leaders using anti-aircraft weapons or flame throwers (overkill but sends a message), or anyone else deemed a threat to the dictatorship.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...anti-aircraft-guns-flamethrowers-mortars.html

Muammar did not have the kind of grip after forty years of rule.

The US made a deal of sorts with Libya and then bombed them until their leader was overthrown and killed. The US just also violated our most recent denuclearization agreement with Iran.

We have no credibility here and no way to make promises to Kim that he will think we will honor. Giving up nukes is a nonstarter here and everyone with common sense knows it.

 

[OutHouse]

Care to come back to answer your thread?

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oh don't worry little one, ive been here watching you make an ass of yourself.

fyi the summit is back on.

 

[K1052]

lol

 

[K1052]

From what I'm reading NK hasn't agreed to much, if anything. Trump appears to be lowering expectations about the meeting already.

 

[deathBOB]

From what I'm reading NK hasn't agreed to much, if anything. Trump appears to be lowering expectations about the meeting already.

Any preconditions? Also NYT says that the envoy was previously sanctioned by US and may have been the mastermind of an attack on a South Korean naval vessel. Subtle power move?

 

[K1052]

Any preconditions?

Based on the info out so far no.

 

[hal2kilo]

From what I'm reading NK hasn't agreed to much, if anything. Trump appears to be lowering expectations about the meeting already.

You mean something like the Iran deal he just killed?

 

[K1052]

You mean something like the Iran deal he just killed?

Seems like that would be the most optimistic scenario right now.

 

[Indus]

oh don't worry little one, ive been here watching you make an ass of yourself.

fyi the summit is back on.

Keep sucking on that trump kool-aid.

People who are objective remember:

 

[dawp]

Yes, 30 years later.



Do you truly think Trump wouldn't unilaterally repeal Obamacare if he could?

Again, that's beside the point. If you want any shot at permanence, get it through congress.



Reflexive Republican opposition doing the will of those who put them in power. Control of one branch of government doesn't grant the right to circumvent another branch except to do actions which are easily reversed.

it could have been 30 days and it would make no difference.

 

[Thebobo]

I'm confused

 

[UNCjigga]

Did someone bump the wrong thread again???

Oh well, how’s that official end to the Vietnam War coming along??

 

[dawp]

bumped it by mistake, thought it was a different one