NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! /me got the law handed to him tonight

[ThaGrandCow]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Atrail

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: wviperw
Why would you get out of a ticket b/c you are in the military?

90% of the officers around here are either current marine reservists or former marines. I really shouldn't have to say more

public servant

honestly.... the amount of special treatment given to gov's people is disgusting...

Dude, as a marine I'm on call 24/7 if some major war breaks out. Does your job pay to to die if need be to protect others? That rates a little bit of leeway in certain situations.

1. You are not special just because you're Marine
2. You volunteered, nobody forced you to sign up. The danger comes with territory, you knew that before signing up.
3. Traffic laws do apply to you, see #1 for reasons why.

Have you ever gone into a store and asked for a friend who worked there, cause they could get you a discount? Have you ever had a person tell you about something that was coming up to give you advance notice to save you money or get you in on a good deal? Hell, have you ever visited the hot deals forum?

Human nature is to take advantage of all the advantages they have. This is one advantage that I have over others. I'm sure you know someone/work somewhere/know of a good website that gets you an advantage over me in a certain area. I don't berate you for it, don't berate me.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Atrail

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: wviperw
Why would you get out of a ticket b/c you are in the military?

90% of the officers around here are either current marine reservists or former marines. I really shouldn't have to say more

public servant

honestly.... the amount of special treatment given to gov's people is disgusting...

Dude, as a marine I'm on call 24/7 if some major war breaks out. Does your job pay to to die if need be to protect others? That rates a little bit of leeway in certain situations.

1. You are not special just because you're Marine
2. You volunteered, nobody forced you to sign up. The danger comes with territory, you knew that before signing up.
3. Traffic laws do apply to you, see #1 for reasons why.

Have you ever gone into a store and asked for a friend who worked there, cause they could get you a discount? Have you ever had a person tell you about something that was coming up to give you advance notice to save you money or get you in on a good deal? Hell, have you ever visited the hot deals forum?

Human nature is to take advantage of all the advantages they have. This is one advantage that I have over others. I'm sure you know someone/work somewhere/know of a good website that gets you an advantage over me in a certain area. I don't berate you for it, don't berate me.

You are right, we all want the best "deal" possible". My point was that you are not "entitled" to exepmtion and should not expect one.

 

[Yossarian]

Yeah thanks for serving and all, but it's bullshit that military service lets you break laws.

 

[fatbaby]

Heh, all my mom has to do is flash her hospital security pass and she gets let off =D

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: wviperw
Why would you get out of a ticket b/c you are in the military?

Back in the day, I got out of a ticket because i was wearing my private security uniform.

Hey, lookie, it's Gary Coleman. Whatcha talking bout Willis.

KK

 

[Ylen13]

It sucks that they didn?t let u go.

Was in a car with a step son of a mayor and he got pulled over. You had to see the cop apologizing to him when he saw his idea and realized who he was.

 

[ThaGrandCow]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Atrail

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: wviperw
Why would you get out of a ticket b/c you are in the military?

90% of the officers around here are either current marine reservists or former marines. I really shouldn't have to say more

public servant

honestly.... the amount of special treatment given to gov's people is disgusting...

Dude, as a marine I'm on call 24/7 if some major war breaks out. Does your job pay to to die if need be to protect others? That rates a little bit of leeway in certain situations.

1. You are not special just because you're Marine
2. You volunteered, nobody forced you to sign up. The danger comes with territory, you knew that before signing up.
3. Traffic laws do apply to you, see #1 for reasons why.

Have you ever gone into a store and asked for a friend who worked there, cause they could get you a discount? Have you ever had a person tell you about something that was coming up to give you advance notice to save you money or get you in on a good deal? Hell, have you ever visited the hot deals forum?

Human nature is to take advantage of all the advantages they have. This is one advantage that I have over others. I'm sure you know someone/work somewhere/know of a good website that gets you an advantage over me in a certain area. I don't berate you for it, don't berate me.

You are right, we all want the best "deal" possible". My point was that you are not "entitled" to exepmtion and should not expect one.

I didn't expect to be let go, when the cop gave me the ticket I took it, signed it, and was on my way. I made my attempt to get out of it (as does everyone else that has ever been given a ticket) and failed. I didn't complain, bitch, or yell. I said "have a safe evening" and was on my way.

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Atrail

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: wviperw
Why would you get out of a ticket b/c you are in the military?

90% of the officers around here are either current marine reservists or former marines. I really shouldn't have to say more

public servant

honestly.... the amount of special treatment given to gov's people is disgusting...

honestly.... the amount of disrespect given to people willing to die for your freedom is disgusting...

 

[DJFuji]

I think the real thing with getting flak or getting the "breaks" from military affiliation is where it is you get pulled over at. If you get pulled over in a military town, you're likely to get a ticket BECAUSE youre in the military. On the other hand, a town far away from any military influence tends to hold the military on a plateau because they're not dealing with them on a daily basis.

 

[psianime]

^bump^

 

[Ryan]

Dude, almost everyone in my family is in the military, and I've never heard of this kind of crap. Honestly, if I was a cop, I'd wouldn't give into that kind of crap. Status means nothing to me.

 

[Codewiz]

If you are a government employee, you have just broken your code of ethics because you are using your government position for personal gain. This is why people have such a poor outlook towards government employees.

I can't say much for the military but I know that every federal employee would be breaking the code of ethics the moment they tried to use their position to get out of a ticket.

You can spin it anyway you want but it is still breaking the law. I guess most people don't have ethics anymore. Truly sad.

 

[ThaGrandCow]

Originally posted by: Codewiz
If you are a government employee, you have just broken your code of ethics because you are using your government position for personal gain. This is why people have such a poor outlook towards government employees.

I can't say much for the military but I know that every federal employee would be breaking the code of ethics the moment they tried to use their position to get out of a ticket.

You can spin it anyway you want but it is still breaking the law. I guess most people don't have ethics anymore. Truly sad.

There's only one thing you're leaving out here. Using a government position for personal gain would be if I was using a marked government vehicle for personal gain. It was my civilian car I was in at the time.

 

[rudeguy]

you are a flaming jackass for taking advantage of the perks of your job...what would this country be like if we all relied on favors and special treatment? Imagine it...we would have people giving money to politicians just for political favors, people being nice to other people just to get a discount, and in the end we might even have companies out there with people who's only job it is to befriend people to advance the company's interests...

oh right, its called the american way

all of you people who are ranting need to pull the sticks out of your asses and get over it.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: Codewiz
If you are a government employee, you have just broken your code of ethics because you are using your government position for personal gain. This is why people have such a poor outlook towards government employees.

I can't say much for the military but I know that every federal employee would be breaking the code of ethics the moment they tried to use their position to get out of a ticket.

You can spin it anyway you want but it is still breaking the law. I guess most people don't have ethics anymore. Truly sad.

There's only one thing you're leaving out here. Using a government position for personal gain would be if I was using a marked government vehicle for personal gain. It was my civilian car I was in at the time.

You need to go back and read your handbook. I can be on my own time and I still can't use my position for personal gain. It doesn't matter you aren't in a government car.

You used your position as a government employee(actually military which I am not all that familar with) to get out of a ticket. That is using your government position for your personal monetary gain. You don't have the pay the ticket and you don't have to pay the increase in insurance all because you used your government position.

Of course, everything I am refering to is previous times you have used your position to get out of a ticket. Thanks goodness you got the ticket this time around.

I guess you think that with you military employment you are above the law. I may not be in the military but my life is on the line for this country 24/7

EDIT: BTW I am not so blind that I think this doesn't happen. I just find it really stupid that someone gets on a forum to admit they are doing something illegal and want to argue that it isn't. It is pretty cut and dry. I keep my nose clean but I am not going to contribute to the sterotype that government officials get away with murder. I follow my code of ethics.

 

[AvesPKS]

You know, I complain about not getting out of speeding tickets too, but in reality, as was previously stated, everyone has some kind of hookup, whether it's free alcohol, or cheap cable, or cheap cars, or whatever. I'll bet it all evens out.

However, if you guys think it's bad here...one of my buddies from Saudi was telling me that he was riding around in Saudi with a son of royalty, wrecking into cars and doing quite a bit of property damage. The police chief came to his house to arrest him, and when he found out who he was, he apologized profusely and left.

 

[Thraxen]

BTW I am not so blind that I think this doesn't happen. I just find it really stupid that someone gets on a forum to admit they are doing something illegal and want to argue that it isn't. It is pretty cut and dry.

I highly doubt what he does is illegal unless he specifically asks to be let off because he is in the military. Cops give or don't give tickets to people basically at their own discretion.

 

[xospec1alk]

get over it, the guy tried and he failed...just like every one of us would have done.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
You know, I complain about not getting out of speeding tickets too, but in reality, as was previously stated, everyone has some kind of hookup, whether it's free alcohol, or cheap cable, or cheap cars, or whatever. I'll bet it all evens out.

However, if you guys think it's bad here...one of my buddies from Saudi was telling me that he was riding around in Saudi with a son of royalty, wrecking into cars and doing quite a bit of property damage. The police chief came to his house to arrest him, and when he found out who he was, he apologized profusely and left.

Well I know that government officials are supposed to hold ourselves to higher ethical standards. I know I try to. If a cop was going to let me out of a ticket just because of my position I would actually ask for him not to. If he let me out of it without knowing my government position(doubtful because of the required stickers on my car) then I would be fine with it.

I can't help what other government officials do but I sure will let them know they are breaking the code of ethics if they casually start talking about it. I also don't like the simple idea that "everyone is doing it so I will do it too".

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

BTW I am not so blind that I think this doesn't happen. I just find it really stupid that someone gets on a forum to admit they are doing something illegal and want to argue that it isn't. It is pretty cut and dry.

I highly doubt what he does is illegal unless he specifically asks to be let off because he is in the military. Cops give or don't give tickets to people basically at their own discretion.

If he knowingly uses his position to get out of a ticket then it is illegal. It doesn't matter that the cop has the discretion. If the only reason he got out of the ticket is because of his government status then he is breaking his code of ethics.

Is it provable?? Hell not because the cop gets to decide who he lets out of a ticket and will stick to his story that it had nothing to do with the military connection.

Just because you can't prove it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

He stated that he has gotten out of tickets because of his military employment. You can't argue with that. He admitted it.

get over it, the guy tried and he failed...just like every one of us would have done.

Heck yeah I will try to get out of every ticket I can but I will never let my government position be used to get out of the ticket. There is a very definite line that you should not cross. Just because it can't be proven doesn't mean you should hop over it.

 

[BeauJangles]

I don't have a problem with military personnel not being issued tickets. Honestly, for the $hit pay you guys make for what you do, there should be a godamned ticker tape parade every time you go to the supermarket.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: wviperw
Why would you get out of a ticket b/c you are in the military?

90% of the officers around here are either current marine reservists or former marines. I really shouldn't have to say more

EDIT: I guess I should say that I've gotten out of about 3 tickets so far when I was in my car with the USMC sticker. The officer comes up and we just start chatting:
"where've you been stationed at?"
"oh I was here and here... etc."
"Woah! I was there 3 years ago... is <name> still there?"
etc...etc...etc...
"Ok, well I'm not gonna write you a ticket, just slow it down a bit"
"Thanks officer, I really appreciate that"
/me =

And then you go out and speed again... so what was the point of stopping you if he was never going to punish you in any way ?

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I don't have a problem with military personnel not being issued tickets. Honestly, for the $hit pay you guys make for what you do, there should be a godamned ticker tape parade every time you go to the supermarket.

So they should be above the law because they willingly picked the military??

My life is under constant terrorist threat. Everyday I go to work I could be killed. I don't expect to be above the law because of it. I picked my profession. I take the risks with the job. I guess that since I don't walk on the battlefield, I am not as important.

EDIT:

ThaGrandCow, if you are so sure you did nothing wrong why don't you let me know your name and base location and I will just inform my upper management. If you did nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about and you can come back to tell me what a jackass I am.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I don't have a problem with military personnel not being issued tickets. Honestly, for the $hit pay you guys make for what you do, there should be a godamned ticker tape parade every time you go to the supermarket.

Both of my parents are in the military, my Mother for 23 years, and my step father for 16, and I don't understand this argument - combined they make around 80k a year.

The sh!t for pay is usually only when you start out, or if you're a dumbass and can't make rank.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I don't have a problem with military personnel not being issued tickets. Honestly, for the $hit pay you guys make for what you do, there should be a godamned ticker tape parade every time you go to the supermarket.

Both of my parents are in the military, my Mother for 23 years, and my step father for 16, and I don't understand this argument - combined they make around 80k a year.

The sh!t for pay is usually only when you start out, or if you're a dumbass and can't make rank.

no offense but that combined salary for those amount of years is not good at all.