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Nook Color 2 = Beast mode Kindle Fire + $50

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Why does the Anandtech article say the original Nook was a modest success, didn't they ship over 3 million units? That seems pretty significant to me.
 
thedarkwolf said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...00549320&#loan
Seems to be the exact same formula the nook uses. Not all books can be loaned and they can only be loaned once. So far every book I've bought can be loaned.

My library supports several formats including the kindle one so no problem there for me.
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Guess they just started doing the lending thing as well. Last I checked they didn't have that feature. Oh well. But my library doesn't support Kindle. Also I have a ton of PRC, and LIT books I've bought over the years from fictionwise.com which was bought out by B&N. I an read them easily on my nook, but have to pay to have Amazon convert them to kindle format. One of the reasons I didn't get the kindle.
 
SockHaser said:
Why does the Anandtech article say the original Nook was a modest success, didn't they ship over 3 million units? That seems pretty significant to me.
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Apple moves that many iPads in 5 weeks. Amazon just might ship 3M Kindle Fires in the last 6 weeks of this year.

So in the grand scheme of things, NOOK Color is a moderate success.

Library lending on Kindle was announced just last month, it's also handled by OverDrive which does ePub lending. IIRC Kindle lending could cannibalize into ePub lending because a library allocates X copies of a title, going forward to be split between ePub and Kindles. Either queues will get longer or libraries have to fork over more money to "buy" extra copies.
 
HumblePie said:
Guess they just started doing the lending thing as well. Last I checked they didn't have that feature. Oh well. But my library doesn't support Kindle. Also I have a ton of PRC, and LIT books I've bought over the years from fictionwise.com which was bought out by B&N. I an read them easily on my nook, but have to pay to have Amazon convert them to kindle format. One of the reasons I didn't get the kindle.
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Are you sure about that? You are free to run any conversion software you want on your PC then copy the books from PC to Kindle via USB cable.

I've never needed to do that since the books I buy from Baen are in mobi format which the Kindle reads without conversion, just copy and go.
 
quest55720 said:
Well I found my wife's Xmass gift. She wants something to read books and magazines on. I will gladly pay 50 dollars for a SD card slot and 8 GB more on board storage. I am a prime customer and the streaming videos would of been nice. But I can not have a media device that has 8 gigs of storage that is a deal breaker.
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It doesn't have 8gb of storage, it has 8gb of on board storage and free cloud storage, which you don't get with the others. That is a big difference. Why do you need all of your media on board with you at all times? You leave most of it on the cloud and transfer it back and forth as needed. I do it all the time. I don't keep everything on my phone. In fact, I forget how much storage I currently have available on my Thunderbolt, but I am nowhere near capacity. I keep what I like on it and have most of my stuff (but not all, haven't gotten around to uploading everything) on the cloud. The best part is that all of your Amazon purchases don't take up any cloud space.
 
BigDaddyD said:
It doesn't have 8gb of storage, it has 8gb of on board storage and free cloud storage, which you don't get with the others. That is a big difference. Why do you need all of your media on board with you at all times? You leave most of it on the cloud and transfer it back and forth as needed. I do it all the time. I don't keep everything on my phone. In fact, I forget how much storage I currently have available on my Thunderbolt, but I am nowhere near capacity. I keep what I like on it and have most of my stuff (but not all, haven't gotten around to uploading everything) on the cloud. The best part is that all of your Amazon purchases don't take up any cloud space.
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You get 6GB available (2GB is reserved for the system) and after installing some apps and games, you'll have even less space.

It's plenty of space if you don't mind being 100% dependent on cloud based services. Which seems to be Amazon's intent for being so restrictive with capacity. But not everyone stays in wifi range with their tablets.

Amazon pretty much put a leash on it's tablet. Don't stray too far or all your content goes away. 🙁
 
manly said:
Apple moves that many iPads in 5 weeks. Amazon just might ship 3M Kindle Fires in the last 6 weeks of this year.

So in the grand scheme of things, NOOK Color is a moderate success.
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It does, however, make it the most successful Android tablet so far. 😛
 
s44 said:
Unless, you know, you use Android -- and oops, right, all these competitors do. Google Music = ginormous free cloud storage.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but that is just music. I love Google, and use most of their products, but Amazon cloud is not limited to music.
 
rbk123 said:
What good is the cloud storage when you go places where you don't have wifi?
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Your tablet is wifi, and that can be said for a lot of its features...internet, email, video streaming. That is what the 6bg of usable storage is for. I mean, you can fit a lot of stuff on there and then swap it out when you get back to wifi. It's not like it takes forever to get back to wifi. Streaming transfer times are quick as well.

I just want to say, it is far from a perfect design. It does however look nice and is super cheap. If you want something with better specs, be willing to pay more. The Asus Prime looks good to me, but will cost more. Even the Ipad2 costs way too much doesn't have as much storage as I think it should considering the price. I mean if the Ipad2 wifi was $300 I would own one. That is what it is worth to me. $399 tops. I realize I am alone there...lol. All of these have some sacrifices. I would have loved if the Fire had at least 2x the onboard storage and some cameras, and Flash storage. Actually, I could do without the cameras personally if it saved money.
 
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Zaap said:
You're probably right, but when you step outside of your own tech-knowledge and view things it can be surprising how people base their decisions.

I was talking the other day to a lady who was on the verge of ordering "...that color Kindle". That's all she knows these things as. I said she might want to wait and see what The Nook has to offer. "The what?" I didn't know the stats at the time, but I'm willing to bet I could have mentioned 1GB vs 512 and SD card slots etc. and just be greeted with a blank stare to much of it. Her whole perspective was "I buy from Amazon all the time, I trust them. I don't care as much for B&N." Done deal.

I'd be willing to bet that non-tech people that already dig Amazon will tend to buy the Fire, and those that prefer B&N will buy the Nook- in which case, Amazon will clean house by default.

They've been really smart: just the term Kindle is virtually synonymous in many people's minds for a tablet you read books and maybe do other stuff with. Everything else exists in some other product universe. It barely registers for many that they could buy an iPad or (even less) a Transformer and read the same content with it as the Kindle.
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This is exactly what I was saying in a recent thread on this topic. Or rather, was trying to say, as no one got it.
 
Anyone else find it ironic that the most successful Android tablets are and will be the ones that are of the "Android but not Android" variety?
 
gus6464 said:
Anyone else find it ironic that the most successful Android tablets are and will be the ones that are of the "Android but not Android" variety?
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Maybe if that were the actual reason, but it's just a tangental fact. No one would find it funny, ironic, or even out of place if you were to say that the most successful Android tablets were the least expensive ones that still had good build quality.
 
gus6464 said:
Anyone else find it ironic that the most successful Android tablets are and will be the ones that are of the "Android but not Android" variety?
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No, because they are both from the two most popular bookstores. It's the content not the variety of OS that will make the Fire and Nook popular.
 
gus6464 said:
Anyone else find it ironic that the most successful Android tablets are and will be the ones that are of the "Android but not Android" variety?
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I do, but then again, they're able to subsidize the devices through media sales, Apple does something similar with the App Store, both are something other manufacturers are unable to pull off.
 
If you guys think that's ironic, then I'm not sure you actually understand what that means. It's actually quite appropriate that the most popular Android tablets are modified versions of vanilla Android, since that's kinda the point of free and open source software...
 
gus6464 said:
Anyone else find it ironic that the most successful Android tablets are and will be the ones that are of the "Android but not Android" variety?
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Not really, since those are the ones that had a lower price point, combined with excellent build quality, and had a practical use. There's also the advertising side of it too, so far, I don't think any of the HC tablets got anything close to the Droid Does advertising.
 
Exterous said:
Or when Amazon can just go in and delete your books
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html

Settlement and changes aside its something to keep in mind
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Eh, I really think that whole thing was overblown. Its not like they're regularly going around deleting peoples' books - and besides, they were deleting books that were illegally sold to begin with. If someone stole something, sold it to you, and then the police came and took it back, would you be mad at the police, or at the guy who sold you the illegal book?

(for reference, in this analogy, Amazon is not the seller, because the book was sold via Kindle by a 3rd party seller)
 
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