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NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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In PA we're having the problem of people aren't helping the contact tracers at all. Either they won't answer the phone or won't answer their questions completely. Some counties have pretty much given up trying to contact trace because of the large numbers also.
Government isn't helping at all either with regards to helping people financially that need to quarantine, so people continue to just go to work.

I won't pick up the phone for any number I don't recognize, I receive scam calls all day long with faked caller id. (Its really weird they don't call in the middle of the night now that I think about it). The telephone network is a poisoned well, if they want to rely on that they're about 20 years to late.
 
There was nothing easy about it for NZ, it took tons of discipline, cooperation and dedication from its population to beat COVID-19. If it's so easy for an island nation, Great Britain and Japan would surely have had a good outcome as well...


The entire population of new zealand is less 5 million and their economy is tiny in comparison to those 2 countries. They are the perfect place to weather a pandemic.
 
Saw on Inside Edition that LA county's hospitals are so short of nurses that they are asking for Australia and others countries to send some to help out with patients care. And CA is losing over 600K people lately to neighboring states and Texas, including stinking rich folks such as Telsa's Musk (TX) and Oracle's Ellison (HI).
 
Saw on Inside Edition that LA county's hospitals are so short of nurses that they are asking for Australia and others countries to send some to help out with patients care. And CA is losing over 600K people lately to neighboring states and Texas, including stinking rich folks such as Telsa's Musk (TX) and Oracle's Ellison (HI).

Musk is dodging taxes and expanding manufacturing, not closing up Fremont. Plus he can be closer to his toys down in Boca Chica. Oracle has been expanding here for years, the company isn't uprooting it's CA employees. Ellison is just going to hang out on Lanai until the pandemic is over...a choice I can't fault him for.
 
Slightly off topic.
I think I saw a delivery van carrying some on the Mass Pike yesterday.
Normal looking UPS delivery truck, the mid sized box type. Had what appeared to be some sort of AC unit on the roof and a State Cop escort that would flash their lights to get people out of the way. They weren’t going super fast but the cop did this several times. Felt like we have some place to be and we can’t dilly dally getting there.
Sort of cool I got to see it in action.
 
Governors were stating that HHS was telling them vaccine shipments would be reduced due to production problems and Pfizer says "WTF you talking about its sitting in our warehouse?"

As noted earlier HHS turned to Palantir to help with software for modeling distribution. Palantir fucks up nearly everything it touches and HHS isn't exactly at top of game with this admin. Seems like they're having trouble figuring out what should go where and when.

 
Governors were stating that HHS was telling them vaccine shipments would be reduced due to production problems and Pfizer says "WTF you talking about its sitting in our warehouse?"

As noted earlier HHS turned to Palantir to help with software for modeling distribution. Palantir fucks up nearly everything it touches and HHS isn't exactly at top of game with this admin. Seems like they're having trouble figuring out what should go where and when.

Looks like Pfizer is saying, "Don't blame your lack of planning and communication on us....it might hurt our stock prices."

I'm sure they're wanting to slow the distribution right now from the warehouse a little to get a handle on how quickly they'll actually be able to administer the vaccine. That way they don't get stuck trying manage their remote cold storage locations if they have more vaccines than they can hold.
 
Looks like Pfizer is saying, "Don't blame your lack of planning and communication on us....it might hurt our stock prices."

I'm sure they're wanting to slow the distribution right now from the warehouse a little to get a handle on how quickly they'll actually be able to administer the vaccine. That way they don't get stuck trying manage their remote cold storage locations if they have more vaccines than they can hold.

Yeah Bourla is tweeting it too.

Most of the initial supply shipped out to hospitals who seem to be wasting no time sticking their staffs. This phase should be pretty easy.
 
Governors were stating that HHS was telling them vaccine shipments would be reduced due to production problems and Pfizer says "WTF you talking about its sitting in our warehouse?"

As noted earlier HHS turned to Palantir to help with software for modeling distribution. Palantir fucks up nearly everything it touches and HHS isn't exactly at top of game with this admin. Seems like they're having trouble figuring out what should go where and when.


I heard a research guy on the news speculate there could be delays because the two mRNA vaccines use some special enzyme goop that is also used to produce test kits. There isn’t enough for both to go full production.
A few thoughts:
Amazing the absolute incompetence of this administration
Absolutely amazing the President didn’t use this as an excuse to stop testing in September however he probably was busy playing with his phone when this came up during a briefing
Amazing the the biggest, strongest, smartest and most brave President ever hasn’t used defense production act to order more production and brag about him being a war time President. Again amazing incompetence.
Finally the research guy was sort of spitballing. He didn’t know the specific numbers he just knew test kit production was using a lot of the goop.
 
Yeah Bourla is tweeting it too.

Most of the initial supply shipped out to hospitals who seem to be wasting no time sticking their staffs. This phase should be pretty easy.
I can't wait for my wife to get access to it so at least half of us will be protected. As soon as she can get me a dose, she will. =P
 
Musk is dodging taxes and expanding manufacturing, not closing up Fremont. Plus he can be closer to his toys down in Boca Chica. Oracle has been expanding here for years, the company isn't uprooting it's CA employees. Ellison is just going to hang out on Lanai until the pandemic is over...a choice I can't fault him for.

Let see....

  • Oracle: Oracle is moving its headquarters from Redwood City, California, to Austin, though it plans to maintain a presence in California. "We believe these moves best position Oracle for growth and provide our personnel with more flexibility about where and how they work," spokesperson Deborah Hellinger told CNN Business.

And not just those two guys or those two companies.

  • Hewlett Packard Enterprises: The company announced plans to relocate its headquarters from San Jose to Texas earlier this month. Houston is already its largest employment hub, and the company is constructing a new campus in the city.

  • 8VC: Londonsdale's VC firm is moving its headquarters from Silicon Valley to Austin. "It's just become really obvious that there are a lot of places to build around the country, not just Silicon Valley, due to cost of living, talent and all sorts of other things, culture and what not," Lonsdale told the Austin American Statesman last month.

  • Drew Houston: The Dropbox (DBX) CEO has purchased a home in Austin and plans to make it his permanent residence, according to a report from The Information last month.

  • FileTrail: The formerly San Jose-based firm, which makes records management software for law firms, moved to Austin in April.

  • DZS Inc.: The telecommunications equipment firm said in March it would move its headquarters from Oakland, California, to Plano, Texas, and create a new "engineering center of excellence" in the city.

  • QuestionPro: This online survey software firm announced its move from the Bay Area to Austin in January.
And here are a few who have recently moved to Florida:
  • David Blumberg: The founder and managing partner of early-stage venture capital firm Blumberg Capital left the Bay Area for Miami, the San Francisco Business Times reported earlier this month. "We certainly hope and pray that California will take action to remedy the disastrous self-inflicted political situation and restore its former luster and quality of life, but for now we are voting with our feet," Blumberg said on Facebook, according to the Business Times.

  • Keith Rabois: Rabois, a general partner at Founders Fund and former executive at PayPal and LinkedIn, told a Fortune reporter last month that he is leaving the Bay Area for Miami.

  • Jon Oringer: The founder and executive chairman of Shutterstock and a former New York resident bought a $42 million mansion in Miami Beach in October, according to the South Florida Business Journal. Oringer has since formed Pareto Holdings, a firmed aimed at incubating and investing in startups in the Miami tech scene.


and of course, the 600K plus of other people too.
 
Let see....



And not just those two guys or those two companies.




and of course, the 600K plus of other people too.

I've lived in the peninsula and live in Austin. The pre-covid tech growth in Austin has been going on for years and certainly accelerated in the past several. Google, FB, Apple, IBM, Amazon, and scores of others were already here with major expansion plans in the works. Oracle has a sizable campus in Riverside they've been expanding. COVID has just hit the fast forward button on changes that were underway or would happen in the next few years. SV/SF is still going to be the center of the tech universe in the US. People are vastly overestimating how much the pandemic is going to change things long term and I am bracing for the overcorrection when people are vaccinated and can travel/meet again.
 
Musk first threatened it when the county wouldn't let him reopen during their lockdown.
That's fine and dandy but as K1052 already mentioned, the Fremont plant is not being shuttered. Unless I'm missing something, Elon is moving his domicile to dodge the "wealth tax" on California's highest earners and to closely oversee the bootstrapping of the Cybertruck plant. California's leaders should be concerned about long-term trends, but there have been American tech hubs outside of SV for a long time. Honestly I don't mind going "off-topic" but HPE and ORCL moving their corp HQs is pretty tangential for this thread, at best.
 
I've lived in the peninsula and live in Austin. The pre-covid tech growth in Austin has been going on for years and certainly accelerated in the past several. Google, FB, Apple, IBM, Amazon, and scores of others were already here with major expansion plans in the works. Oracle has a sizable campus in Riverside they've been expanding. COVID has just hit the fast forward button on changes that were underway or would happen in the next few years. SV/SF is still going to be the center of the tech universe in the US. People are vastly overestimating how much the pandemic is going to change things long term and I am bracing for the overcorrection when people are vaccinated and can travel/meet again.

Did you read what I posted and what you posted?

You said and I quote your exact words...."Ellison is just going to hang out on Lanai until the pandemic is over..."....and I posted the article from CNN in which he moved his whole headquarter, not just him to hang out in HI for now as you claimed or only those two rich guys are leaving but many well know corporations are doing or planning to do so. Here is another article from a well know business source -


And no, before you or anyone try to put words in my mouth, I never say the sky is falling in SV/CA or everyone is leaving. Just saying this virus is accelerating the "exodus" (not my word but Bloomberg) and companies around the world are calculating their footprint and cost at any particular location.

“Wow,” said Erik Hallgrimson, vice chairman with brokerage Cushman & Wakefield in Silicon Valley, upon learning of Oracle’s action. “You’re really seeing a lot of corporate movement out of the state.”
Oracle’s decision just goes to show how much taxes and public policy can have an impact on corporate decision making, Hallgrimson added.
 
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I won't pick up the phone for any number I don't recognize, I receive scam calls all day long with faked caller id. (Its really weird they don't call in the middle of the night now that I think about it). The telephone network is a poisoned well, if they want to rely on that they're about 20 years to late.
Fair enough... most people don't pick up for unrecognized numbers. But if they left a message asking for you to call them would you?
That's not aimed solely at you but people in general.
 
Did you read what I posted and what you posted?

You said and I quote your exact words...."Ellison is just going to hang out on Lanai until the pandemic is over..."....and I posted the article from CNN in which he moved his whole headquarter, not just him to hang out in HI for now as you claimed or only those two rich guys are leaving but many well know corporations are doing or planning to do so. Here is another article from a well know business source -


And no, before you or anyone try to put words in my mouth, I never say the sky is falling in SV/CA or everyone is leaving. Just saying this virus is accelerating the "exodus" (not my word but Bloomberg) and companies around the world are calculating their footprint and cost at any particular location.

Oracle isn't forcing employees to relo to Austin from Redwood City. They're just going to keep growing more here than in the bay.

These things were largely ongoing already, COVID just sped them up.
 
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