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Muse

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I'm more careful than her. I haven't left my property since March 18. If I touch my mail or a package, I then wash my hands. The delivery sits for a week+ before I open it. I do not confront delivery people, all that stuff's left on the porch. AFAIK, my immune system's not compromised, however I'm in the age brackets that are elevated risk, so I'm extra careful... I feel it's my duty to flatten the curve and aside from that I HATE BEING SICK.

However, I'm paying attention and know that there's no way to be sure you won't come down with this at the present time. I'm hoping drugs, antibody testing and eventually a vaccine will mitigate that circumstance.
 
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Ichinisan

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very untrue, ive been to TONS of countries and no bumps into you accident or gets to close with the exception of a subway car where it cant be avoided. i guess im more paranoid then most about pickpockets and thief's and dont allow people to crowd me, if anyone seems as if they are going to get close i will step aside and let them go by.
My sister's experience in Italy disagrees with you.

My public transportation experiences in Thailand and Japan disagree with you.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Just got a 1200 dollar deposit from Uncle Sam.
I expect I will if I haven't already. Haven't bothered to check my checking acct. This does NOT remove Trump from my shitlist. He's permanently stained it.
 

BudAshes

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I expect I will if I haven't already. Haven't bothered to check my checking acct. This does NOT remove Trump from my shitlist. He's permanently stained it.

I already spent it on a cruise to Japan this fall.

lol
 
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CZroe

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If your former employer doesn't response in a timely manner with your wage history, the unemployment office ends up setting your wage base to zero which sets your benefit to zero. Once your former employer provides the required data, the unemployment office recalculates your benefit based on your actual wage history. This might be what's going on. If so, the unemployment office should make you whole wrt benefits missed while your wage history was incorrerct.

Well, I received a letter last night dated April 6th where they stated my wage history and said I have until April 21st to appeal it. The top of the page says "Unemployment Insurance Benefit Determination" even though their website says "Latest Eligibility Determination: No recent determinations found" and "Your eligibility is pending a determination."

There is nothing to dispute/appeal in the wage history and no way to acknowledge or accept it but I can appeal even though it doesn't say that they decided against me or anything. Weird. No indication that I have anything coming any time soon and no indication of anything they want in order to move forward.
 
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killster1

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My sister's experience in Italy disagrees with you.

My public transportation experiences in Thailand and Japan disagree with you.
I just said subway excluded. Never took public transportation in Thailand and have been there 7 times ;) in Italy no one got close on the streets only when in confined space like subway where there is no choice. No one touched me once on the street or touched my wife. Been to Italy a few times.
 

CZroe

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I just said subway excluded. Never took public transportation in Thailand and have been there 7 times ;) in Italy no one got close on the streets only when in confined space like subway where there is no choice. No one touched me once on the street or touched my wife. Been to Italy a few times.
Bangkok's subways need to be experienced.

Japan's temples and markets were super-crowded.
 

dasherHampton

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I just got back from the grocery store, and wow. Things have escalated.

There are employees walking around watching that shoppers maintain social distance. Everyone had a mask on. A guy was telling people at the registers where to stand.

As I walked out and headed to my normal exit a female employee yelled at me sternly: :"SIR! USE THE OTHER EXIT!" And when I say yelled, I mean yelled. You have to go in and leave from opposite doors.
 

ponyo

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EMS just delivered eight of the genuine KF94 masks from South Korea. :). I will give 2 of the masks to my BIL so he can wear it in hospitals he visits. Doctors and nurses shouldn't give him any crap since these are from South Korea and won't take away from US hospital N95 supply.

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CZroe

Lifer
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If you qualify to order cellphone parts from MobileSentrix they also sell KN95. Hope they are genuine.
 

Red Squirrel

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I just got back from the grocery store, and wow. Things have escalated.

There are employees walking around watching that shoppers maintain social distance. Everyone had a mask on. A guy was telling people at the registers where to stand.

As I walked out and headed to my normal exit a female employee yelled at me sternly: :"SIR! USE THE OTHER EXIT!" And when I say yelled, I mean yelled. You have to go in and leave from opposite doors.

Lol wow sounds crazy.

They have bylaw officers going around here too now enforcing the rules. Not sure how strict they are or how many of there they have per store, have not been since then.

I'm kinda curious to see what the LCBO looks like and I do kinda want wine, but I also feel like an asshole if I go out for something non essential. I'm surprised it's even still open and the fact that non essential stuff is being classified as essential is part of the problem.
 

rh71

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So talking about unemployment benefits... this article explains different ways it can still apply to you even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment. https://www.americanactionforum.org...s-aid-relief-and-economic-security-cares-act/

My wife left her job purposely at the end of '18 and hasn't worked since - she never applied for unemployment since it was her own decision to leave. According to the 2nd & 3rd bullet points, she can apply for PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance). I went to the NYS labor site and it says that in order to qualify for PUA, we have to be denied for UI (regular unemployment insurance), so we applied for UI first and have to await a decision via US Mail. I'm guessing we'll be allowed to apply for PUA thereafter. Since the benefits only go up to a certain date, this is time-sensitive. Supposedly for regular UI, it is retroactive and people are supposedly getting their money from when they stopped working. Is this true for PUA too - we can get benefits from when it was enacted until the end date regardless of when we officially get onboarded?
 
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Bangkok's subways need to be experienced.

Japan's temples and markets were super-crowded.

I guess the way I'm referring to it is this: When there is a standard line (say - check-out at a grocery store)... How close do people behind you stand behind you? 3-4 feet? or barely 6 inches to the point where you couldn't even take a step back?

I experience that shit a lot in South America - and also with the equivalent types in the US. Annoys the shit out of me.
 
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So talking about unemployment benefits... this article explains different ways it can still apply to you even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment. https://www.americanactionforum.org...s-aid-relief-and-economic-security-cares-act/

My wife left her job purposely at the end of '18 and hasn't worked since - she never applied for unemployment since it was her own decision to leave. According to the 2nd & 3rd bullet points, she can apply for PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance). I went to the NYS labor site and it says that in order to qualify for PUA, we have to be denied for UI (regular unemployment insurance), so we applied for UI first and have to await a decision via US Mail. I'm guessing we'll be allowed to apply for PUA thereafter. Since the benefits only go up to a certain date, this is time-sensitive. Supposedly for regular UI, it is retroactive and people are supposedly getting their money from when they stopped working. Is this true for PUA too - we can get benefits from when it was enacted until the end date regardless of when we officially get onboarded?

Is that on a state by state basis I'm guessing?

But god damn - no offense to your wife (or you), but being eligible for unemployment money for quiting your job AND it not being during the pandemic time period is just fucking nuts.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
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Is that on a state by state basis I'm guessing?

But god damn - no offense to your wife (or you), but being eligible for unemployment money for quiting your job AND it not being during the pandemic time period is just fucking nuts.

Well if they are just going to hand out trillions of dollars you might as well get in on that. We are all going to be paying for it shortly.
 

rh71

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Another article: https://www.businessinsider.com/stimulus-package-unemployment-benefits-increase-2020-3

Well if they are just going to hand out trillions of dollars you might as well get in on that. We are all going to be paying for it shortly.
This is just it - if we're paying for it, I better get some back like others may be.

There's a grievance system here for property taxes and it's just as asinine. They assessed people's values and some were able to get a lot back saying they were over-assessed and guess who's left to cover the rest of the budget that is now missing? Every other homeowner. So everyone grieves... so fuct up.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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So talking about unemployment benefits... this article explains different ways it can still apply to you even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment. https://www.americanactionforum.org...s-aid-relief-and-economic-security-cares-act/

My wife left her job purposely at the end of '18 and hasn't worked since - she never applied for unemployment since it was her own decision to leave. According to the 2nd & 3rd bullet points, she can apply for PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance). I went to the NYS labor site and it says that in order to qualify for PUA, we have to be denied for UI (regular unemployment insurance), so we applied for UI first and have to await a decision via US Mail. I'm guessing we'll be allowed to apply for PUA thereafter. Since the benefits only go up to a certain date, this is time-sensitive. Supposedly for regular UI, it is retroactive and people are supposedly getting their money from when they stopped working. Is this true for PUA too - we can get benefits from when it was enacted until the end date regardless of when we officially get onboarded?
No, your wife doesn't qualify. The 2nd & 3rd bullet points are for self-employed and 1099 contractors who normally wouldn't qualify for unemployment. They're supposed to ask for your 1099 and Schedule C on your 1040 tax return but who knows if they actually will and followup since millions are probably all applying. Think of all the Uber and Lyft drivers. People are going to abuse the crap out of the system since the Federal government is giving away free money to everyone.

But honestly, I rather have your wife get some of the free money she doesn't deserve than billions the rich assholes of this country are stealing from the middle class.
 
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Well if they are just going to hand out trillions of dollars you might as well get in on that. We are all going to be paying for it shortly.

Oh yeah - by all means... if you're eligible for it - then you're certainly entitled to it. Go for it - I would as well...

I'm just saying our government is retarded and folks are still wondering why for some reason.
 

rh71

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^ well I guess that makes more sense.

What's interesting is that during the unemployment application, they ask about "within the last 18 months" which she falls within - they also ask you to state the reason for leaving (including leaving on your own). Why not just deny us right then? Her official reason is that her IT dept. was being outsourced to a MSP and she didn't want any part of the transition. They gave her severance anyway.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Oh yeah - by all means... if you're eligible for it - then you're certainly entitled to it. Go for it - I would as well...

I'm just saying our government is retarded and folks are still wondering why for some reason.
She doesn't qualify for PUA. But that's not going to stop people from abusing the system. And with millions applying, you really think they're going to check all the paperwork?
 

K1052

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Newsom released the basic framework of criteria for dialing back the CA stay home order today and explained that life outside of home is going to look pretty different for a while.

California’s six indicators for modifying the stay-at-home order are:

  • The ability to monitor and protect our communities through testing, contact tracing, isolating, and supporting those who are positive or exposed;
  • The ability to prevent infection in people who are at risk for more severe COVID-19;
  • The ability of the hospital and health systems to handle surges;
  • The ability to develop therapeutics to meet the demand;
  • The ability for businesses, schools, and child care facilities to support physical distancing; and
  • The ability to determine when to reinstitute certain measures, such as the stay-at-home orders, if necessary.
The Governor said there is not a precise timeline for modifying the stay-at-home order, but that these six indicators will serve as the framework for making that decision.

He also noted that things will look different as California makes modifications. For example, restaurants will have fewer tables and classrooms will be reconfigured.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/04/14/g...-home-order-and-other-covid-19-interventions/
 

dasherHampton

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Lol wow sounds crazy.

They have bylaw officers going around here too now enforcing the rules. Not sure how strict they are or how many of there they have per store, have not been since then.

I'm kinda curious to see what the LCBO looks like and I do kinda want wine, but I also feel like an asshole if I go out for something non essential. I'm surprised it's even still open and the fact that non essential stuff is being classified as essential is part of the problem.

Yeah, it was a little startling, I guess, because I was in there not 3-4 days ago and everything was still fairly laid back, all things considered.

They most likely had some employee trainers in the interim who focused on being "stern" to make sure shoppers take them seriously. But it was still like "What the hell, man?" lol Do you really need to yell at me?

I guess pending lawsuits are also part of the equation. I can't fathom how they will get very far since it's virtually impossible to prove the employees contacted the virus at the store but chains are being safe nonetheless.