NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[herm0016]

Having said that, outside of wars or "natural" causes, how often do 20k people die in a modern, developed country in the span of a month?.

Avg number of deaths in the USA per day is between 7 and 8 thousand. So every 3 days more than 20k die. How can you say a virus is not a natural cause? Further, some of the dead were near death already and would have been part of that number anyway.

Source is cdc data.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Sorry but Bill Maher was spot the fuck on this week. Political correctness will be the death of human race if people keep getting their panties in a wad over what you call a virus.

We're talking the death of millions and morons are worried about the sensitivity of how you refer to it.

Pretty clear that the Chinese propoganda is just as strong as any Russian propoganda during the last election.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Not sure what to make of this report - I don't really understand enough about viruses to know if this is unusual or particularly bad. Nor am I sure how much to trust this news source.

And yet you post it ....

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Having said that, outside of wars or "natural" causes, how often do 20k people die in a modern, developed country in the span of a month?

A virus IS a 'natural cause'.

Unless you can prove it was manufactured and released intentionally as a mass murder device?

 

[pmv]

And yet you post it ....

Why do you specialise in posting meaningless one-liners that contribute nothing to the substance of any discussion? Why not actually contribute to the wider topic subject at hand, instead of just saying whatever random nit-picking quibble comes into your head in response to individual posts? Look back at your comments and they are _all_ like that. What is the point of it supposed to be, other than to add meaningless noise?

I was _hoping_ someone might have some deeper knowledge of that topic of virus behaviour as described in the article - and also have some views as to the reliability or political-leanings of the South China Post. But thanks for your meaningless quibble, it really added a lot.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Why do you specialise in posting meaningless ...

... sensationalism and dramatics?

 

[pmv]

... sensationalism and dramatics?

Oh look, another one-liner that contributes nothing useful.

 

[manly]

Avg number of deaths in the USA per day is between 7 and 8 thousand. So every 3 days more than 20k die. How can you say a virus is not a natural cause? Further, some of the dead were near death already and would have been part of that number anyway.

Source is cdc data.

Sorry that I stated it clumsily, but the point is that for a new disease, tens of thousands of deaths in a matter of 2 months is not insignificant (even considering global population). Diseases are natural causes, but heart disease and cancer generally take many years to develop and claim lives.

Everyone eventually dies, so that's beside the point. Covid-19 certainly takes down mostly the elderly frail, but who's to say they were going to die anytime this year?

Put another way, the fact that virtually all governments of the world are forcing their own economies into recessions just to keep the body count in the tens of thousands tells us the headline number of deaths is not just mainstream media hype. That was the discussion point I was responding to.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Sorry that I stated it clumsily, but the point is that for a new disease, tens of thousands of deaths in a matter of 2 months is not insignificant (even considering global population). Diseases are natural causes, but heart disease and cancer generally take many years to develop and claim lives.

Everyone eventually dies, so that's beside the point. Covid-19 certainly takes down mostly the elderly frail, but who's to say they were going to die anytime this year?

Put another way, the fact that virtually all governments of the world are forcing their own economies into recessions just to keep the body count in the tens of thousands tells us the headline number of deaths is not just mainstream media hype. That was the discussion point I was responding to.

And who is to say they weren't?

I'm more concerned that the numbers are being overstated, but I haven't yet figured out why. It's like a game of three dimensional chess with hundreds of levels and only a small handful know the next moves or the reasons for the last ones.

 

[CZroe]

Why do you specialise in posting meaningless one-liners that contribute nothing to the substance of any discussion? Why not actually contribute to the wider topic subject at hand, instead of just saying whatever random nit-picking quibble comes into your head in response to individual posts? Look back at your comments and they are _all_ like that. What is the point of it supposed to be, other than to add meaningless noise?

I was _hoping_ someone might have some deeper knowledge of that topic of virus behaviour as described in the article - and also have some views as to the reliability or political-leanings of the South China Post. But thanks for your meaningless quibble, it really added a lot.

Well, SCMP is definitely state-run media but it may have no bearing on the article in question. *Shrug*

 

[H T C]

Sorry that I stated it clumsily, but the point is that for a new disease, tens of thousands of deaths in a matter of 2 months is not insignificant (even considering global population). Diseases are natural causes, but heart disease and cancer generally take many years to develop and claim lives.

Everyone eventually dies, so that's beside the point. Covid-19 certainly takes down mostly the elderly frail, but who's to say they were going to die anytime this year?

Put another way, the fact that virtually all governments of the world are forcing their own economies into recessions just to keep the body count in the tens of thousands tells us the headline number of deaths is not just mainstream media hype. That was the discussion point I was responding to.

No. The reason countries are forcing their own economies into recession is because they want to prevent their health systems from collapsing.

Just look @ how NY is fairing right now: if the health system collapses, then medical problems that are usually "quite fixable" will suddenly be fatal, aggravating the problem further, and i'm not even referring to the patients that require ventilators.

According to this:



In NY alone there are over 42.5K hospitalized from COVID-19 alone.

If countries don't try to stop it from spreading, the number of hospitalized will escalate quickly beyond what hospitals can deal with.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

lol humans have their priorities...

Alcohol delivery app Drizly says it saw sales explode in the last week of March, climbing 537% above the company’s expectations, which it calculates based on sales from the previous 8 weeks.

What’s more, 42% of those orders came from new accounts. In fact, the company says new buyers on the platform jumped 900% year-over-year. (The company, however, wouldn’t provide its exact revenue or user numbers.)

Coronavirus spurs 'massive shift' in alcohol supply chain not seen since Prohibition: Drizly CEO

Online alcohol deliveries are through the roof. And delivery service Drizly is reaping the rewards.

finance.yahoo.com

 

[pmv]

Boris Johnson has been discharged from the hospital

It says he's recuperating and so not doing any Prime-ministerial work. So no change there, then.

I suspect if he'd been the age of a US Presidential-candidate he would not have emerged from hospital alive.

 

[pcgeek11]

That would make me run for cover...... and earplugs.

 

[JEDI]

for the $1200 virus stimulus checks, is the income limit on gross income (agi) or after deductions?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

for the $1200 virus stimulus checks, is the income limit on gross income (agi) or after deductions?

AGI. Basically line 8b of your 1040

 

[Svnla]

S. Korea government is saying there are many cases of recovered people that were cleared but test positive for the virus again. Damn.

South Korea: More recovered coronavirus patients test positive

At least 116 people cleared of the virus have tested positive again, raising questions for authorities.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Iron Woode]

Something I just read today is that around 1600 Ontario nurses work here and in Detroit.

They are being asked to stop working in Detroit for fear about spreading covid-19 here.

COVID-19: Canadian nurses working in U.S. are asked to pick a side

More than 1,300 people have died of the coronavirus in Michigan — nearly twice as many as in all of Canada

nationalpost.com

 

[kage69]

Something I just read today is that around 1600 Ontario nurses work here and in Detroit.

They are being asked to stop working in Detroit for fear about spreading covid-19 here.

COVID-19: Canadian nurses working in U.S. are asked to pick a side

More than 1,300 people have died of the coronavirus in Michigan — nearly twice as many as in all of Canada

nationalpost.com

Oh shit.

They helped a lot already though, so thank you Canada.

 

[K1052]

Coronavirus saliva test gets FDA emergency use approval, Rutgers University says

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/cor...rs-university-says.html?__source=twitter|main

Yes hello this is America. We would like 500M please.

 

[manly]

No. The reason countries are forcing their own economies into recession is because they want to prevent their health systems from collapsing.

Just look @ how NY is fairing right now: if the health system collapses, then medical problems that are usually "quite fixable" will suddenly be fatal, aggravating the problem further, and i'm not even referring to the patients that require ventilators.

According to this:

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In NY alone there are over 42.5K hospitalized from COVID-19 alone.

If countries don't try to stop it from spreading, the number of hospitalized will escalate quickly beyond what hospitals can deal with.

Umm, we're saying the same thing here. A high CFR (deaths) is directly correlated to collapse of local health care systems. My original point is that anyone who is suggesting that 20k deaths really isn't all that many isn't paying close enough attention to what's gotten the U.S. to this point.

I can't begin to understand the posters who are suggesting some of these people were on their death beds anyway, or that Covid-19 death counts are some media hoax.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

No. The reason countries are forcing their own economies into recession is because they want to prevent their health systems from collapsing.

Just look @ how NY is fairing right now: if the health system collapses, then medical problems that are usually "quite fixable" will suddenly be fatal, aggravating the problem further, and i'm not even referring to the patients that require ventilators.

According to this:

View attachment 19551

In NY alone there are over 42.5K hospitalized from COVID-19 alone.

If countries don't try to stop it from spreading, the number of hospitalized will escalate quickly beyond what hospitals can deal with.

42,500 / 8.4 million represents 1 in 200. That's 5% which 'seems' high but this is for a dense capita condition. Conversely, the greater Atlanta metro population is 5.6 million and if we assume everyone of those 2518 cases is in this region that is only 1 in 2200. I think NYC issue was mass transit. Atlanta doesn't really have a full-on mass transit system. MARTA is a joke and a product of real estate developers, not transportation authorities. Atlantians spend a good bit of time in transit in their own personal vehicles and the only time in-contact with others is either at our points of origin or destination and not the 15-20 hours a week we spend in our cars for work. If I spent 15-20 hours/week in crowded mass transit system I bet I would catch COVID19 10 times easier.

 

[shortylickens]

I just watched the new episode of Saturday Night Live.
It was horrible.

They should probably just stop trying until they can all work together on set.

 

[ultimatebob]

I just watched the new episode of Saturday Night Live.
It was horrible.

They should probably just stop trying until they can all work together on set.

Most of the show is usually terrible anyway. We tend to forget that out of an hour program, usually 1 or 2 skits are actually funny in a typical episode.

 

[CZroe]

Most of the show is usually terrible anyway. We tend to forget that out of an hour program, usually 1 or 2 skits are actually funny in a typical episode.

...and that's generous.