NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[Captante]

I've found Walgreens and CVS to be severely understaffed. I don't blame the people working the pharmacies there, they're mostly doing the best they can.

Totally!

The people in my local CVS are super-nice but the corporate entity that is CVS sucks unwashed hairy donkey balls in hell and I've had it. (and from what I've heard Walgreens is even worse now!)

 

[K1052]

Walgreens operates under the idea that if a pharmacy is doing well then they can cut hours until it starts performing badly. Of course they blame the people working there when that happens too, couldn't possibly be the lack of workers.

Yeah, fairly clear both of them operate under a "the beatings will continue until productivity improves" ethos. Large supermarket chains don't usually seem to have the same problem in my experience.

 

[Captante]

Yeah, fairly clear both of them operate under a "the beatings will continue until productivity improves" ethos. Large supermarket chains don't usually seem to have the same problem in my experience.

This is a big part of the reason I buy 99% of my groceries at Stop & Shop (New England supermarket chain) despite them not having the lowest prices.

While it did take a strike to get it done, at this point everyone working there is making a "living wage" unlike the cesspool that is Walmart and most other large non-union chain-stores.

 

[Muse]

CVS and Walgreen's say:
"A CVS spokesperson said its pharmacies expect to get updated booster doses on a rolling basis over the next few days. People can make appointments as usual on CVS’ website or its app.

Walgreens similarly said people can make appointments to get updated boosters through its website or its app or over the phone."

https://www.vaccines.gov/search/ doesn't seem to have them yet.

Your post got me on the right path. Using the online scheduling systems...

Walgreens wanted to send me to San Francisco, WTH, a long trip. CVS has a location ~ 5 miles away, I scheduled there online. I am pretty sure it said Bivalent booster, and I think that means the new one, I am on hold waiting to talk to a pharmacist to confirm it is the new one. I'm scheduled in 4 days, Sept. 6 @ 5PM.

So, I get a live person and she tells me they are no longer providing the old vaccines and only the new Bivalent Omicron variant specific boosters will be administered. Info online says the old shots were "monovalent."

 

[nakedfrog]

Pondering what to do about the booster situation since I caught my infection at the end of June.

 

[K1052]

Pondering what to do about the booster situation since I caught my infection at the end of June.

Probably get it in Oct/Nov around the time of flu shots.

 

[Captante]

Pondering what to do about the booster situation since I caught my infection at the end of June.

"Official" medical advice seems to be that you should still get the new booster asap even if you had Covid recently. (although I would suggest waiting until fully recovered at minimum)

 

[Muse]

Yeah, fairly clear both of them operate under a "the beatings will continue until productivity improves" ethos. Large supermarket chains don't usually seem to have the same problem in my experience.

I had a great experience getting my 2nd booster at Safeway supermarket. Well, I'm scheduled at CVS this time. I got my 1st booster at a close-by CVS. It was OK.

 

[Muse]

Pondering what to do about the booster situation since I caught my infection at the end of June.

IIRC it said 3 months from infection is OK, was reading up on this stuff last night. Read that NY Times link I posted here yesterday, it has lots of details. Guidelines are not cut and dried, it's kinda YMMV situation too.

 

[Captante]

I had a great experience getting my 2nd booster at Safeway supermarket. Well, I'm scheduled at CVS this time. I got my 1st booster at a close-by CVS. It was OK.

The staff in the local stores themselves isn't the problem.... good freaking luck getting an actual pharmacist on the phone!

 

[allisolm]

Pondering what to do about the booster situation since I caught my infection at the end of June.

Probably get it in Oct/Nov around the time of flu shots.

"Official" medical advice seems to be that you should still get the new booster asap even if you had Covid recently. (although I would suggest waiting until fully recovered at minimum)

From the CDC site:

When you can wait
If you recently had COVID-19, you may consider delaying your next vaccine dose (primary dose or booster) by 3 months from when your symptoms started or, if you had no symptoms, when you first received a positive test. Reinfection is less likely in the weeks to months after infection. However, certain factors, such as personal risk of severe disease, local COVID-19 community level, and the most common COVID-19 variant currently causing illness, could be reasons to get a vaccine sooner rather than later.

What to Expect at Your Appointment to Get Vaccinated for COVID-19

These tips will help you know what to expect when you get vaccinated.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Muse]

The staff in the local stores themselves isn't the problem.... good freaking luck getting an actual pharmacist on the phone!

I talked to a couple today, one Walgreens (although she didn't want to converse), and the one at the CVS (in a Target) where I'll get my shot on Tuesday... she was reasonably willing to talk and answer questions, although the things she was saying were boilerplate. Bad connection, just happens all the time, but I found out what I needed to know.

It's great except for one thing. For some reason I can't determine I can't find any of the emails CVS is sending me in my email client.

Edit: screwed up email filter had those CVS emails going in an unexpected place.

 

[Captante]

I talked to a couple today, one Walgreens (although she didn't want to converse), and the one at the CVS (in a Target) where I'll get my shot on Tuesday... she was reasonably willing to talk and answer questions, although the things she was saying were boilerplate. Bad connection, just happens all the time, but I found out what I needed to know.

I'm thinking you got lucky if you got her on the phone in a reasonable period of time.... the poor pharmacist @ Unity told me she AVERAGES 30 to 40 minutes on hold when she has to call CVS and that's as a "provider"! (and she also said CVS is doing BETTER than Walgreens in that department lol)


Seems to me from reading @allisolm 's post above (and following the link) the CDC are only saying that "you may wait 90 days" because you most likely have increased immunity already from having the virus NOT that it's a good idea or due to some "risk-factor".

 

[nakedfrog]

We just had our lowest weekly case count in the county since April, and are down to a 10.3% positivity rate
Going to a couple indoor concerts in mid-October so I may aim for early October.

 

[Captante]

Per MayoClinic.com: (Jan 2022)


How soon can you get vaccinated after recovering from COVID-19?

"After testing positive for COVID-19, you will need to postpone getting vaccinated until your symptoms have resolved and you've met the criteria for discontinuing isolation. This timeline can vary by person, depending on your symptom severity and the treatments you may have received."


The "must wait 90 days" thing is inaccurate in terms of the vaccine.

"One caveat: If you received monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, you will need to wait 90 days before getting the booster"

 

[Muse]

We just had our lowest weekly case count in the county since April, and are down to a 10.3% positivity rate
Going to a couple indoor concerts in mid-October so I may aim for early October.

I am scheduled for an indoor concert in 3 days. I didn't even think about it, but I'll wear a 3M N95. It's all seated and the club is IIRC, pretty well spaced out. Tables and booths.

 

[Captante]

I had a great experience getting my 2nd booster at Safeway supermarket. Well, I'm scheduled at CVS this time. I got my 1st booster at a close-by CVS. It was OK.

Hmmmm.... My local Stop & Shop has a pharmacy maybe I'll check them out for the booster. (I want to get my flu-shot early this year too!)

 

[allisolm]

Pondering what to do about the booster situation since I caught my infection at the end of June.

You could always follow Dr Fauci's actions:

"Myself as an example, I was vaccinated, doubly boosted and infected, and I will be getting the updated BA.4/5 bivalent vaccine within three months of my having gotten infected, exactly the way the FDA has authorized and the CDC has recommended," Fauci said"

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Everything you need to know about the updated Covid-19 boosters | CNN

There's a new kind of Covid-19 shot coming to a pharmacy or clinic near you.

www.cnn.com

 

[nakedfrog]

You could always follow Dr Fauci's actions:

"Myself as an example, I was vaccinated, doubly boosted and infected, and I will be getting the updated BA.4/5 bivalent vaccine within three months of my having gotten infected, exactly the way the FDA has authorized and the CDC has recommended," Fauci said"

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Everything you need to know about the updated Covid-19 boosters | CNN

There's a new kind of Covid-19 shot coming to a pharmacy or clinic near you.

www.cnn.com

I thought I had some data kicking around in my head about the natural antibodies waning after six months, but y'all have provided sufficient data for me to go ahead and plan on early October

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I’ll get the updated version probably in November. 30 days ago I had the Moderna boost to the boost. COVID cases are fairly low in MA at the moment. I figure even the old cocktail seems to protect well vs hospitalization which is good enough for me.
I fully intend on getting the updated vaccination, trying to time it so the updated version gets me thru the holidays (I totally know this is like market timing and I shouldn’t do it so don’t lecture me)

 

[Geekbabe]

I had COVID at the end of May, it was pretty bad even with Paxlovid. I got my 2nd booster (Pfizer) on August 12. I am considered high risk & am trying to figure out when to get the new booster & which brand to get. I have had Pfizer for all my shots, should I stick with that or switch to Moderna for the next booster?

 

[Brainonska511]

I had COVID at the end of May, it was pretty bad even with Paxlovid. I got my 2nd booster (Pfizer) on August 12. I am considered high risk & am trying to figure out when to get the new booster & which brand to get. I have had Pfizer for all my shots, should I stick with that or switch to Moderna for the next booster?

Since the shots basically work the same way, if you want another booster, I'd get whatever you could get soonest without worrying about the brand.

 

[Red Squirrel]

China seems to still be doing the full blown house arrest stuff and using drones to tell people to stay inside.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/x558jz

 

[Captante]

China seems to still be doing the full blown house arrest stuff and using drones to tell people to stay inside.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/x558jz

Welcome to City 17!

wtf....

 

[allisolm]

I had COVID at the end of May, it was pretty bad even with Paxlovid. I got my 2nd booster (Pfizer) on August 12. I am considered high risk & am trying to figure out when to get the new booster & which brand to get. I have had Pfizer for all my shots, should I stick with that or switch to Moderna for the next booster?

The way I read it, the authorization says you have to wait 2 months from the last booster to get the new one. I don't think it matters which one you get. I've had moderna for all 4 so far and will probably try to stick to that simply because the side effects have been so minimal for me. Hate to mess with success.

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration amended the emergency use authorizations... to authorize bivalent formulations of the vaccines for use as a single booster dose at least two months following primary or booster vaccination."

"Individuals 12 years of age and older are eligible for a single booster dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent if it has been at least two months since they have completed primary vaccination or have received the most recent booster dose with any authorized or approved monovalent COVID-19 vaccine."

"Individuals 18 years of age and older are eligible for a single booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent if it has been at least two months since they have completed primary vaccination or have received the most recent booster dose with any authorized or approved monovalent COVID-19 vaccine."

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech Bivalent COVID-19 Vaccines for Use as a Booster Dose

The FDA authorized bivalent formulations of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for use as a single booster dose.

www.fda.gov