NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[local]

I will be walking all over a college campus tomorrow. Might be a little early to put this vaccine to the test but duty calls or some such thing.

 

[Muse]

If people really want the experience they should just book the cheapest 3 star hotel and casino they can find in Vegas, demand they put you in the smallest room available, and just spin in the desk chair for 5 minutes every hour to simulate being at sea. It's literally no different.

I suppose you're talking about a cruise ship. I've never been on one and don't figure to considering the nasty things that happen on them not infrequently. I think there's a real good chance I'd regret booking one anyway.

 

[Muse]

I will be walking all over a college campus tomorrow. Might be a little early to put this vaccine to the test but duty calls or some such thing.

I don't think you should act any different. Assume you're just as vulnerable as anybody. It's not your duty to get sick or risk it.

 

[local]

I don't think you should act any different. Assume you're just as vulnerable as anybody. It's not your duty to get sick or risk it.

I am well aware of that, but does not change the fact that I will be going through the dorms of a school. Work is work and mask will be worn.

 

[Ajay]

If you aren't getting infections in the vaccine arm then it is significant. Being beta testers to some degree is unavoidable since some super rare adverse effects may not show until you've got millions of doses in people. That don't mean it's a bad idea as far as I'm concerned since everything has a risk profile.

I don't even know about 'super rare'. I think phase III studies for pharmaceuticals are typically around 3 years; and even some of those show some alarming side effects after a few years in the gen pop and get a black label and eventually are pulled. I suppose this is my major concern wrt to being beta testers. I think Moderna (and the other two) have published interim data and protocols in PDFs recently. I should read at least one.

 

[Homerboy]

Gov. Evers just bumped up the mask mandate for another 2 months

Gov. Evers declares public health emergency over college outbreaks, issues new face-coverings order

Gov. Tony Evers declared a new public health emergency over an increase in college outbreaks. Evers also issued a new face-covering order.

www.tmj4.com

The colleges here in WI are just super spreader havens. My son is a freshman and has been home for 2 weeks due to isolation requirement (and was in quarantine for a week before that)

 

[K1052]

I don't even know about 'super rare'. I think phase III studies for pharmaceuticals are typically around 3 years; and even some of those show some alarming side effects after a few years in the gen pop and get a black label and eventually are pulled. I suppose this is my major concern wrt to being beta testers. I think Moderna (and the other two) have published interim data and protocols in PDFs recently. I should read at least one.

An mRNa vaccine isn't something I'm going to be taking every day for the rest of my life though. Adverse effects seem most likely to crop up soon after injection not a few years down the line.

 

[Ajay]

An mRNa vaccine isn't something I'm going to be taking every day for the rest of my life though. Adverse effects seem most likely to crop up soon after injection not a few years down the line.

Good point.

 

[jmagg]

Cruise ship = floating petri dish.

 

[K1052]

Looks like the FDA is giving the standard for issuing a vaccine EUA a couple nudges up, which is probably a good idea.
The glowing aura of political interference this process has taken on is counterproductive.

As a sign the vaccine works, the agency also is looking for at least five severe cases of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, in the placebo group for each trial, as well as some cases of the disease in older people. These standards, plus the time it will take companies to prepare their applications and the agency to review the data, make it highly improbable for any vaccine to be authorized before the election. The agency has previously said any vaccine would have to be 50 percent more effective than a placebo.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1308499369365209093

 

[CZroe]

Gov. Evers just bumped up the mask mandate for another 2 months

Gov. Evers declares public health emergency over college outbreaks, issues new face-coverings order

Gov. Tony Evers declared a new public health emergency over an increase in college outbreaks. Evers also issued a new face-covering order.

www.tmj4.com

The colleges here in WI are just super spreader havens. My son is a freshman and has been home for 2 weeks due to isolation requirement (and was in quarantine for a week before that)

So, your son got sick? Hope he gets well soon.

 

[Homerboy]

So, your son got sick? Hope he gets well soon.

No he didn't - his dorm floor was put under quarantine after "exposure to a positive test".

6 days later they tested the kids on the floor and his roommate (who he was locked up with with 6 days) tested positive and moved to isolation.
Our son was tested and was found negative. He was told due to his immediate close contact for so long also had to be moved to the isolation dorms (it's basically a solitary confinement situation - bring your laptop, phone, change of clothes and not much else). So we drove up to get him and bring him home and he did isolation for 2 weeks back at home. He can return Friday. Basically he's been removed from the world for what will be 3 weeks. He just tested negative so we're pretty sure he's in the clear.

Just been a long hard road for a freshman. But he admitted that he and most the people "weren't exactly sticking to the rules" so...

 

[CZroe]

No he didn't - his dorm floor was put under quarantine after "exposure to a positive test".

6 days later they tested the kids on the floor and his roommate (who he was locked up with with 6 days) tested positive and moved to isolation.
Our son was tested and was found negative. He was told due to his immediate close contact for so long also had to be moved to the isolation dorms (it's basically a solitary confinement situation - bring your laptop, phone, change of clothes and not much else). So we drove up to get him and bring him home and he did isolation for 2 weeks back at home. He can return Friday. Basically he's been removed from the world for what will be 3 weeks. He just tested negative so we're pretty sure he's in the clear.

Just been a long hard road for a freshman. But he admitted that he and most the people "weren't exactly sticking to the rules" so...

Ah. Yes, that would be the other reason to distinguish isolation from quarantine. Glad he's OK.

 

[Homerboy]

Ah. Yes, that would be the other reason to distinguish isolation from quarantine. Glad he's OK.

Yeah sorry I typed that original response like everyone knew WTH I was talking about

 

[Exterous]

We encountered any annoying intersection of HIPPA\FERPA and COVID this week. 11 kids were pulled out of school by 4th hour this week for unspecified reasons. My wife had already had two of them in class. Due to the rules you can't discuss why they aren't there. So did any of those students test positive for COVID? When did potential exposure happen? Sorry - tough shit you just gotta wait to see if you get a text from Wanye Country Public Health in the near future with vague details if they think you're at risk.

Fortunately its a small school so all the kids knew way more details than the staff so by yesterday we know it is very unlikely my wife was exposed. This time.

 

[K1052]

J&J starts phase 3 of their adenovirus based shot. Upsides are possibly single dose and just refrigeration required for storage.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1308719333670092801

 

[Scarpozzi]

J&J starts phase 3 of their adenovirus based shot. Upsides are possibly single dose and just refrigeration required for storage.

Awesome news. That would speed up distribution for sure.

 

[K1052]

Awesome news. That would speed up distribution for sure.

Yes, it would make it a lot easier to deploy than say Pfizer's vaccine. I expect that the higher cold chain requirement mRNA vaccines will probably still be successful and reach very initial distribution late this year but I still kind of doubt we'll be getting them (slight chance Moderna's) in our local CVS or Walgreens ever.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Yes, it would make it a lot easier to deploy than say Pfizer's vaccine. I expect that the higher cold chain requirement mRNA vaccines will probably still be successful and reach very initial distribution late this year but I still kind of doubt we'll be getting them (slight chance Moderna's) in our local CVS or Walgreens ever.

The single dose vaccine just looks sketch though:

 

[Ichinisan]

The single dose vaccine just looks sketch though:
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WTF is going on in that picture? Draining an abscess or cyst?

 

[Spacehead]

WTF is going on in that picture?

I was wondering the same thing. That looks like a lot of vaccine.


I don't know if these things do any good or not but PA has released a contact tracing & alert app.

The COVID Alert PA app uses Bluetooth technology on cell phones to determine if individuals have been within 6 feet of a person who’s tested positive for COVID-19 for more than 15 minutes.

Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine said the new app which is available in the App Store for iPhones and Android devices will not provide the state with information about residents’ travel. People will be automatically notified that they’ve been in the proximity of someone who’s tested positive for COVID-19 and invited to contact the Health Department, she said.

Delaware launched the same app last week. New Jersey and New York are expected to follow suit by October, she said. As a result, the Pennsylvania app will notify people if they’ve come into contact with people with COVID-19 in the neighboring states, as well.

 

[Ichinisan]

I was wondering the same thing. That looks like a lot of vaccine.

The article has a different picture now.

 

[CZroe]

The article has a different picture now.

Well, I've still got it.

 

[Brainonska511]

Well, I've still got it.

They probably took some stupid stock photo

 

[gorobei]

that looks like a liposuction procedure photo and not vaccination shot.