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zinfamous

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gas lighting is perhaps the stupidest term ever concocted in recent times.

It essentially translates to: "You stated a fact that makes me butt-hurt, so I find it offensive and thus you're provoking my anger".

you have no idea what gaslighting means. It's also been around for almost 100 years, maybe longer. No, it wasn't recently concocted. Just because it's "new to you," your ignorance doesn't provide a valid value judgement on its efficacy.

anyway, the stupidest term concocted in "recent times" is "half a brain." I see it used constantly by half-brained people.
 

Red Squirrel

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Never heard of the term until recently(ish) myself. It started around the time Trump got elected. Never really figured out exactly what it means myself, it just tends to randomly get thrown around. That, and astroturfing. But think that's more a Reddit thing.
 
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Never heard of the term until recently(ish) myself. It started around the time Trump got elected. Never really figured out exactly what it means myself, it just tends to randomly get thrown around. That, and astroturfing. But think that's more a Reddit thing.

Thats because you speak that Canadian English stuff
 

CZroe

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Woke up with a bit of a cough that went away somewhat quickly. Decided to schedule another free test, especially since I had muscle soreness on Monday despite not doing anything to cause it. I did encounter someone a few days earlier (a week ago now) who was coughing like crazy and pulled down her mask while coughing (worst time to do that!). She assured me she wasn't sick and that it was "just the heat" but, well, I've never had a heat-related coughing fit and never heard of anyone else doing that.

Georgia's free testing required me to answer a questionaire but does not require symptoms. It only took seconds and I was on the page to pick a time slot for tomorrow. It seemed that all time slots were available, so I picked the earliest one (9:30AM). Painless. Guess I'll be swinging by before work tomorrow.

Last time I had my results in less than a day though they were saying 3-5 days. Same thing when my brother got tested a couple weeks later. Guess we'll find out if that's still the case now. Regardless, there doesn't seem to be any issue getting tested if you want to get tested in Georgia so it's still bizarre that the mayor of Atlanta would imply that the money from the Governor's lawsuit could be spent on more testing. I agree that the lawsuit was unwarranted, but she of all people should know that the bottleneck for testing is simply convincing more people to take advantage of the free tests and get tested.

Just got back yesterday from being in the hospital for 2 straight nights for the delivery of our 2nd son.

It was interesting being in the hospital for 2 nights with covid being a thing. The very first nurse we had was probably in her late 20's or early 30's and one of the first things she told us was about wearing masks in the room. She was fine with us not wearing masks because she knows that all women giving birth are tested prior and she knew my wife was negative. When I told her I had tested negative that same day she was even cooler with it. She also told us that some of the older nurses may be a bit different about it and want us to wear them.

Pretty much every nurse/doctor that came in was fine with us not wearing them while they were in the room, or at least they never said anything, other than the lady who gave our son a bath. She just asked that we wear them if we are near her watching the baby so obviously we did that. But even when some other doctors came in and were close to me I would just put mine on real quick while they are there. I mean it really is not a big deal at all.

If we left the room we had to put a mask on to walk around the hospital. I was not allowed to leave the premise for 2 days but I asked multiple nurses if I could leave and go get food at a drive through and they said pretty much everyone at security would be fine with that depending on who is there. But they were now giving meals to the 1 guest allowed with the woman giving birth as well so every meal was provided, although not the best food lol. It was strange the 2nd day there because I can't remember a day ever in my life where I literally did not step outside. Not even to take the trash out or something during the quarantine, or to get the mail. That was literally a day I did not go outside. My wife didn't leave the room the entire stay until we were discharged.

Not being allowed to have visitors at all was also very nice. This being our second child, I remember how exhausting it was having all of this family and friends come visit us. There was never any down time. So not having to deal with any of that was great. And when I would walk around the hospital to get snacks or something, it was empty. I rarely saw anyone else other than nurses.

All in all I felt super comfortable there during this strange time. Back in March and then April when this all went down and got real bad, we were super concerned about having to be in a hospital in August because we didn't know what was going to be going on at that time. Thankfully MD has handled this pretty well comparatively. If we were giving birth in one of the hot spots right now it would have been way more stressful and uncomfortable.

Congratulations!
 
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zinfamous

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Never heard of the term until recently(ish) myself. It started around the time Trump got elected. Never really figured out exactly what it means myself, it just tends to randomly get thrown around. That, and astroturfing. But think that's more a Reddit thing.

it's not randomly tossed around. it has a meaning. If you cared to understand and appreciate the meaning, you wouldn't call it "random."
 
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thestrangebrew1

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Woke up with a bit of a cough that went away somewhat quickly. Decided to schedule another free test, especially since I had muscle soreness on Monday despite not doing anything to cause it. I did encounter someone a few days earlier (a week ago now) who was coughing like crazy and pulled down her mask while coughing (worst time to do that!). She assured me she wasn't sick and that it was "just the heat" but, well, I've never had a heat-related coughing fit and never heard of anyone else doing that.

Georgia's free testing required me to answer a questionaire but does not require symptoms. It only took seconds and I was on the page to pick a time slot for tomorrow. It seemed that all time slots were available, so I picked the earliest one (9:30AM). Painless. Guess I'll be swinging by before work tomorrow.

Last time I had my results in less than a day though they were saying 3-5 days. Same thing when my brother got tested a couple weeks later. Guess we'll find out if that's still the case now. Regardless, there doesn't seem to be any issue getting tested if you want to get tested in Georgia so it's still bizarre that the mayor of Atlanta would imply that the money from the Governor's lawsuit could be spent on more testing. I agree that the lawsuit was unwarranted, but she of all people should know that the bottleneck for testing is simply convincing more people to take advantage of the free tests and get tested.



Congratulations!

Just got tested this morning here in CA. I went to a place up in the foothills about 45 mins from me. My appt was at 9am, got there at 830am and was able to get right in. No lines, took 5 mins. They did the nasal swab in both nostrils vs the single nostril that was more invasive. They said 4-6 days return time, but I've averaged 3 days before. We'll see.
 
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Just got tested this morning here in CA. I went to a place up in the foothills about 45 mins from me. My appt was at 9am, got there at 830am and was able to get right in. No lines, took 5 mins. They did the nasal swab in both nostrils vs the single nostril that was more invasive. They said 4-6 days return time, but I've averaged 3 days before. We'll see.

Why is testing times so random? I had one done two weeks ago and was told 48 hours but I revived mine the next morning (16 hours give or take).
 

Spacehead

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1st of all, congrats @purbeast0! Nice to have some good news from time to time :)


I guess i'll be finding out how good/bad PA's initial UC claims times are :(
I just knew layoffs would start after the extra $600 ended. TBH, i don't really need it but hey, if they're giving it away...
 

K1052

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Why is testing times so random? I had one done two weeks ago and was told 48 hours but I revived mine the next morning (16 hours give or take).

Depends how busy the lab it's sent to is and if they've got enough reagent on hand that day to run all samples.
 

K1052

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Well congressional/WH talks have broken down. Reported the Dems came to 2T down from 3.4T and the WH essentially wanted to the 1T package the senate already proposed.

Supposedly Trump plans EOs on several items since he can't make a deal. There are going to be severe limits to this approach since he can't conjure this kind of money up through exec action legally. *edit* Er the plan is apparently to divert FEMA funds (during Hurricane season with 60 days left of gov funding) to unemployment payouts without congressional approval...I really dunno about that one.

Kicking out the fiscal supports at this time will have real and severe consequences for tens of millions of Americans.
 
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thestrangebrew1

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Why is testing times so random? I had one done two weeks ago and was told 48 hours but I revived mine the next morning (16 hours give or take).

Yea it depends on where the tests are sent to. I'm in the Central Valley, I guess we made news that' we're the new hot spot or at least one of them nationally so yay.... It'll be a few days at least before I get them. My stepson's gf didn't get her for almost 2 wks. And she had to call them to get the results. Might as well throw that test away.
 

JujuFish

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At least 76 years, actually


I wasn't sure if it was common before the film that made the term famous, or it was specifically coined by this very famous film (I think it was).
64 years, actually. The term is based on the film, but that didn't mean it was instantly used that year, particularly in the definition discussed. Merriam-Webster's earliest known use of it as the verb we're discussing here is 1956, or, as I said, 64 years ago.
 

destrekor

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64 years, actually. The term is based on the film, but that didn't mean it was instantly used that year, particularly in the definition discussed. Merriam-Webster's earliest known use of it as the verb we're discussing here is 1956, or, as I said, 64 years ago.

While we're actuallying -- like the bunch of nerds we are here -- it should also be noted that the first instance is actually the source play in 1938.

Actual common use, I haven't a clue. Something some people should keep in mind though is that once rarely used words can enter the lexicon like a meme, a concept bigger than the singular word, it really becomes a fad. It'll probably fade into disuse in time, at least if sanity ever returns, though we may be too far gone. It's also maybe redundant - can't we just say manipulative [asshole] and be done with it?

I wonder if it ever caught on with the gangstalker crowd?

oh and congrats @purbeast0 !
 
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So by now, everyone has probably seen that viral pic of that GA school that has opened....

My question to you is this: Judging by how packed as shit those hallways were.... Are masks really going to do jack shit?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for wearing them - but I went to a similar school system where schools were so packed that they had to have outside portable buildings for additional classrooms. There were certain areas in the hallways that were prone to "traffic jam" equivalents.

My point being is that masks in these types of places would be the difference between 98 people getting infected instead of 100. It won't do jack shit when you're within those close quarters with other humans. Suffice it to say, everyone in that school will have covid within a month..m masks or no masks.
 
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So by now, everyone has probably seen that viral pic of that GA school that has opened....

My question to you is this: Judging by how packed as shit those hallways were.... Are masks really going to do jack shit?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for wearing them - but I went to a similar school system where schools were so packed that they had to have outside portable buildings for additional classrooms. There were certain areas in the hallways that were prone to "traffic jam" equivalents.

My point being is that masks in these types of places would be the difference between 98 people getting infected instead of 100. It won't do jack shit when you're within those close quarters with other humans. Suffice it to say, everyone in that school will have covid within a month..m masks or no masks.

Im no expert but all indicators point towards yes it would.
BLM protestors were pretty good at wearing the masks and States didn’t see a huge uptick in cases.
I know I’m venturing into P&N territory so let’s tread carefully.
 
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Im no expert but all indicators point towards yes it would.
BLM protestors were pretty good at wearing the masks and States didn’t see a huge uptick in cases.
I know I’m venturing into P&N territory so let’s tread carefully.
Stuck in confined spaces (which like I said, many schools are so old they aren't built to spec with their current attendance) != Protests outside where you aren't confined to certain spaces.

Add on top of that the circulating AC air of being indoors, touching all kinds of objects, desks, etc...

Can't say the two are really comparable.

Also (and I'm not trying to make this political either) but there hasn't been any sort of legitimate study to indicate what spread was (or wasn't) caused by the protests
 

JujuFish

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While we're actuallying -- like the bunch of nerds we are here -- it should also be noted that the first instance is actually the source play in 1938.

Again, the verb was inspired by the film/play, but that doesn't make it the first instance, since it was not used as such in the film. This is readily available information here. 1956 is the first known use as a verb.

It would be like saying the first known use of milquetoast is 1924 because that is when the comic strip Caspar Milquetoast was invented. Rather, the first known use of milquetoast as a timid person is 1935.
 

Ichinisan

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spammer post removed


Still hung up on the "China virus" thing?

Seriously?

Get over it.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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So by now, everyone has probably seen that viral pic of that GA school that has opened....

My question to you is this: Judging by how packed as shit those hallways were.... Are masks really going to do jack shit?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for wearing them - but I went to a similar school system where schools were so packed that they had to have outside portable buildings for additional classrooms. There were certain areas in the hallways that were prone to "traffic jam" equivalents.

My point being is that masks in these types of places would be the difference between 98 people getting infected instead of 100. It won't do jack shit when you're within those close quarters with other humans. Suffice it to say, everyone in that school will have covid within a month..m masks or no masks.
It helps. The issue more is that the school district isn't even trying. They're overtly stating that they don't care if students get sick, possibly die, possibly infect other family members or members of the community and they also die. They didn't go for a halvsies approach or a vain, (ironically) uneducated attempt at opening with protections. They just said 'fuck it, everyone out of the life rafts and back on the boat, don't care if its sinking'.
 

JEDI

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