To this day, the CDC and WHO advise people to NOT BUY MASKS. I will STILL shame people who try to buy masks.
Most people don’t use face masks correctly, a Johns Hopkins public health expert told MarketWatch.
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Another failed gotcha.
You ain't got shit. I wasn't wrong then until the facts changed, and then my opinion CHANGED WITH THE FACTS.
What are you trying to achieve here Trumper?
I clearly stated I was wrong back in February WHEN THE WHO AND CDC changed their minds and updated my information.
STILL burying your head in the sand?
You know why they ask us not to buy masks? It even says right there in the article: They need them for healthcare workers. There's a reason healthcare workers need them. There's a reason China mandated them.
We are short because smart guys like CNN, print media, and
someone in this thread told Americans "Stop. Buying. Masks." right when people here should have been buying them, but weren't. You misidentified who was panic buying and stood by as most of our reserves got shipped out of the country back in January. If Americans had bought them most would still be here and people with extras could spare them for healthcare workers. Granted, China needed them more than we did back then, and I said as much, which is why I only bought one for myself and one for my mother. Doesn't change the fact that we and our healthcare workers would have been better off if we ignored you and CNN.
Your own link proves you wrong yet you deny it and call it another "failed gotcha?!" That's rich.
The official announcements regarding masks are carefully-worded to say that "surgical masks" are ineffective (not N95). When they mention N95 or better they invariably say that they are needed for healthcare workers... BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE.
The reason they are short is a direct consequence of people ignoring the real cause of them selling out from Amazon and medical supply places in January. I told you about the sites instructing Chinese on how to order from Amazon and US medical suppliers. I was more than happy to provide links/screenshots for you to see for yourself but you just flipped out, said I sounded like Alex Jones, then ran off. Now you can't bring yourself to admit the truth: We are in this mask situation because of people like you. You should have been speaking truth to power and calling out that CNN article. Instead you became a good little messenger for the shamelessly misinformed media.
It's not surprising to see you revert to your primal state when cornered by calling me a Trumper. For the record and to expose your feeble retort for what it was (shameless attempt to discredit me with politics): I voted against Trump. I've been consistently anti-Trump since he announced his candidacy and my post history reflects that. You aren't even a little ashamed to stoop that low when you are losing an argument?
...and LOL that your opinion "CHANGED WITH THE FACTS." The facts didn't change: You were just wrong, lying to yourself and others about "consensus." We told you from the start that it was moronic to base your argument on a CNN article based on WHO numbers from known-bad CCP numbers that directly contradict those on the ground. You chose to ignore the people who knew what was going on and just kept linking to CNN and proclaiming "consensus!" We told you and others spouting that "flu is worse" nonsense that you were demonstrably wrong but you just dug your heels in.
You act like you admitted you were wrong but your first several posts weeks later were just you blaming the government for making the same assumptions you did. Actually, the USA announced quarantines and travel restrictions from China *AGAINST* WHO recommendations on Jan 31, the last day you were still posting in this thread before I drug you back into it today. Though you've only been active in threads critical of our government's late response, it sounds like you were the one who raised alarm bells too late. In your mind we were damned if we didn't listen to CNN/WHO then and damned if we did now.
You're the hypocrite saying our government didn't act fast enough even though we acted while you and the WHO were still telling everyone NOT to. What a disgusting lack of self-awareness.
I can't roll my eyes hard enough. My last post here was in January. In January this was contained.
NO IT WAS NOT CONTAINED. Delusion.
And looked like it would stay contained.
NO IT DID NOT LOOK THAT WAY. More delusion.
As soon as THE CDC AND WHO said it was no longer contained, I no longer made those claims.
Don't hide behind that shield. You were told not to listen to the WHO and you were told why, and the CDC wasn't even allowed in. You knew better but you chose to mock the people telling you how we know better than that. We aren't just repeating what we heard on CNN. That was your mistake.
My opinions mirrored those of the medical experts at the time.
Absolutely not. Any medical expert can tell you that the total number of flu deaths has no bearing on how deadly a new disease will be just because it hasn't killed as many yet. If a plague that wipes out all of humanity started right now and had only just claimed it's first victim you could just as easily say "Yeah, but it's only killed one person. Flu is worse. You don't wait until it has killed as many as the flu to get concerned.
I mean... DUH. Imagine if the military waited until we were already half-wiped out to return fire just because losses weren't as bad
YET. "Yeah, but they've only killed a quarter of our troops. That other conflict was way worse." As bone-headed as it was I called you out much more politely then. You could have considered it and improved yourself but you chose to dig your heels in. Pathetic really.
As soon as the experts changed their opinions, I changed mine.
No. You are the only one claiming there was ever an expert consensus back then. Real "experts" bemoaned the lack of verifiable information and warned it was likely far worse. They never agreed on how bad it was, much less how bad it was going to get. You had a lot of WHO people saying "if" based on China's official numbers that we already knew were lies and a lot of news articles putting spins on that. You were warned. You chose to ignore the warnings and find articles with LAUGHABLE conclusions. Newsflash: CNN's conclusions about whether or not the flu is worse are not synonymous with "medical expert" conclusions just because they threw up some verifiable numbers. That piece was pseudo-intellectualism at it's finest.
I don't owe anyone shit. I admitted my previous information was incorrect and updated WELL ENOUGH IN ADVANCE for anyone to not be misinformed. I just didn't in this thread, but I did in the others. Frankly, I forgot about this thread and that's all I'll apologize for.
No. You didn't post about it in any coronavirus thread for over three weeks. After you mentioned this admission I looked at the first several posts across two other threads and found nothing but you blaming the government... without even a shred of self-awareness for making that same mistake yourself back in Jan.
Amazing.
Edit: Found it in the "how many will die" thread. Feb 28 was not "well in advance" of anything. Much of what we needed was long-gone.
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