No more nukes in Middle East says UN

[Oric]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10185256.stm



UN talks back conference on nuclear-free Middle East

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Iran has faced international pressure over its nuclear programme

Signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) have agreed to work towards a nuclear-weapons-free zone in the Middle East.

The members, meeting at the UN in New York, called for a conference in 2012 attended by Middle Eastern states - including Iran - to establish the zone.

The unanimously agreed document also said that Israel should sign the NPT.

 

[JEDIYoda]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10185256.stm



UN talks back conference on nuclear-free Middle East

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Iran has faced international pressure over its nuclear programme

Signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) have agreed to work towards a nuclear-weapons-free zone in the Middle East.

The members, meeting at the UN in New York, called for a conference in 2012 attended by Middle Eastern states - including Iran - to establish the zone.

The unanimously agreed document also said that Israel should sign the NPT.

That is not what this is saying at all!!
This article is saying that the signatories have agreed to work towards....it says nothing about no more nukes presently in the middle east!
You actually think it will happen...noway in hell!!!

Plus here is a better article......that goes more indepth...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100529/ap_on_re_us/un_nuclear_treaty

 

[JSt0rm]

jews are allowed to have nukes because they are white. Theflyingpig knows this and so should u

 

[SamurAchzar]

jews are allowed to have nukes because they are white. Theflyingpig knows this and so should u

No, Jews should have nukes as they are the only group in the Middle East that depends on them for their survival. If any country in the world is justified to have nukes based on its history, that would be Israel.

Now, I'm sure Israel would be happy to give up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for a complete, definite and unconditional peace with the Arabs. Do you think they would take it? No? Gee.

 

[Murloc]

I say: let's create a nuke-free zone in north america!

How about that?

 

[Hacp]

No, Jews should have nukes as they are the only group in the Middle East that depends on them for their survival. If any country in the world is justified to have nukes based on its history, that would be Israel.

Now, I'm sure Israel would be happy to give up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for a complete, definite and unconditional peace with the Arabs. Do you think they would take it? No? Gee.

WTF are you smoking? Who cares if Isreal gets run over?

 

[SamurAchzar]

WTF are you smoking? Who cares if Isreal gets run over?

Anyone humane enough to care about the possible genocide of about 5 million people, I'd guess. If you don't understand it yourself, there's little I can do to change that.

 

[Hacp]

Anyone humane enough to care about the possible genocide of about 5 million people, I'd guess. If you don't understand it yourself, there's little I can do to change that.

Israel is like any other country. It deserves no special treatment.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Israel is like any other country. It deserves no special treatment.

Tell that to the Arabs.

 

[Jaskalas]

I say: let's create a nuke-free zone in north america!

How about that?

Don't give the Libs any bright ideas. They might just try it.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Israel is like any other country. It deserves no special treatment.

damn another freaking idiot!!
What part of what is written below do you not understand?
Israel will never give up it`s nukes...that would be very foolish and would lead to total genocide of the Jewish state of Israel.

SamurAchzar - Jews (Israel) should have nukes as they are the only group in the Middle East that depends on them for their survival. If any country in the world is justified to have nukes based on its history, that would be Israel.

Now, I'm sure Israel would be happy to give up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for a complete, definite and unconditional peace with the Arabs. Do you think they would take it? No? Gee.

 

[JSt0rm]

damn another freaking idiot!!
What part of what is written below do you not understand?
Israel will never give up it`s nukes...that would be very foolish and would lead to total genocide of the Jewish state of Israel.

Thats fine but thats the main reason Iran is building nukes. I'm sure u are aware of this double standard?

Not that I care you see... You guys have nukes and they dont...for now. Maybe Israel will nuke them before they get them. Its the only way to be sure...

 

[Hacp]

damn another freaking idiot!!
What part of what is written below do you not understand?
Israel will never give up it`s nukes...that would be very foolish and would lead to total genocide of the Jewish state of Israel.

And who cares? All they do is bring us trouble then whine to the US when they need help. We should pull out of the Middle East and let them play their squabbles out.

 

[JEDIYoda]

And who cares? All they do is bring us trouble then whine to the US when they need help. We should pull out of the Middle East and let them play their squabbles out.

are you that big of an idiot???

We are not presently in the Middle east because of any whining Israel has done....
In when have we ever got involved using our own troops to help Israel in the middle east in a combat situation?

How do they bring us trouble?? Ah...sorry my bad they have not covered that yet in your Jr High School History class...my bad...sorry!

You obviouly donot care at all about anything other than making stoopid statements!!

 

[Narmer]

This is all a big joke. Israel has nukes and will never give them up so as to not suffer another Holocaust. Everyone else will see this and scream double standard and get their nukes, undermining Israel's powerful hand.

 

[Noobtastic]

No more nukes in the ME says UN?

Wow, good luck with that.

Iraq, Syria, North Korea, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have all pursued nuke technology unabated.

I have yet to see any meaningful criticism of a Muslim state by the UN.

I guess 3/4 of the world's oil resources and a history of killing critics earns the unchallenged respect of the global leftists and internationalists.

Nobody intelligent takes the UN seriously. It is a complete joke. It serves the interests of the most powerful nations, and wages lawfare against the unpopular. Notice all the genocides that have occurred and UN complicity in them.

There are nations who are part of on-going genocide that belong to the Human Rights Council - the most premier rights group on the planet.

I'd argue the Muslim states hijack the UN and use Israel as a lightening rod to cover up their own crimes.

Then again, even if Israel didn't exist I doubt the so-called enlightened Europeans and USA would make any meaningful effort to put pressure on the bigoted arab and muslim states.

don't want to sabotage all that trade.

 

[Lemon law]

Actually, Israel has a large enough military superiority to not need nukes for self defense.

And to some extent, initially, Israel could blame anti-antisemitism as a reason for being attacked by Arabs but that is no longer the case.

Given the way Israel has stolen land from and treated the Palestinian people, now gives all surrounding Arab countries and too many non neighboring countries perfectly justified and understandable reasons to dislike the current Israeli governments.

And having nukes just gives Israel too much in lulling itself into a false sense of security by doing nothing to alter their unacceptable behaviors that just keep driving up world wide hatreds against Israel.

Putting Israel on one side doing everything to prevent a viable Palestinian State against the entire rest of the world who are demanding that a viable Palestinian State start moving forward. Meanwhile the only way to defuse the terrorism directed at Israel is to restore the land taken from Palestinians.

And while Israel is presently a mid-east Goliath, both in nuclear and non nuclear terms, but compared to Nato, or Russia, or China, if Israel ever uses a single nuke, Israel is likely to get stepped on like an ant on the sidewalk.

Israel has only two viable futures, either a viable Palestinians State or it will be forced to assimilate the Palestinian people with full voting rights and with a right to return.

Meanwhile, even though many inside of Israel know this, Israel just keeps stalling things out making the forced to assimilate the Palestinians option the only alternative.

 

[Noobtastic]

Actually, Israel has a large enough military superiority to not need nukes for self defense.

What a crock of shit.

Israel developed nuclear weapons precisely for self defense.

If it didn't have nuclear weapons during yom kippur, it is likely the US would said fuck you when it asked for support.

The only reason the West supports Israel in post-cold war era is because it has the capacity to eliminate the oil muslim states in the event of a conflict.

It is only because it has defeated the Arabs in 5 consecutive conflicts that has created a peace.

Peace through strength.

Such a troll LL.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Thats fine but thats the main reason Iran is building nukes. I'm sure u are aware of this double standard?

Not that I care you see... You guys have nukes and they dont...for now. Maybe Israel will nuke them before they get them. Its the only way to be sure...

No, it's not and it never was. It's not even the clerics who originally drove the program. The moderate (relatively) secularists started the program long ago not because they feared Israel, but because of the Iraq/Iran war. That almost brought down both countries, and instead of risking another protracted war virtually guaranteed to ruin it, Iran decided to become a poison pill. If Iraq attacked, it would find itself slagged.

This is also why Saddam was interested in nukes. It was never about the US or Israel or expanding Islam or anything else. It was about preventing a disaster once narrowly averted involving these two nations.


Now Iran looks at the US as a potential threat and wishes to do the same thing. Make an attack and someone else will pay, probably Israel, but someone.

 

[JSt0rm]

No, it's not and it never was. It's not even the clerics who originally drove the program. The moderate (relatively) secularists started the program long ago not because they feared Israel, but because of the Iraq/Iran war. That almost brought down both countries, and instead of risking another protracted war virtually guaranteed to ruin it, Iran decided to become a poison pill. If Iraq attacked, it would find itself slagged.

This is also why Saddam was interested in nukes. It was never about the US or Israel or expanding Islam or anything else. It was about preventing a disaster once narrowly averted involving these two nations.


Now Iran looks at the US as a potential threat and wishes to do the same thing. Make an attack and someone else will pay, probably Israel, but someone.

ok thats all fine but they still "fear" Israel will strike out at them and want a deterrent.

 

[Noobtastic]

ok thats all fine but they still "fear" Israel will strike out at them and want a deterrent.

no they don't.

they invaded israel 3 times knowing full well it has nukes.

iran engages in blatant proxy wars without a fear of nuclear response.

everyone and their mother's know israel's program is predicated on self-defense an deterrent.

any nuclear program developed by a muslim state is not simply a threat to israel but a major cause of instability and could potentially threatened the flow of oil.

 

[SamurAchzar]

ok thats all fine but they still "fear" Israel will strike out at them and want a deterrent.

Really? I would think it makes more sense that they get the nukes to assure the control of their regime. You see, when they have nukes, no one will want to meddle in their politics for fear of nuclear weapons falling into militia groups, and they could extort basically whatever they want from the West. Just look at Pakistan, that's exactly how things played out there.

Seriously, defending themselves from Israel, a country they've been attacking by proxies for 20 years now, which doesn't even share a border with them? It's about as reasonable as claiming they are looking to defending themselves from the wrath of the Norwegians.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Given the way Israel has stolen land from and treated the Palestinian people, now gives all surrounding Arab countries and too many non neighboring countries perfectly justified and understandable reasons to dislike the current Israeli governments.

So be reversing your logic, it could be claimed that the day Palestinians have their state, all animosity towards Israel and the West would stop among Muslims. Is this correct?

 

[Hacp]

are you that big of an idiot???

We are not presently in the Middle east because of any whining Israel has done....
In when have we ever got involved using our own troops to help Israel in the middle east in a combat situation?

How do they bring us trouble?? Ah...sorry my bad they have not covered that yet in your Jr High School History class...my bad...sorry!

You obviouly donot care at all about anything other than making stoopid statements!!

So lets just pull all our troops out and be neutral in the middle east. I'm tired of wasting so much effort and money negotiating peace for isreal. Fuck that.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

jews are allowed to have nukes because they are white. Theflyingpig knows this and so should u

Or maybe the jews weren't stupid enough to sign a treaty which forbade them the development of a nuclear program.