Nikki Haley said, "America has never been a racist country"

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Is Nikki Haley correct, "America has never been a racist country"?


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sdifox

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So you think the discrimination part was counting as a partial human instead of as not a human?

I agree that a null count would've been better for the slaves and free states, but I thought your complaint was them not being counted as a full person.
The problem was trying to appease racists. The whole three fifth compromise is racist as well.
 

MtnMan

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I guess if you ignore the whole slavery thing, what we did to the native americans, chinese exclusion act, denigrating every immigrant group that wasn't English at one time or another, jim crow laws, redlining, etc, etc, etc. She could come to that conclusion.
I'm old enough that I remember colored and white public restrooms, colored and white water fountains, and a sign on city buses, "colored to the rear", and I attended segregated schools.

Nothing racist about that...
 

iRONic

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I'm old enough that I remember colored and white public restrooms, colored and white water fountains, and a sign on city buses, "colored to the rear", and I attended segregated schools.

Nothing racist about that...
*nods* In 1982 I moved to Youngsville, LA. A dive bar called “T Johns” displayed the Whites Only sign. My ex-wife went into the first grocery store we rolled up to for some aspirin and promptly came out crying “The store for white folks is a block over” she blurted!
 

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People say that only counting slaves as 3/5th of a person was racist, because it says slaves were less than a person. I say the racist part was the slave part. Without the 3/5 counting slavery would've continued much later and probably over many more states. The 3/5 counting limited the power of the enslavers, so it is weird to me it is held up as the example of racism in the US

The whole thing was a tangled knot of multiple strands of racism. The slavery part, obviously, but then on top of that, trying to have it all ways - denying they were human enough to vote themselves but still wanting to add them to your total so their owners' states would get more votes than everyone else, and then everybody tastelessly haggling over exactly how 'much' of a human a slave should count as, with the enslaved obviously getting no say at any stage of the process.

That it ended up as a 'compromise' shames everybody involved, including the non-slave-owning side. Why would you 'compromise' over something so fundamental?

It affects my attitude to the EU - "unity" and "coming together" should not take priority over every other issue. At some point you have to be prepared to tell the other members of your gang to go to hell or even to fight them. Don't 'bake in' disastrous moral compromises just to keep the gang together.
 
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GettyRoad

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All the most racist people I know don’t like to talk about race. Because when they do, it leads to confrontation. Because they are either racist or very prejudiced.

Everyone else I know isn’t going to bring the topic of race up out of the blue, but if the topic comes up in current events or conversation we can talk about it very casually with no stress or fear or division.

Think about it: why would talking about race even cause division, if one side believes in racial equality and inclusion? By process of elimination, what do you suppose the other side believes in?
Because it is an emotionally charged topic, and most people are not prepared to talk about it, I am, all the time, because I am not charged/animated about it. A lot of white Americans and even Black Americans are....hence they don't discuss it.
 

HomerJS

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Because it is an emotionally charged topic, and most people are not prepared to talk about it, I am, all the time, because I am not charged/animated about it. A lot of white Americans and even Black Americans are....hence they don't discuss it.
White conservatives are the only ones who actively try to avoid talking about it

Just move on
You are dividing the country
Stop talking about it and it will just go away
Medias fault
Stop being a victim
Both sides

How many times have we heard this as their response
 

Drach

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Because it is an emotionally charged topic, and most people are not prepared to talk about it, I am, all the time, because I am not charged/animated about it. A lot of white Americans and even Black Americans are....hence they don't discuss it.
Please don't try to pass your ass off as American. You obviously aren't.
What you ARE is the shittiest example of a ruzzian troll.
 
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outriding

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White conservatives are the only ones who actively try to avoid talking about it

Just move on
You are dividing the country
Stop talking about it and it will just go away
Medias fault
Stop being a victim
Both sides

How many times have we heard this as their response
Don’t forget … Obama did it
 

GettyRoad

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The guy should report to his managers that ATPN cares little about what celebrities have to say.

However, conservatives care deeply about what celebrities have to say.
I know you don't, but celebrities are the original influencers. Who made AIDS a big issue? People like Madonna, Jane Fonda, Diana, Princess of Wales, or else the conservatives would not have given a damn and the story would have been swept to the rug.

Who helped MLK and Malcolm X during the Civil Rights Movement? Frank Sinatra, Paul Newman, Bing Crosby, etc.

Celebrities are influencers. Conservatives care about what celebrities have to say because celebrities lean too much to the left and conservatives react to that....

Had a Gary Sinise or a Tom Selleck had ran, the Democrats would have been finito in 2024. That is factual.
 

brycejones

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I know you don't, but celebrities are the original influencers. Who made AIDS a big issue? People like Madonna, Jane Fonda, Diana, Princess of Wales, or else the conservatives would not have given a damn and the story would have been swept to the rug.

Who helped MLK and Malcolm X during the Civil Rights Movement? Frank Sinatra, Paul Newman, Bing Crosby, etc.

Celebrities are influencers. Conservatives care about what celebrities have to say because celebrities lean too much to the left and conservatives react to that....

Had a Gary Sinise or a Tom Selleck had ran, the Democrats would have been finito in 2024. That is factual.
If you think this level of performance is going to save you from being sent to the front to soak up some bullets you are sadly mistaken.
 

Drach

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What a douchebag.
Literally everything coming out of this guys mouth is diarrhea .
 

GettyRoad

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White conservatives are the only ones who actively try to avoid talking about it

Just move on
You are dividing the country
Stop talking about it and it will just go away
Medias fault
Stop being a victim
Both sides

How many times have we heard this as their response
Morgan Freeman either gave them license to say that, or they misconstrued his statement....
 

HomerJS

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Morgan Freeman either gave them license to say that, or they misconstrued his statement....
Morgan is wrong. If he was right Republicans wouldn’t get caught racist gerrymandering blacks out of their political power. This was 2023.
 

GettyRoad

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Your kind of people. You are all up on Boomers cock
I'm not a conservative Republican. I'm a moderate Independent. Boomer is influential in my area (I live in tri-state NYC area), his radio show is listened to by a lot of law and order suburbanites that helped the GOP elect the George Santos of the world in the House.
 

Drach

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I'm not a conservative Republican. I'm a moderate Independent. Boomer is influential in my area (I live in tri-state NYC area), his radio show is listened to by a lot of law and order suburbanites that helped the GOP elect the George Santos of the world in the House.
 

Drach

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I'm not a conservative Republican. I'm a moderate Independent. Boomer is influential in my area (I live in tri-state NYC area), his radio show is listened to by a lot of law and order suburbanites that helped the GOP elect the George Santos of the world in the House.
So, youre surrounded by idiots?
 
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brycejones

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I'm not a conservative Republican. I'm a moderate Independent. Boomer is influential in my area (I live in tri-state NYC area), his radio show is listened to by a lot of law and order suburbanites that helped the GOP elect the George Santos of the world in the House.
Whatever Ivan
 
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GettyRoad

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So, youre surrounded by idiots?
In a sense yes. Those people elected Rudy Giuliani, Mike Bloomberg, Santos, approve of abusive stop and frisk, etc.
You can't call all of them idiots, because if they were idiots, they would not be first responders, etc.
 

brycejones

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In a sense yes. Those people elected Rudy Giuliani, Mike Bloomberg, Santos, approve of abusive stop and frisk, etc.
You can't call all of them idiots, because if they were idiots, they would not be first responders, etc.
US police departments have argued in court for the right to not hire candidates who are "too smart" so yeah Ivan.
 

GettyRoad

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US police departments have argued in court for the right to not hire candidates who are "too smart" so yeah Ivan.
True, US police departments employ blue collar/moderate income people....primarily White and Latino----Trump's base...