Nikki Haley said, "America has never been a racist country"

[zinfamous]

That's one dumb bitch


also:

I was just reading about a WWII Filipino U.S. Metal of Honor

 

[zinfamous]

OMG! ... now actually works again, if you just type ???

...bah, /confused/ is shit /confused/

 

[yottabit]

I don't think you understand conservatives. I live in a moderate suburb next to a conservative Northeast town. Those people don't like talking about race, they see themselves as colorblind, they don't like race, they adore LeBron James, Jalen Hurts, Jalen Brunson, sports figures that are black, etc.

They don't like DEI because they think it is racially divisive.

I am a moderate, I think DEI has some plusses, but it is causing division in the workplace, etc.

All the most racist people I know don’t like to talk about race. Because when they do, it leads to confrontation. Because they are either racist or very prejudiced.

Everyone else I know isn’t going to bring the topic of race up out of the blue, but if the topic comes up in current events or conversation we can talk about it very casually with no stress or fear or division.

Think about it: why would talking about race even cause division, if one side believes in racial equality and inclusion? By process of elimination, what do you suppose the other side believes in?

 

[zinfamous]

I don't think you understand conservatives. I live in a moderate suburb next to a conservative Northeast town. Those people don't like talking about race, they see themselves as colorblind, they don't like race, they adore LeBron James, Jalen Hurts, Jalen Brunson, sports figures that are black, etc.

They don't like DEI because they think it is racially divisive.

I am a moderate, I think DEI has some plusses, but it is causing division in the workplace, etc.

da, name-dropping from "list of american blacks" you found in your talking points folder. da. do work. and bullet points of "local WASP american living area--they call THE SUBURB"

fuck off, you racist Russian piece of shit. You don't live here.

 

[IronWing]

That's one dumb bitch


also:

F'... I shall go flaunt myself.

 

[sdifox]

It's baked into the constitution lol

Three-fifths Compromise - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Zorba]

It's baked into the constitution lol

Three-fifths Compromise - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I don't get why the 3/5th part is the part that is held up as the racist part. Without that the slave states would've had overwhelming power (more than they already did). It was the "all other persons" part that was racist.

 

[Amused]

I don't get why the 3/5th part is the part that is held up as the racist part. Without that the slave states would've had overwhelming power (more than they already did). It was the "all other persons" part that was racist.

wut?

 

[Zorba]

wut?

People say that only counting slaves as 3/5th of a person was racist, because it says slaves were less than a person. I say the racist part was the slave part. Without the 3/5 counting slavery would've continued much later and probably over many more states. The 3/5 counting limited the power of the enslavers, so it is weird to me it is held up as the example of racism in the US

 

[Amused]

People say that only counting slaves as 3/5th of a person was racist, because it says slaves were less than a person. I say the racist part was the slave part. Without the 3/5 counting slavery would've continued much later and probably over many more states. The 3/5 counting limited the power of the enslavers, so it is weird to me it is held up as the example of racism in the US

Mr brightside over here.

 

[fskimospy]

Mr brightside over here.

Well it is interesting that the people arguing to count slaves as less than a full person were those from states that had abolished slavery.

I don’t know if I would go as far as to say the constitution itself was racist but it was obviously very, very okay with racism.

 

[sdifox]

People say that only counting slaves as 3/5th of a person was racist, because it says slaves were less than a person. I say the racist part was the slave part. Without the 3/5 counting slavery would've continued much later and probably over many more states. The 3/5 counting limited the power of the enslavers, so it is weird to me it is held up as the example of racism in the US

You mean "Yes, we know you don't think they are humans but we are willing to let you count them as 3/5 of a human for representation."? That compromise itself is discriminatory.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well it is interesting that the people arguing to count slaves as less than a full person were those from states that had abolished slavery.

I don’t know if I would go as far as to say the constitution itself was racist but it was obviously very, very okay with racism.

It is an interesting perspective, and IMO shows two things, first the length the Union was willing to go to keep all the states are part of United States. And secondly, how deep racism has been entrenched in our country

 

[HomerJS]

I don't think you understand conservatives. I live in a moderate suburb next to a conservative Northeast town. Those people don't like talking about race, they see themselves as colorblind, they don't like race, they adore LeBron James, Jalen Hurts, Jalen Brunson, sports figures that are black, etc.

They don't like DEI because they think it is racially divisive.

I am a moderate, I think DEI has some plusses, but it is causing division in the workplace, etc.

Racists adore those people because they entertain them. Do you really think that negates them being racist?

This scene from a movie makes my point. The first time I watched it put a knot in my stomach.

Apparently Kevin McCarthy doesn't understand them either based on his quote.

 

[HomerJS]

The idea of America is not racist.
Republicans are not the ones who would get us there.

That idea was never followed from the start of the country.

 

[K1052]

That idea was never followed from the start of the country.

An A/V aid:

 

[Saylick]

People like you who object to DEI look up these 2 pictures and they illustrate why it is a good thing.

Barack Obama's last intern class picture
Donald Trump's first intern class picture

WH intern is one of the most prestigious gigs in the country. Obama's picture looks like America. Trump's looks like 1940's America.

Here's an honest assessment from ex-Speaker McCarty AFTER he had been deposed, commenting on the Republican Party.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if there’s conservatives out there who interpreted McCarthys observation as a good thing.

“Hell yeah. I see nothing wrong with that photo. I always wanted to be a part of a country club. You got to be rich to be a part of a country club. Who doesn’t want that?!”

 

[Zorba]

You mean "Yes, we know you don't think they are humans but we are willing to let you count them as 3/5 of a human for representation."? That compromise itself is discriminatory.

But it benefited the slaves over counting them as a full person. The slave owners wanted a full count and the anti-slavers wanted a null count. The discrimination part was that there were non-free, non-imprisoned persons.

 

[HomerJS]

An A/V aid:

Funny, true and sad all at once. Yet conservatives want to erase this part of history.

 

[brycejones]

Funny, true and sad all at once. Yet conservatives want to erase this part of history.

Just build a statue with a plaque on it and then there are no take backs on history.

 

[hal2kilo]

She needs someone to take that shovel out of her hand.

 

[sdifox]

But it benefited the slaves over counting them as a full person. The slave owners wanted a full count and the anti-slavers wanted a null count. The discrimination part was that there were non-free, non-imprisoned persons.

Why would the slaves get representation if they weren't deemed citizens? I mean they were deemed property.

 

[Zorba]

Why would the slaves get representation if they weren't deemed citizens? I mean they were deemed property.

So you think the discrimination part was counting as a partial human instead of as not a human?

I agree that a null count would've been better for the slaves and free states, but I thought your complaint was them not being counted as a full person.

 

[dank69]

So you think the discrimination part was counting as a partial human instead of as not a human?

I that a null count would've been better for the slaves and free states, but I thought your complaint was them not being counted as a full person.

Yeah I think calling them not a citizen would be less racist than calling them 3/5 of a person.

 

[Zorba]

Yeah I think calling them not a citizen would be less racist than calling them 3/5 of a person.

Not only citizens are counted everyone except non-taxed Indians.

At the end of the the racist part is we had non-free people, how they were counted isn't really the racist part.