New record numbers for Obama on the economy

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HendrixFan

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"PRINCETON, NJ -- A new low of 26% of Americans approve of President Barack Obama's handling of the economy, down 11 percentage points since Gallup last measured it in mid-May and well below his previous low of 35% in November 2010."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149042/New-Low-Approve-Obama-Economy.aspx

Only 1 in 4 Americans approve of the handling of the economy. Ouch.

Amazing that the number is that high, the economy is terrible.

Even if you think the Republicans are purposefully tying up things so the economy doesn't begin to recover, you still have to place alot of the blame on Obama for not being able to fight through that to get things done.
 

GuitarDaddy

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You righties sure are a lucky bunch, after your repubican messiah GWB totally betrayed you and stabbed you in the back and took all your 401k money and gave it to war mongers, the taliban, investment bankers and his wealthy buddys then we the people gave you a black man in the whitehouse on wich to focus your mis guided hate.

But it's becoming obvious you have much more pent up hatred than you can release in just one presidential term, so get ready for a repeat performance so you will have another four years to vent your frustrations. :)
 

xj0hnx

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traashman said:
It won't be Palin, it'll be Bachmann. Remember, if she's elected President we'll have $2.00 gas again according to her.

Bachmann won't be let anywhere near the nomination, she's this cycle's Gulianni, hard talking distraction to get "The Base" fired up on the issues.

Repugs spoon with gallop polls.
Liberlolz deep throat Thinkprogress polls.

Romney is fucked on two fronts...Romney care and his religion isn't user friendly with the Holy Rollers on the right.

His religion won't matter if the current crop of GOP hopefuls doesn't get a few more sane runners, and Romney Care can be spun as a state issue.

I love it when misguided haters preach about misguided hate...it just drips with irony.

Sopping wet with ironing.
 

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I bet he gets re-elected because the Republicans will vote for an un-electable in their primary and people will just still sit around and bitch. Stop voting for the same two teams morons, write someone in VOTE DIFFERENTLY. It doesn't matter if we win, what matters is getting our voice heard. Enough of us voting differently will get the word out that we're fed up with this shit. IMO it's much more pleasant than the alternative path we seem to be going down.
 
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I bet he gets re-elected because the Republicans will vote for an un-electable in their primary and people will just still sit around and bitch. Stop voting for the same two teams morons, write someone in VOTE DIFFERENTLY. It doesn't matter if we win, what matters is getting our voice heard. Enough of us voting differently will get the word out that we're fed up with this shit. IMO it's much more pleasant than the alternative path we seem to be going down.

Your voice doesn't get heard if no one is representing you beyond a ballot. The establishment will still have what they desire
 

xj0hnx

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I bet he gets re-elected because the Republicans will vote for an un-electable in their primary and people will just still sit around and bitch.

The American voting public needs to strike that word from it's vocabulary. There's no such thing as "un-electable", unless you mean they are going to put up a 21 year old Australian as their candidate.
 

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Lifer
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There is nothing to indicate that would happen. We're setting records left and right, and they're the wrong kind. As long as this president is in office and constantly bashes capitalism and business it's not going to get any better.

And Obama can't change his tune on that, it's part of his core being, it's who he really is.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/poli...ys-remarks-slide-isnt-forgiving-romney/41357/

lmao, so easy owning your bitch ass. Obama fully embracing corporations and free enterprise there.
 

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The American voting public needs to strike that word from it's vocabulary. There's no such thing as "un-electable", unless you mean they are going to put up a 21 year old Australian as their candidate.

you're right, I should have thrown it in quotes. I'm not a big fan of it either. MomentofSanity, see that's where you're wrong. What the fuck do you think we own guns for? So when those assholes who ignored our voice come after us, we show them how we vote. Americans have been so pussified over the years this is what we have, people to afraid to even use their VOTE to break away from the establishment.

If you vote Republican or Democrat you are exacerbating our problems in this country, which makes YOU the problem with the country. STOP IT.
 

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and Romney Care can be spun as a state issue.

lol, wanna bet? Romney winning the nom is the best chance Repubs have of taking over the WH and it's not even close, but fact is Romneycare, the 2nd most contentious issue of Obama's presidency (since jobs is always #1 for anyone), is a complete non-starter for Romney. Independents won't give a shit that the main difference between Romneycare and Obamacare is state vs. federal. That's fringe stuff only wingnuts will truly vote over.
 
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you're right, I should have thrown it in quotes. I'm not a big fan of it either. MomentofSanity, see that's where you're wrong. What the fuck do you think we own guns for? So when those assholes who ignored our voice come after us, we show them how we vote. Americans have been so pussified over the years this is what we have, people to afraid to even use their VOTE to break away from the establishment.

If you vote Republican or Democrat you are exacerbating our problems in this country, which makes YOU the problem with the country. STOP IT.

And you think "we will kill everyone who doen't agree with us" is a reasonable statement? Thats why no one takes the fringe seriously. Because they follow up with statements like that.

Ross Perot was different and a way for people to voice their displeasure. He sure changed the politcal landsape didn't the?
 

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Lifer
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Of course he fully embraces corporations, just not all of them, only the ones that give him money after they steal it from us first. You know the BIG WALL STREET CORPORATIONS.

Corporations in general, outside of Wall Street, gave him more money than McCain last election too. He's a corporate Dem, it's well known at this point outside of wingnut-ville.
 

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And you think "we will kill everyone who doen't agree with us" is a reasonable statement? Thats why no one takes the fringe seriously. Because they follow up with statements like that.

Ross Perot was different and a way for people to voice their displeasure. He sure changed the politcal landsape didn't the?

Where did I say "kill everyone who doesn't agree with us". No I said when they come after you for not voting their way, that's what the 2nd amendment is for. That doesn't mean go kill everyone you disagree with. Have you read nothing I've said? I said VOTE DIFFERENTLY, use your VOICE. 2nd amendment is a last resort.
 

xj0hnx

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lol, wanna bet? Romney winning the nom is the best chance Repubs have of taking over the WH and it's not even close, but fact is Romneycare, the 2nd most contentious issue of Obama's presidency (since jobs is always #1 for anyone), is a complete non-starter for Romney. Independents won't give a shit that the main difference between Romneycare and Obamacare is state vs. federal. That's fringe stuff only wingnuts will truly vote over.

When it comes down to it, it was a state program, and since Romney is not even dreaming of wanting to institute it at a national level, it is as you put it a "complete non-starter" as far as being something to attack him with, as a matter of fact, he can use his experience with it to shape an agenda based on it's failures to address the national health care debate. I know it's one of the few straws left, but reality will break your death grip on it. I can't believe I am pseudo defending that corporatist shit bag Romney, what is this world coming to?
 

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With half the GOP actively trying to ruin the country and the other half along with their sheep cheerleading that effort, how can America loose...
 

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Lifer
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When it comes down to it, it was a state program, and since Romney is not even dreaming of wanting to institute it at a national level,

In what universe do you truly believe Romney wouldn't institute national care, just based on his words at Republican debates? Dude flip flops more than hot pancake with hemorrhoids. His actions say entirely different things; he's already done it on the state level and it was, by far, the most ambitious gov't run healthcare program in history at that point. The only reason he didn't do it at the federal level is because he wasn't POTUS, of course. Dude is as big a liberal RINO as you can get.

it is as you put it a "complete non-starter" as far as being something to attack him with, as a matter of fact, he can use his experience with it to shape an agenda based on it's failures to address the national health care debate. I know it's one of the few straws left, but reality will break your death grip on it. I can't believe I am pseudo defending that corporatist shit bag Romney, what is this world coming to?

Yeah, again, I don't think you quite get how politics works. Pointing out the flaws in the biggest piece of legislation you passed in your career and using it to attack your opponent, who modeled the plan after yours and will say so (and has continued to say so), will lose you votes plain and simple. Republicans know he's the most moderate guy they got, which is why all the smart money has been with him for months, but they know healthcare is a complete non-starter. Romney will do everything in his power to avoid addressing it.
 

xj0hnx

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In what universe do you truly believe Romney wouldn't institute national care, just based on his words at Republican debates? Dude flip flops more than hot pancake with hemorrhoids. His actions say entirely different things; he's already done it on the state level and it was, by far, the most ambitious gov't run healthcare program in history at that point. The only reason he didn't do it at the federal level is because he wasn't POTUS, of course. Dude is as big a liberal RINO as you can get.

Right, he wasn't the POTUS, he passed it in his state. You don't honestly think that if he were president he would pass universal health care? One issue that the GOP is almost unanimously against? that's just a wee bit beyond the thresh hold of "flip flop", it's political suicide.

Yeah, again, I don't think you quite get how politics works.

LOL, coming from a guy that thinks the GOP candidate would institute universal health care because he did it as governor, that's rich.
 

Ausm

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. 2nd amendment is a last resort.

LMAO you sound like Sharron Angle.

Sharron Angle has used the Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms, in her rhetoric on several occasions. Angle has said, "What is a little bit disconcerting and concerning is the inability for sporting goods stores to keep ammunition in stock ... That tells me the nation is arming. What are they arming for if it isn't that they are so distrustful of their government? They're afraid they'll have to fight for their liberty in more Second Amendment kinds of ways?" and "That's why I look at this as almost an imperative. If we don't win at the ballot box, what will be the next step?"[105] On Bill Manders' radio show, she stated that the Second Amendment is "to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems."[106] On Lars Larson's radio show, she stated "You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. In fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years. I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, 'My goodness, what can we do to turn this country around?' I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."[107]
Asked to comment on the latter, her spokesman Jerry Stacy said via email: "Sharron Angle does not advocate a revolution. Her goal is to go to Washington with other like-minded elected officials who understand the proper role of the federal government as already defined by our Constitution."[108]
Congressman Jim Clyburn said in January 2011 that "Sharron Angle's endorsement of 'Second Amendment remedies' in her losing Nevada campaign against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid contributed to the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords."[109] Columnist E.J. Dionne did not blame Angle, but he did point out the connection between her call for "Second Amendment remedies" and the 2011 Tucson shooting.[110] CBS News, in a "nationwide telephone poll" of 673 adults, with a margin of error of 4%, found that "57 percent of respondents said the harsh political tone had nothing to do with the shooting, compared to 32 percent who felt it did."[111]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharron_Angle
 

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Lifer
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Right, he wasn't the POTUS, he passed it in his state. You don't honestly think that if he were president he would pass universal health care? One issue that the GOP is almost unanimously against? that's just a wee bit beyond the thresh hold of "flip flop", it's political suicide.

Except it's not political suicide. Dude is a liberal RINO, look at his record. He flip flops all the time, and Obamacare is in effect anyway so he's not going to follow through and overturn it.

LOL, coming from a guy that thinks the GOP candidate would institute universal health care because he did it as governor, that's rich.

Really, that wimp out from answering the question is the best you got? Tard.
 

Ausm

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You righties sure are a lucky bunch, after your repubican messiah GWB totally betrayed you and stabbed you in the back and took all your 401k money and gave it to war mongers, the taliban, investment bankers and his wealthy buddys then we the people gave you a black man in the whitehouse on wich to focus your mis guided hate.

But it's becoming obvious you have much more pent up hatred than you can release in just one presidential term, so get ready for a repeat performance so you will have another four years to vent your frustrations. :)

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