New Macrovision to block 97% of DVD copying.

[91TTZ]

You know what's really funny? When the pirates release the crack for the copy protection BEFORE it even comes out.

I remember when C&C Generals was about to come out they delayed its release by a few weeks so they could put better copy protection on the final retail discs. Then about a week before the release date the game was already cracked.

It's a hopeless battle. Most people don't copy games/movies, and the ones that do will find a way to do it no matter how hard the company tries to stop it.

 

[0roo0roo]

i've quit dvd purchasing anyways, bastards. i want high definition movies,. paying for a dvd movie now is just asking to be double dipped in the near future

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: MrBond

According to Gervin, just over a billion dollars has been lost by people who "rip and return"?consumers who rent a movie, copy it to their own digital library, and return the movie the next day.

This is retarded - how do they lose money because of these people? Because they weren't going to buy the DVD in the first place? They should go after Blockbuster and Netflix and shut them down then, because they've got to be losing tens of billions of dollars to people who rent movies rather then buy them just so they can watch them once.

Blockbuster should love the "rip and returners" - they allow them to have more of a movie in stock because rather than someone renting it for a week then taking it back, they're only out that copy for a night.

if they weren't going to buy it in the first place, why do they want a copy?

 

[iamme]

talk about a waste of time and money.

this'll be cracked before this supposed protection hits the streets.

 

[Bootprint]

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Sounds like they're screwing around with the error correction bits again.

I wonder if people will end up having to make a copy in order to play it on their HTPC.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

If it can be played, it can be cracked.

- M4H

 

[anxi80]

i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

edit: if you have asubscription deal setup, then it makes a little more sense. but then again, there are months when they are no new releases that i care to watch, and everything else i care to see i own already.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: anxi80
i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

yes, you're missing the mark on the prices... netflix/blockbuster online service is $15/mo. for say... 12 DVDs a month.. and a blank DVDr is easily cheaper than $1 ea. nowadays. I picked up 100 Riteks for $25.

Essentially you're getting a 12 for 1 deal.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: anxi80
i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

edit: if you have asubscription deal setup, then it makes a little more sense. but then again, there are months when they are no new releases that i care to watch, and everything else i care to see i own already.

Netflix and sales on discs....and screw cases.

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Fausto
Who the hell do they think they're kidding?

Content protection company Macrovision Corp. plans to announce on Tuesday that it has developed a way to eliminate the vast majority of DVD copying.

The technology, called "RipGuard DVD," will be licensed to the company's partners?studios who are part of the Motion Picture Association of America, executives told ExtremeTech. RipGuard isn't foolproof, but the hope is that it will cut down on mainstream ripping, they said. The software will simply block rippers from working.

I give this 2 days before a workaround becomes available.

I give it a week before the offical release.

 

[intogamer]

waiting for the new dvd decrypter....

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: jagec

According to Gervin, just over a billion dollars has been lost by people who "rip and return"?consumers who rent a movie, copy it to their own digital library, and return the movie the next day.

It seems to me that they make a lot more money on THOSE people than people who just download it from the 'net without ever renting anything.

yea, they didnt care when people did the exact samething with VHS. I have a bunch of VHS tapes where i rented a movie and copied it to a tape while i watched it.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: anxi80
i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

edit: if you have asubscription deal setup, then it makes a little more sense. but then again, there are months when they are no new releases that i care to watch, and everything else i care to see i own already.

I don't see the point in renting and ripping when you can download them off the internet with much less effort.

 

[Baked]

According to Gervin, just over a billion dollars has been lost by people who "rip and return"?consumers who rent a movie, copy it to their own digital library, and return the movie the next day.

Are they fvcking kidding? Why don't they just sue and shutdown all the video rental places, I mean they're the reason people don't shell out billions to buy the actual. What a bunch of greedy nut jobs these MPAA guys are.

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: anxi80
i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

yes, you're missing the mark on the prices... netflix/blockbuster online service is $15/mo. for say... 12 DVDs a month.. and a blank DVDr is easily cheaper than $1 ea. nowadays. I picked up 100 Riteks for $25.

Essentially you're getting a 12 for 1 deal.

8 dollars for 25 pack of tdk man. and plus my friend has 250+movies he daily buy. You get more than 12 dvds per a month. Have to check with friend.

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: Baked

According to Gervin, just over a billion dollars has been lost by people who "rip and return"?consumers who rent a movie, copy it to their own digital library, and return the movie the next day.

Are they fvcking kidding? Why don't they just sue and shutdown all the video rental places, I mean they're the reason people don't shell out billions to buy the actual. What a bunch of greedy nut jobs these MPAA guys are.

eh if so you can also borrow your friend's dvds.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally Posted By: Anxi80
i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

Cause lotsa people just rip to diVx and store it ont their HDD like MP3's...What else am i supposed to fill up a 200gb RAID array with?


~new

 

[Snapster]

Originally posted by: glugglug
If it can be viewed, it can be ripped.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: MrBond

According to Gervin, just over a billion dollars has been lost by people who "rip and return"?consumers who rent a movie, copy it to their own digital library, and return the movie the next day.

This is retarded - how do they lose money because of these people? Because they weren't going to buy the DVD in the first place? They should go after Blockbuster and Netflix and shut them down then, because they've got to be losing tens of billions of dollars to people who rent movies rather then buy them just so they can watch them once.

Blockbuster should love the "rip and returners" - they allow them to have more of a movie in stock because rather than someone renting it for a week then taking it back, they're only out that copy for a night.

That's pretty much how I feel. Even BEFORE the advent of $50 DVD burners and sub $1.00 media, I was to the point where my rent to purchase ratio was 20:1. I just rent far more than I ever buy and being able to copy DVD's hasn't changed it any.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Fausto
Who the hell do they think they're kidding?

Content protection company Macrovision Corp. plans to announce on Tuesday that it has developed a way to eliminate the vast majority of DVD copying.

The technology, called "RipGuard DVD," will be licensed to the company's partners?studios who are part of the Motion Picture Association of America, executives told ExtremeTech. RipGuard isn't foolproof, but the hope is that it will cut down on mainstream ripping, they said. The software will simply block rippers from working.

I have a strange feeling that switching to Linux to rip them will bypass this stuff. Don't ask why, just a feeling I have.

 

[Hannover]

Originally posted by: anxi80
i dont get the whole rip-n-return deal. you pay almost $5 to rent the movie plus almost a $1 for the blank dvd. you throw in cases, and its almost $7-8. for another $2, you can buy the previously viewed dvd at blockbuster, have the actual case with covers and backs, plus it isnt compressed to fit on a 4.7gb disc, so the video quality is as best as it can get for the release. plus, the 2nd disc or extra's disc is included, and you save another blank dvd disc. seriously, am i missing something here?

edit: if you have asubscription deal setup, then it makes a little more sense. but then again, there are months when they are no new releases that i care to watch, and everything else i care to see i own already.

I rent my movies at a Kiosk in the local grocery store for $1 per day. I rip & burn to a $0.35 DVD and label it with a sharpie. It doesn't get much cheaper than that...

The only reason that I do this is because my wife and I don't have a lot of movie watching time. I can keep several on hand for less than $1.50 each and we watch them on our own schedule. I have never been one to purchase movies because I don't re-watch them. I'm not concerned with building a stolen library, I just like the convienence.

 

[KeyserSoze]

NVM, read it wrong.

I suck.





KeyserSoze

 

Originally posted by: jagec

According to Gervin, just over a billion dollars has been lost by people who "rip and return"?consumers who rent a movie, copy it to their own digital library, and return the movie the next day.

It seems to me that they make a lot more money on THOSE people than people who just download it from the 'net without ever renting anything.

Seriously, how often do you rent a movie more than once anyway? At least rip-and-returners actually pay money to RENT the movie!

 

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[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Fausto
Who the hell do they think they're kidding?

Content protection company Macrovision Corp. plans to announce on Tuesday that it has developed a way to eliminate the vast majority of DVD copying.

The technology, called "RipGuard DVD," will be licensed to the company's partners?studios who are part of the Motion Picture Association of America, executives told ExtremeTech. RipGuard isn't foolproof, but the hope is that it will cut down on mainstream ripping, they said. The software will simply block rippers from working.

I give this 2 days before a workaround becomes available.

I was thinking the same thing