New Ipod shuffle is NOT the world's smallest mp3 player!

[Tom]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: nycxandy

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....

He's right. Volume is the only sensible way to distinguish smallest.

And your whole "footprint" argument is also silly. Footprint has nothing to do with a 1 inch cube, the only two rational definitions for footprint would be the area of one side, probably most correct, or the total area.

no one here is saying "Cubiness" has anything to do with anything...

but I do know that you can put the mobiBLU into both an 1" cube and 1.63" cube container. You can only put the new shuffle into the second one.

Apples says it's the smallest in the world, why can't it fit into a 1" container? If it really is the smallest in the world, it would be able to fit into a container smaller than the mobiBLU. Bottom line, it is not the smallest.

Does that mean I hate the new shuffle? no, I like it because it's easier to use than the mobiBLU, but it's not the smallest.

You got owned plain and simple.

Stop trying to justify yourself by using your silly examples. If I were to use your logic and take the new Nano's footprint area (1.62" x 0.41" = 0.6642 sq. in.), it is still less than the footprint area of the cube (1" x 1" = 1 sq. in.). Anyway, who the flyign fvck would care about fitting a device inside a cubic container? No one. So please STFU and accept that you got owned.

nope, not accepting that.

It's not the smallest, and I have proved my point.

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit?

You said-

"If it really is the smallest in the world, it would be able to fit into a container smaller than the mobiBLU."

It can fit into a smaller container. Unless you insist containers have to be cube shaped, which is silly, and a stupid shape for a portable mp3 player.

 

[archiloco]

does anybody know how to do that shuffle thing with the ipod-nano. what i mean is that button in itunes that randomly selects songs from a predetermined place in order to fill it up????

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: BigJ


Because guess what...this isn't a debate! Any sensible person on this forum can tell you that it's useless trying to talk with the extremes on any issue. You still haven't grown out of your "Apple Sux, PC Rox!" phase, so anything I might say is ultimately futile.

yea, you automatically assume I'm one of those extremes...without knowing that I already own and love several apple products. Who's the real fanboi?

I'm simply debating whether or not the new shuffle is the world's smallest MP3 player and you're the one calling people names without knowing how to properly debate an issue.

Fanboi's get all defensive when someone else points out a flaw or an outright lie and automatically assumes the person calling out the lie is a fanboi of competing products. They try to duck the real questions and result to calling names because that's the only out they know. who's the real fanboi?

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Mobi - 0.830584 cubic inches
Shuffle - 0.710694 cubic inches

Originally posted by: mpitts
You could say the same thing about the manufactuer of the cube.

They state that their product is the "Smallest MP3 player in the world". It weighs more and is larger in volume compared to the Shuffle.

Originally posted by: Eug
Wow, that mobiBLU looks like an incredibly annoying design. There are a lot of small MP3 players, but the cube shape would make the mobiBLU the most irritating one I've seen so far to have in your pocket.

When comparing objects that do not have equal dimensional ratios, the only reasonable comparison is a volume comparison. You're simply trying to use semantics to prove a point that can only be proven through said use of semantics.

On top of that, the awkward shape of the cube is asinine, like Eug said. Something that large is going to protrude from a pocket awkwardly. A trifold wallet in my back pocket is awkward enough at times, and it doesn't even protrude as much as the cube.

Also, when talking about overall footprint, for example when referring to monitors, you have to take into account the....overall dimensions. So in overall footprint, the cube is larger.

Your use of some arbitary container is pathetic. Can the cube fit into any rectangular box that is less than a 0.5" in one dimension? Nope. Hell, I guess using your logic, a 1.62" cube would be the same size as the Shuffle, right?

Face it boy, you made an ass out of yourself and got "owned."

Oh, and BTW. As far as being a fanboi, the only iPod I've ever owned was a 1G Mini I gave to my brother after a few months. GG, Nice Try, Press Start to Play Again.

nope sure didn't...

you try to use my own arguments against me and have failed. Because I can bounce right back and propose the same arguments again and we would be in a loop. bottom line is that the shuffle is NOT the smallest MP3 player in the world.

and yes, you sure were acting like a fanboi.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

Footprint? That's 100% irrelevant for an mp3 player. If you're going to say that you can't fit the ipod into a 1" cube container, then I can say that you can't fit the Mobiblu into a 1/4" thin, long container. And which is better in your pocket?

 

[Sable]

Self ownage FTW. :laugh:

 

[NFS4]

This > 2nd Gen Shuffle

1 or 2GB
FM tuner
1.5" color OLED screen
MP3, WMA, ASF, and OGG
It's only slightly larger and heavier 1.65" x 1.18" x 0.43", 0.62 ounces

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Mobi - 0.830584 cubic inches
Shuffle - 0.710694 cubic inches

Originally posted by: mpitts
You could say the same thing about the manufactuer of the cube.

They state that their product is the "Smallest MP3 player in the world". It weighs more and is larger in volume compared to the Shuffle.

Originally posted by: Eug
Wow, that mobiBLU looks like an incredibly annoying design. There are a lot of small MP3 players, but the cube shape would make the mobiBLU the most irritating one I've seen so far to have in your pocket.

When comparing objects that do not have equal dimensional ratios, the only reasonable comparison is a volume comparison. You're simply trying to use semantics to prove a point that can only be proven through said use of semantics.

On top of that, the awkward shape of the cube is asinine, like Eug said. Something that large is going to protrude from a pocket awkwardly. A trifold wallet in my back pocket is awkward enough at times, and it doesn't even protrude as much as the cube.

Also, when talking about overall footprint, for example when referring to monitors, you have to take into account the....overall dimensions. So in overall footprint, the cube is larger.

Your use of some arbitary container is pathetic. Can the cube fit into any rectangular box that is less than a 0.5" in one dimension? Nope. Hell, I guess using your logic, a 1.62" cube would be the same size as the Shuffle, right?

Face it boy, you made an ass out of yourself and got "owned."

Oh, and BTW. As far as being a fanboi, the only iPod I've ever owned was a 1G Mini I gave to my brother after a few months. GG, Nice Try, Press Start to Play Again.

nope sure didn't...

you try to use my own arguments against me and have failed. Because I can bounce right back and propose the same arguments again and we would be in a loop. bottom line is that the shuffle is NOT the smallest MP3 player in the world.

and yes, you sure were acting like a fanboi.

You can argue against the bolded...how?

 

[archiloco]

Originally posted by: NFS4
This > 2nd Gen Shuffle

1 or 2GB
FM tuner
1.5" color OLED screen
MP3, WMA, ASF, and OGG
It's only slightly larger and heavier 1.65" x 1.18" x 0.43", 0.62 ounces

nice...the screen is the winner for this one

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Sable
Self ownage FTW. :laugh:

yeah the ownage on the OP is great. but damn the ownage on FreshPrince is even better. how sad that he does not get what everyone else is saying.


I wouldnt buy either one. smaller is not always better (at least to me). i would want something just a little bigger.

i wouldnt mind a MP3 player. just can't justify $200 or so

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: NFS4
This > 2nd Gen Shuffle

1 or 2GB
FM tuner
1.5" color OLED screen
MP3, WMA, ASF, and OGG
It's only slightly larger and heavier 1.65" x 1.18" x 0.43", 0.62 ounces

That looks hot.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: NFS4
This > 2nd Gen Shuffle

1 or 2GB
FM tuner
1.5" color OLED screen
MP3, WMA, ASF, and OGG
It's only slightly larger and heavier 1.65" x 1.18" x 0.43", 0.62 ounces

does the chick come with that player?

I still think the new shuffle looks better.

 

[royaldank]

Wow...and he still wants to be right. He's trying so hard. If only we measured everything by how big of a cube container it would fit in.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow...and he still wants to be right. He's trying so hard. If only we measured everything by how big of a cube container it would fit in.

LOL

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: NFS4
This > 2nd Gen Shuffle

1 or 2GB
FM tuner
1.5" color OLED screen
MP3, WMA, ASF, and OGG
It's only slightly larger and heavier 1.65" x 1.18" x 0.43", 0.62 ounces

That looks hot.

Larger pic

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: JS80
volume...

Every time I hear the word "volume" this is what I think of:

All the time, our customers ask us, "How do you make money doing this?" The answer is simple: Volume. That's what we do.

haha - I loved that skit!

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow...and he still wants to be right. He's trying so hard. If only we measured everything by how big of a cube container it would fit in.

wow, people are still jumping on the bashing bandwagon?

stop it, cube container was just an example. I could say 1" x 1" x 0.95", which is no longer a cube and still, the new shuffle can't fit in it, but the mobiBLU can...

 

[royaldank]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow...and he still wants to be right. He's trying so hard. If only we measured everything by how big of a cube container it would fit in.

wow, people are still jumping on the bashing bandwagon?

stop it, cube container was just an example. I could say 1" x 1" x 0.95", which is no longer a cube and still, the new shuffle can't fit in it, but the mobiBLU can...

Ahh, so now it's just a contest of who can come up with more shapes the other one cannot fit in?

Win some, lose some. Take care pal.

 

[archiloco]

Originally posted by: royaldank

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow...and he still wants to be right. He's trying so hard. If only we measured everything by how big of a cube container it would fit in.

wow, people are still jumping on the bashing bandwagon?

stop it, cube container was just an example. I could say 1" x 1" x 0.95", which is no longer a cube and still, the new shuffle can't fit in it, but the mobiBLU can...

Ahh, so now it's just a contest of who can come up with more shapes the other one cannot fit in?

Win some, lose some. Take care pal.

yeah dude, maybe you should not try to explain yourself. it's cool we all make mistakes.

 

[Amused]

FreshPrince,

Dude, you're beat. Just capitulate and go on with your life.

Size is measured by volume. It's this way with everything from cars, to houses, to washing machines, to refrigerators.

And no, I don't own an iPod nor am I an Apple fan... I just know when someone is owned. And right now you've not only been owned, you continue to own yourself.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Amused
FreshPrince,

Dude, you're beat. Just capitulate and go on with your life.

Size is measured by volume. It's this way with everything from cars, to houses, to washing machines, to refrigerators.

And no, I don't own an iPod nor am I an Apple fan... I just know when someone is owned. And right now you've not only been owned, you continue to own yourself.

He keeps struggling against the noose, but it's only making it tighter.

 

[Platypus]

lol trainwreck ++

 

[theNEOone]

i suppose it's a matter of pride, but you have to start to wonder, how many people and how much evidence does it take to convince one individual that he's wrong, when that individual is completely set on his ways. let him be right in his own world. really, who cares?


=|

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: theNEOone
i suppose it's a matter of pride, but you have to start to wonder, how many people and how much evidence does it take to convince one individual that he's wrong, when that individual is completely set on his ways. let him be right in his own world. really, who cares?


=|

Heh, just look at the conspiracy nuts in the latest 9/11 thread.

 

[Narse]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow...and he still wants to be right. He's trying so hard. If only we measured everything by how big of a cube container it would fit in.

wow, people are still jumping on the bashing bandwagon?

stop it, cube container was just an example. I could say 1" x 1" x 0.95", which is no longer a cube and still, the new shuffle can't fit in it, but the mobiBLU can...

Sorry man your wrong, the shuffle is smaller as its total volume is less than the mobiBLU.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: Amused
FreshPrince,

Dude, you're beat. Just capitulate and go on with your life.

Size is measured by volume. It's this way with everything from cars, to houses, to washing machines, to refrigerators.

And no, I don't own an iPod nor am I an Apple fan... I just know when someone is owned. And right now you've not only been owned, you continue to own yourself.

no, size is measure by dimension. why? because we want to know if it will actually FIT into something. wider cars - can't fit into a narrow garrage. a wide ranch house can't fit into a smaller space that a narrow 2 story house can. taller regridgerators can't fit into shorter spaces, but it may be thinner in depth and smaller in volume. That is how everything that has to do with size works. volume means nothing, how the product fits into everyday use is key.

I accept that the shuffle will fit much more comfortably in jeans, but it's still not smaller when you want to store it somewhere.

I have not been owned.