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0roo0roo

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Mobi - 0.830584 cubic inches
Shuffle - 0.710694 cubic inches

haha, owned.


lol yea another n00b who can't do basic math:)
trying to seem rational while apple hating not so good when u can't even think in 3 dimensions;) hehehe
 

FreshPrince

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Dec 6, 2001
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LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.
 

FreshPrince

Diamond Member
Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....

 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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yea goddamned maroon.... 1 inch cube...blah. the shuffles form factor is more usable. mobiblu pulled a stunt product, they obviously didn't think about much more.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....

When it comes to "anti-fanbois" like yourself, I don't even need a comeback. You're OP and subsequent post is enough to show everyone how much of an idiot you really are.
 

Tom

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....


He's right. Volume is the only sensible way to distinguish smallest.

And your whole "footprint" argument is also silly. Footprint has nothing to do with a 1 inch cube, the only two rational definitions for footprint would be the area of one side, probably most correct, or the total area.

 

FreshPrince

Diamond Member
Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....

When it comes to "anti-fanbois" like yourself, I don't even need a comeback. You're OP and subsequent post is enough to show everyone how much of an idiot you really are.

lol...why don't you learn how to debate? aleast OrooOroo tries to justify calling me a moron by saying the shuttle is more usable, you can't even do that. why don't you try to backup your statements? It would seem to me, you're the idiot and moron.

 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....

When it comes to "anti-fanbois" like yourself, I don't even need a comeback. You're OP and subsequent post is enough to show everyone how much of an idiot you really are.

lol...why don't you learn how to debate? aleast OrooOroo tries to justify calling me a moron by saying the shuttle is more usable, you can't even do that. why don't you try to backup your statements? It would seem to me, you're the idiot and moron.

Because guess what...this isn't a debate! Any sensible person on this forum can tell you that it's useless trying to talk with the extremes on any issue. You still haven't grown out of your "Apple Sux, PC Rox!" phase, so anything I might say is ultimately futile.
 

FreshPrince

Diamond Member
Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....


He's right. Volume is the only sensible way to distinguish smallest.

And your whole "footprint" argument is also silly. Footprint has nothing to do with a 1 inch cube, the only two rational definitions for footprint would be the area of one side, probably most correct, or the total area.

no one here is saying "Cubiness" has anything to do with anything...

but I do know that you can put the mobiBLU into both an 1" cube and 1.63" cube container. You can only put the new shuffle into the second one.

Apples says it's the smallest in the world, why can't it fit into a 1" container? If it really is the smallest in the world, it would be able to fit into a container smaller than the mobiBLU. Bottom line, it is not the smallest.

Does that mean I hate the new shuffle? no, I like it because it's easier to use than the mobiBLU, but it's not the smallest.

 

FreshPrince

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Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: BigJ


Because guess what...this isn't a debate! Any sensible person on this forum can tell you that it's useless trying to talk with the extremes on any issue. You still haven't grown out of your "Apple Sux, PC Rox!" phase, so anything I might say is ultimately futile.

yea, you automatically assume I'm one of those extremes...without knowing that I already own and love several apple products. Who's the real fanboi?

I'm simply debating whether or not the new shuffle is the world's smallest MP3 player and you're the one calling people names without knowing how to properly debate an issue.

Fanboi's get all defensive when someone else points out a flaw or an outright lie and automatically assumes the person calling out the lie is a fanboi of competing products. They try to duck the real questions and result to calling names because that's the only out they know. who's the real fanboi?
 

Tom

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....


He's right. Volume is the only sensible way to distinguish smallest.

And your whole "footprint" argument is also silly. Footprint has nothing to do with a 1 inch cube, the only two rational definitions for footprint would be the area of one side, probably most correct, or the total area.

no one here is saying "Cubiness" has anything to do with anything...

but I do know that you can put the mobiBLU into both an 1" cube and 1.63" cube container. You can only put the new shuffle into the second one.

Apples says it's the smallest in the world, why can't it fit into a 1" container? If it really is the smallest in the world, it would be able to fit into a container smaller than the mobiBLU. Bottom line, it is not the smallest.

Does that mean I hate the new shuffle? no, I like it because it's easier to use than the mobiBLU, but it's not the smallest.


Smallness can't be defined by some arbitrary container. I could propose a container the Ipod would fit in and the mobilu wouldn't fit in. It's meaningless to define "smallest" that way.

Take a container that is 3/4 inch thick by 4 feet by 8 feet. Could I could prove that a 1/2 inch thick sheet of plywood is smaller than a mobilu because the plywood would fit and the mobilu wouldn't ?



 

imported_Rat

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Sep 11, 2006
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I'm simply debating whether or not the new shuffle is the world's smallest MP3 player and you're the one calling people names without knowing how to properly debate an issue.

It isn't a debate, it's a matter of arithmetic.

And as far as portable devices go, that cube is one of the (if not the) thickest on the market.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
hmmm...that new shuffle is pretty sweet. I may have to get one.

hell, I like it too and I might get one. But if I do, I'm not going to lie to myself and call it the world's smallest MP3 player...and that's the point that people here aren't getting...
 

nycxandy

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Apr 11, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....


He's right. Volume is the only sensible way to distinguish smallest.

And your whole "footprint" argument is also silly. Footprint has nothing to do with a 1 inch cube, the only two rational definitions for footprint would be the area of one side, probably most correct, or the total area.

no one here is saying "Cubiness" has anything to do with anything...

but I do know that you can put the mobiBLU into both an 1" cube and 1.63" cube container. You can only put the new shuffle into the second one.

Apples says it's the smallest in the world, why can't it fit into a 1" container? If it really is the smallest in the world, it would be able to fit into a container smaller than the mobiBLU. Bottom line, it is not the smallest.

Does that mean I hate the new shuffle? no, I like it because it's easier to use than the mobiBLU, but it's not the smallest.

You got owned plain and simple.

Stop trying to justify yourself by using your silly examples. If I were to use your logic and take the new Nano's footprint area (1.62" x 0.41" = 0.6642 sq. in.), it is still less than the footprint area of the cube (1" x 1" = 1 sq. in.). Anyway, who the flyign fvck would care about fitting a device inside a cubic container? No one. So please STFU and accept that you got owned.
 

tfinch2

Lifer
Feb 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
hmmm...that new shuffle is pretty sweet. I may have to get one.

hell, I like it too and I might get one. But if I do, I'm not going to lie to myself and call it the world's smallest MP3 player...and that's the point that people here aren't getting...

You're a tard. You're the one not getting the point here.
 

FreshPrince

Diamond Member
Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: nycxandy
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
LOL...so many apple fanboi's here...just shows you apple fans are true idiots...that's why they keep forking over money to them.

first of all, total volume and weight does not equal to smallest ...

let's talk about the weight issue first. an item that weighs the least does not automatically mean it's the smallest. A beach ball is lighter than a baseball yes? For example, a blown up beach ball is much larger than a baseball, but the baseball is much smaller in size. so there you go, who's the idiot?

2nd, let's talk about overall volume issue. yes, if you take HxWxD and do math on it, the shuffle has a smaller volume, but what about total footprint? you can fit the mobiBLU in a 1" cube container. Can you do the same with the shuffle? Hells no, so again, is the shuffle really smaller than the mobiBLU? no, in overall footprint, it is in fact much larger than the cube. You can try to cram the shuffle into an 1" container, but you will fail. The shuffle is much thinner than the cube, but overall footprint, it's much larger. Again, Apple fanboi's proving why they are all idiots on ATOT.

Like I said, apple is pure marketing and you idiots just proved that it's working for them.

You're an idiot.

good comeback moron....


He's right. Volume is the only sensible way to distinguish smallest.

And your whole "footprint" argument is also silly. Footprint has nothing to do with a 1 inch cube, the only two rational definitions for footprint would be the area of one side, probably most correct, or the total area.

no one here is saying "Cubiness" has anything to do with anything...

but I do know that you can put the mobiBLU into both an 1" cube and 1.63" cube container. You can only put the new shuffle into the second one.

Apples says it's the smallest in the world, why can't it fit into a 1" container? If it really is the smallest in the world, it would be able to fit into a container smaller than the mobiBLU. Bottom line, it is not the smallest.

Does that mean I hate the new shuffle? no, I like it because it's easier to use than the mobiBLU, but it's not the smallest.

You got owned plain and simple.

Stop trying to justify yourself by using your silly examples. If I were to use your logic and take the new Nano's footprint area (1.62" x 0.41" = 0.6642 sq. in.), it is still less than the footprint area of the cube (1" x 1" = 1 sq. in.). Anyway, who the flyign fvck would care about fitting a device inside a cubic container? No one. So please STFU and accept that you got owned.


nope, not accepting that.

It's not the smallest, and I have proved my point.

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit? :p
 

FreshPrince

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Dec 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
hmmm...that new shuffle is pretty sweet. I may have to get one.

hell, I like it too and I might get one. But if I do, I'm not going to lie to myself and call it the world's smallest MP3 player...and that's the point that people here aren't getting...

You're a tard. You're the one not getting the point here.

F.U. and see my comments about BigJ
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: BigJ


Because guess what...this isn't a debate! Any sensible person on this forum can tell you that it's useless trying to talk with the extremes on any issue. You still haven't grown out of your "Apple Sux, PC Rox!" phase, so anything I might say is ultimately futile.

yea, you automatically assume I'm one of those extremes...without knowing that I already own and love several apple products. Who's the real fanboi?

I'm simply debating whether or not the new shuffle is the world's smallest MP3 player and you're the one calling people names without knowing how to properly debate an issue.

Fanboi's get all defensive when someone else points out a flaw or an outright lie and automatically assumes the person calling out the lie is a fanboi of competing products. They try to duck the real questions and result to calling names because that's the only out they know. who's the real fanboi?

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Mobi - 0.830584 cubic inches
Shuffle - 0.710694 cubic inches

Originally posted by: mpitts
You could say the same thing about the manufactuer of the cube.

They state that their product is the "Smallest MP3 player in the world". It weighs more and is larger in volume compared to the Shuffle.

Originally posted by: Eug
Wow, that mobiBLU looks like an incredibly annoying design. There are a lot of small MP3 players, but the cube shape would make the mobiBLU the most irritating one I've seen so far to have in your pocket.

When comparing objects that do not have equal dimensional ratios, the only reasonable comparison is a volume comparison. You're simply trying to use semantics to prove a point that can only be proven through said use of semantics.

On top of that, the awkward shape of the cube is asinine, like Eug said. Something that large is going to protrude from a pocket awkwardly. A trifold wallet in my back pocket is awkward enough at times, and it doesn't even protrude as much as the cube.

Also, when talking about overall footprint, for example when referring to monitors, you have to take into account the....overall dimensions. So in overall footprint, the cube is larger.

Your use of some arbitary container is pathetic. Can the cube fit into any rectangular box that is less than a 0.5" in one dimension? Nope. Hell, I guess using your logic, a 1.62" cube would be the same size as the Shuffle, right?

Face it boy, you made an ass out of yourself and got "owned."

Oh, and BTW. As far as being a fanboi, the only iPod I've ever owned was a 1G Mini I gave to my brother after a few months. GG, Nice Try, Press Start to Play Again.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
hmmm...that new shuffle is pretty sweet. I may have to get one.

hell, I like it too and I might get one. But if I do, I'm not going to lie to myself and call it the world's smallest MP3 player...and that's the point that people here aren't getting...

You're a tard. You're the one not getting the point here.

F.U. and see my comments about BigJ

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Avolume&btnG=Google+Search

Volume (also called capacity) is a quantification of how much space an object occupies

(364) A measure of the space occupied by a solid.

The amount of space occupied by a substance or object.

Now STFU