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New ipad hits 116 degrees F

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Room temp at CR sure is warm... It's been 15C (approx. 59F) here in Cali... Most of the time less.

Also I think it's worth noting CR tested with Infinity Blade II running continuously for 45 minutes, and with the charger plugged in to achieve that temp.

But the weird thing was how they reported that the iPad wasn't charging while playing the game.

My iPad 3 charges while I play Infinity Blade II just fine. It charges even when plugged into my MBP.

Looks like CR was testing something defective, or something else entirely.

And thermal camera? Come on...
 
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cheezy321 said:
Why do you ask rhetorical questions? You would never get an iPad in the first place.

Edit: And by heat issues are you saying that laptops never get hot? I run flash on a windows PC and it burns up.
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Maybe you should buy laptops that don't suck then. My Thinkpad stays cool to the touch no matter what it is running.
 
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'On the left is the new iPad - with a temperature of 33.6c in the lower right hand corner.
'The iPad 2 scored in the same place a temperature of 28.3c, a difference of 5.3c.'
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Listen, I like Apple products but I can honestly say the iPad3 runs kinda hot.
Its not unbearable hot but more like a disappointing hot.
The screen is insanely beautiful but I can't get over how hot it gets.
I usually play games for about 30mins unplugged and it gets hot.
The only other gadget that I remembered getting this hot was the Lenovo U260.
http://www.techspot.com/review/358-lenovo-ideapad-u260/
It was a gorgeous looking laptop but they decided to put the HD on the palmrest and it gets too hot.
I returned that laptop and I'll be returning the iPad3 too.
 
Skel said:
I just want to know when they're going to spin into something larger like.. "Heatgate"
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Heh.
I was looking for Bateluer's post in this thread to see what he would call this incident but it seems you beat him to it.
First there was Antennagate, then Batterygate, and now Heatgate.
 
cheezy321 said:
and a laptop doesnt sit on your, errrr, lap either? You cant run Mass Effect 3 or World of Warcraft on a laptop and claim it doesn't get hot. That is a straight up lie.
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Intel integrated graphics that come inside the CPU should be good enough to run those games.
On a laptop with a discrete graphics card, yes it could get blazing hot.
 
kaerflog said:
Listen, I like Apple products but I can honestly say the iPad3 runs kinda hot.
Its not unbearable hot but more like a disappointing hot.
The screen is insanely beautiful but I can't get over how hot it gets.
I usually play games for about 30mins unplugged and it gets hot.
The only other gadget that I remembered getting this hot was the Lenovo U260.
http://www.techspot.com/review/358-lenovo-ideapad-u260/
It was a gorgeous looking laptop but they decided to put the HD on the palmrest and it gets too hot.
I returned that laptop and I'll be returning the iPad3 too.
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I don't own one but I can certainly say that that temperature under extreme load wouldn't bother me at all. As long the thing didn't cook itself or me I'm okay with it.
 
Hmm, I'd be more concerned about the battery if it's running warm. Lithium ion batteries wear out a lot faster if they're warm all the time.
 
Yeah but even heating cycles aren't going to be good for the capacity over time. It doesn't seem like the temperature will burn, just uncomfortable anyway.
 
senseamp said:
http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_ShootOut_1.htm

Good reading. Basically, iPad display burns 7watts instead of 2.7 watts for the old iPad. iPhone 4 screen, if sized to same dimensions would burn 2.6 watts, at higher ppi, but would be much more expensive and hard to produce in volumes needed.
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I'm not surprised the new display eats more but I am surprised it eats that much more. Add in the additional power needed from the uP and GPU and the new iPad is prolly "burning" twice the power.

Not a big surprise then that it's running a bit warm...


Brian
 
senseamp said:
http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_ShootOut_1.htm

Good reading. Basically, iPad display burns 7watts instead of 2.7 watts for the old iPad. iPhone 4 screen, if sized to same dimensions would burn 2.6 watts, at higher ppi, but would be much more expensive and hard to produce in volumes needed.
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If the iPad display really sucks that much power it's great news for x86 Windows tablets since Haswel ULV plus a more energy efficient screen could have a very good shot at fitting in an iPad 3 sized tablet while still having reasonable battery life.
 
Brian Stirling said:
I'm not surprised the new display eats more but I am surprised it eats that much more. Add in the additional power needed from the uP and GPU and the new iPad is prolly "burning" twice the power.

Not a big surprise then that it's running a bit warm...


Brian
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If you look at Anand's review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5689/the-new-ipad-retina-display-analysis/2

You can see that the blocked (black) vertical bars are about 20% of the pixel width for iPad2 and iPhone4, but about 40% of the iPad3 pixel width. So you'll need more power to get same light through.
 
senseamp said:
If you look at Anand's review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5689/the-new-ipad-retina-display-analysis/2

You can see that the blocked (black) vertical bars are about 20% of the pixel width for iPad2 and iPhone4, but about 40% of the iPad3 pixel width. So you'll need more power to get same light through.
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I'm not sure I see how the greater black area causes more power draw. Sure, to get the same light output through a smaller sub-pixel would require the power density to be greater, but since the area is smaller the sub-pixel power output shouldn't need to draw more power.

I think the larger gamut may have more to do with the greater power draw then relative sub-pixel fill ratio...


Brian
 
Brian Stirling said:
I'm not sure I see how the greater black area causes more power draw. Sure, to get the same light output through a smaller sub-pixel would require the power density to be greater, but since the area is smaller the sub-pixel power output shouldn't need to draw more power.

I think the larger gamut may have more to do with the greater power draw then relative sub-pixel fill ratio...


Brian
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You need the back light to be more powerful to get the same effective brightness. Remember that the sub-pixels don't generate any light in this screen, they either block it or let it through. If the "hole" for the light takes up a smaller proportion of the screen then the light needs to be brighter.
 
People are up in arms about 116ºF? 116... Fahrenheit?

A very powerful portable device, one that is thin, featuring a display that just about chugs current, with a beefy SoC and large battery... can hit 47ºC when taxed for all it's worth?

Really?

Really people? Holy shit. Then again, half of the market buying these devices probably fear it's going to blow up "because it's so hot!!!! omg!!!"

I've had other portables reach higher temps without even trying (inappropriate voltage levels for the overclock, mind you, but the point remains valid 😉), and this thing has a lot more crammed into it than my previous smartphones (hell, all of them - the SGN can't compare to the iPad 3 when comparing the SoC of choice).

If you want your tablet to feel like ice when you pick it up, you should either move to somewhere in Siberia (I'll spare listing every frigid locale 😉) or, hey, NOT purchase the most powerful device of it's class.
Hey, that last one... :hmm: nah, that would defeat the purpose.
🙄
 
destrekor said:
People are up in arms about 116ºF? 116... Fahrenheit?
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I don't think anyone is up in arms about it. There's only one guy who's going to return his and he just seems a bit disappointed rather than up in arms. Everyone else doesn't seem that bothered or are just wondering which bit is generating the most heat.
 
It's not that hot really, but with each new Ipad purchase Apple will be giving out a free pair of these:

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Just kidding...I would take one in a heartbeat anyway.
 
destrekor said:
People are up in arms about 116ºF? 116... Fahrenheit?

A very powerful portable device, one that is thin, featuring a display that just about chugs current, with a beefy SoC and large battery... can hit 47ºC when taxed for all it's worth?

Really?

Really people? Holy shit. Then again, half of the market buying these devices probably fear it's going to blow up "because it's so hot!!!! omg!!!"

I've had other portables reach higher temps without even trying (inappropriate voltage levels for the overclock, mind you, but the point remains valid 😉), and this thing has a lot more crammed into it than my previous smartphones (hell, all of them - the SGN can't compare to the iPad 3 when comparing the SoC of choice).

If you want your tablet to feel like ice when you pick it up, you should either move to somewhere in Siberia (I'll spare listing every frigid locale 😉) or, hey, NOT purchase the most powerful device of it's class.
Hey, that last one... :hmm: nah, that would defeat the purpose.
🙄
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Fanboy much?
 
Coworker actually returned his because of this. I'm assuming if you use it on your lap it would be quite Annoying. Especially in shorts.

Apple tends to do this though. They like thin with no fans. Macbooks have had heat problems and so did several iMac models.

Style over function I guess wins and they know it does because people just keep buying anyway
 
If thats the only reason he returned it I wouldnt be surprised if he goes out and buys it again. Like a previous poster said apple hasnt changed the law of thermodynamics. To complain about this really does seem to be a bit trivial.
 
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