New Carry On Luggage Rules

[Vic]

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: Vic
It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them.

link to where these rules were already written up? how long ago where they written? is there any aluminum foil on sale this week?

You think they wrote them just this morning?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Vic
It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them.

oh just wait until they can implement the next set of rules. they are chomping at the bit to get those out there. they are just sitting quietly right now collecting dust on the "Future Rules" shelf.

I have no doubt that committees are working on them as we speak. Every organization seeks to justify its own existence.

You act as if they have a crystal ball and can see into the future. If so, nothing bad would ever happen.

Not even remotely. Obviously, you misunderstand my point entirely. Quite the opposite, my point was that they furiously double-deadbolt the barn door after the horse has already gotten out.

the horse didn't get out this time.

why you complaining about airport security measures anyway?

Because most of them are futile and unnecessary. They are more to inconvenience people in order to remind them of the dangers than to actually protect them from the dangers.

 

[Lotheron]

Liquid on a plane!

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: Vic
It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them.

link to where these rules were already written up? how long ago where they written? is there any aluminum foil on sale this week?

You think they wrote them just this morning?

How hard is it to come up the rule, of No liquids in carry on baggage. we all know it takes months of planning to come up with such a rule.

I see this as a knee jerk reaction. in a few months or so they relax them again.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: herkulease
I see this as a knee jerk reaction. in a few months or so they relax them again.

Well of course it is a knee jerk reaction. Its just not a bad knee jerk reaction in light of the fact that the guys the Scotland Yard captured were planning on using liquid explosives hidden in drink bottles.

The terrorists tried a similar plot back in '94.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: Vic
It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them.

link to where these rules were already written up? how long ago where they written? is there any aluminum foil on sale this week?

You think they wrote them just this morning?

How hard is it to come up the rule, of No liquids in carry on baggage. we all know it takes months of planning to come up with such a rule.

I see this as a knee jerk reaction. in a few months or so they relax them again.

Why would they relax the rules again? Are terrorists only allowed to use liquid explosives during the months of August through October?

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why would they relax the rules again? Are terrorists only allowed to use liquid explosives during the months of August through October?

I mean they as in the security guards at the airport. right now they are all nazis about it. but in a few weeks they won't be so adamant about things and let some reasonable stuff slide.

I bet they'll probably even make you throw out that starbucks coffee you bought after the
check point before you board the plane.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: Vic
It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them.

link to where these rules were already written up? how long ago where they written? is there any aluminum foil on sale this week?

You think they wrote them just this morning?

How hard is it to come up the rule, of No liquids in carry on baggage. we all know it takes months of planning to come up with such a rule.

I see this as a knee jerk reaction. in a few months or so they relax them again.

Sometims I wonder how one lives such a life filled with paranoia and fear. I for one am glad that I won't have to find out...

Jezuz dude, they uncovered a plot yesterday regarding possible explosives in "liquid materials"...i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to make a new rule banning "liquid materials"...

When exactly do you think they were written? Between plotting to steal the election and hijacking planes to hit the WTC?

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Sometims I wonder how one lives such a life filled with paranoia and fear. I for one am glad that I won't have to find out...

Jezuz dude, they uncovered a plot yesterday regarding possible explosives in "liquid materials"...i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to make a new rule banning "liquid materials"...

When exactly do you think they were written? Between plotting to steal the election and hijacking planes to hit the WTC?

You asking me? I was being sarcastic.

 

[BooGiMaN]

im all for the new rules as long as they dont ban snakes on the plane...

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Jezuz dude, they uncovered a plot yesterday regarding possible explosives in "liquid materials"...i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to make a new rule banning "liquid materials"...

That's the problem though, it is completely reactionary system. Shouldn't the current security measures be able to detect explosive devices? We already had a guy almost explode a shoe bomb on an airplane. Guess what resulted, everybody gets to take their shoes off when going through security. I wonder how supportive you'd be if they started randomly strip searching 25% of passengers. Hey, it's for our safety! The more hassles you put passengers through, fewer will choose to fly. The airline industry will suffer and people will lose jobs (who has won there?)

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Sometims I wonder how one lives such a life filled with paranoia and fear. I for one am glad that I won't have to find out...

Jezuz dude, they uncovered a plot yesterday regarding possible explosives in "liquid materials"...i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to make a new rule banning "liquid materials"...

When exactly do you think they were written? Between plotting to steal the election and hijacking planes to hit the WTC?

You asking me? I was being sarcastic.

sorry dude...i thought i qouted the post before yours...my bad...

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Jezuz dude, they uncovered a plot yesterday regarding possible explosives in "liquid materials"...i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to make a new rule banning "liquid materials"...

That's the problem though, it is completely reactionary system. Shouldn't the current security measures be able to detect explosive devices? We already had a guy almost explode a shoe bomb on an airplane. Guess what resulted, everybody gets to take their shoes off when going through security. I wonder how supportive you'd be if they started randomly strip searching 25% of passengers. Hey, it's for our safety! The more hassles you put passengers through, fewer will choose to fly. The airline industry will suffer and people will lose jobs (who has won there?)

He's right, you know... I'm already at the point where I'd rather drive than fly for any place less than 500 miles away from me. Sure, it's 8+ hours driving time, but at least you have control on when you can come and go and not have the worry about security screenings and sudden flight cancelations.

 

[Baked]

Good, so retards can't jam up the isles when they get on and off the plane, or drop 200 lb suit case on your head.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: Vic
It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them.

link to where these rules were already written up? how long ago where they written? is there any aluminum foil on sale this week?

You think they wrote them just this morning?

How hard is it to come up the rule, of No liquids in carry on baggage. we all know it takes months of planning to come up with such a rule.

I see this as a knee jerk reaction. in a few months or so they relax them again.

Sometims I wonder how one lives such a life filled with paranoia and fear. I for one am glad that I won't have to find out...

Jezuz dude, they uncovered a plot yesterday regarding possible explosives in "liquid materials"...i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to make a new rule banning "liquid materials"...

When exactly do you think they were written? Between plotting to steal the election and hijacking planes to hit the WTC?

Wow, WTF.... straw man much? :roll:

The DHS implemented an already prepared emergency plan.

US raises air security alert to red for first time.
And a million other similar articles.

Don't make outrageously false, polarizing, partisan prejudgements about me because you have no fscking clue how government works.

And for what it's worth, "living in fear" IMO is accepting -- from your authorities -- the obviously false belief that sacrificing freedoms guarantees safety.

But hey, you just do as you're told, little man.

 

[KentState]

I feel that they need to have a two-tier system. First tier is for those that don't want any extra security beyond what we had a day ago. Those customers, pilots, or anyone not wanting the restirctions could have their own plane. A second tier would be for anyone those that want to follow the new policies. I see it as a chance either way.

 

[spacejamz]

Wow, WTF.... straw man much? :roll:

The DHS implemented an already prepared emergency plan.

US raises air security alert to red for first time.
And a million other similar articles.

Don't make outrageously false, polarizing, partisan prejudgements about me because you have no fscking clue how government works.

And for what it's worth, "living in fear" IMO is accepting -- from your authorities -- the obviously false belief that sacrificing freedoms guarantees safety.

But hey, you just do as you're told, little man.

Call it whatever you want...

you come up with a statement "It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them."

If that doesn't have "conspiracy theory" written all over it, I don't know what does...

I don't know if you just can't or just won't perceive the news as many mainstream Americans do, but a plot was uncovered to use liquid explosives on a plane, so the next day they ban liquids on flights. I don't know what more else needs to be read into that, but apparently you think there is more to this story and that is your perogative...

Sacrificing my freedom to bring sun tan lotion or shampoo on my flight really isn't that a big of a deal in light of current events, but if that represents government infringment of personal freedoms to you, then I really don't know what to say.

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: NakaNaka
Right now they are saying no carry on luggage, nothing that you can't put in a clear plastic bag like travel documents and a wallet. Is this forever? I hope not. I can't imagine an international flight without laptops/mp3 player/etc.

its misinformation your getting.

It is NO liquids or gel like substances in your carry ons.

drinks, perfumes, shaving cream, sun tan lotion.

Baby milk will require that someone drink it before they pass through security at foreign airports.

You can still have carry ons.

Detailed New Rules

Media reports indicated that passengers may be forced to sample infant formula or milk before being permitted to fly. Is that true?
from tsa.gov..
No. TSA will not ask passengers to sample fluids or beverages during the screening process. This process is being required at foreign airports and is not required at any domestic U.S. airport. Infant formula must be submitted for inspection to a TSA security officer by passengers traveling with a baby.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Call it whatever you want...

you come up with a statement "It's interesting how they have these new rules already written up and just need some kind of excuse in order to implement them."

If that doesn't have "conspiracy theory" written all over it, I don't know what does...

I don't know if you just can't or just won't perceive the news as many mainstream Americans do, but a plot was uncovered to use liquid explosives on a plane, so the next day they ban liquids on flights. I don't know what more else needs to be read into that, but apparently you think there is more to this story and that is your perogative...

Sacrificing my freedom to bring sun tan lotion or shampoo on my flight really isn't that a big of a deal in light of current events, but if that represents government infringment of personal freedoms to you, then I really don't know what to say.

In what fashion did this new ban have anything to do with the prevention of the plot? "In light of current events" is not an excuse for knee-jerking.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: Baked
Good, so retards can't jam up the isles when they get on and off the plane, or drop 200 lb suit case on your head.

Few things piss me off more than that. I absolutely despise people that bring anything more than ONE small bag/laptop case/briefcase/purse as a carry-on.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: KentState
I feel that they need to have a two-tier system. First tier is for those that don't want any extra security beyond what we had a day ago. Those customers, pilots, or anyone not wanting the restirctions could have their own plane. A second tier would be for anyone those that want to follow the new policies. I see it as a chance either way.

LOL

 

[slayer202]

Originally posted by: Platypus

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: monk3y
This whole situation is so annoying. But if it means it will get others and myself safely through a flight. I'm all for it.

Saw a quote from a 24 year old chick out of the UK "it will be inconvient to not have my iPod for 8 hours." I was thinking, "TWIT! It would be real inconvient to DIAF too." Some folks priorities are just monkeyed up. It is not like you can't live without one for a freaking plane flight. You weren't born with it. sigh

/rant

That isn't the point. The point is that terrorism is working, they're disrupting our daily lives and the freedoms we're used to.

i'm sure the goal of these terrorists was to prevent us from taking liquids on planes...

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Dunbar


That's the problem though, it is completely reactionary system. Shouldn't the current security measures be able to detect explosive devices? We already had a guy almost explode a shoe bomb on an airplane. Guess what resulted, everybody gets to take their shoes off when going through security. I wonder how supportive you'd be if they started randomly strip searching 25% of passengers. Hey, it's for our safety! The more hassles you put passengers through, fewer will choose to fly. The airline industry will suffer and people will lose jobs (who has won there?)

Since the (terrorists) do not care about anyone's lives or their own - imagine if a man had a bomb in his rectum or an explosive penis? :shocked:

 

[Sukhoi]

I'm going to start flying fvcking naked at the rate these restrictions are going into effect. My jeans are cotton. Cotton is flammable. I guess we aren't going to be able to wear cotton clothes. And I'm sure a bomb can somehow be made from polyester. There is no way I'm going to sit for 2 hours at the gate and then make an 8-hour flight to Europe with no sort of electronic entertainment. And as kami333 mentioned but everyone ignored, the airlines want all valuables in checked luggage yet they won't take financial responsibility for checked luggage.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Since the (terrorists) do not care about anyone's lives or their own - imagine if a man had a bomb in his rectum or an explosive penis? :shocked:

What if it was an epoxy bomb?
Part A: Penis.
Part B: Rectum.
:Q