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tg2708

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The cables are insulated, so there's no problem with them touching other components. You should be able to bend the PCIe power cables enough to get the side panel on. Either that or it will bow out slightly from the cables (not a big deal).

As for the fans, yes the i30 is enough to do some overclocking. I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you can't put the rear fan back on? It just screws in.

I tried to screw it back in but everytime i apply pressure its going in slanted, tried every possible screw with same result. The funny thing is the screw that came with it are the ones that are not working too as mentioned in the previous sentence.
 

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Check the screw holes in the fan frame, one side should have threading. Definitely use the same screws that the fan was attached with originally.
 

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Check the screw holes in the fan frame, one side should have threading. Definitely use the same screws that the fan was attached with originally.

Can't seem to find the screws. Is it ok to leave it off since the i30's are blowing in the same direction? I will just have to get an aftermarket one later on. Also I can't get one of the side panels on because the power supply cables are too stiff which may result in breakage if too much pressure is applied.
 

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Can't seem to find the screws. Is it ok to leave it off since the i30's are blowing in the same direction? I will just have to get an aftermarket one later on. Also I can't get one of the side panels on because the power supply cables are too stiff which may result in breakage if too much pressure is applied.

It never hurts to have a big bag of fan screws.

Can you take a picture of the PCIe power cables relative to the case? Host on imgur or wherever and link here.
 

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Hmm, not sure what the issue is in that picture? Just tuck that molex in below the HDDs and you should be good to go.

Bending the cable too much seems like it will break the drives. The part where the psu cable is plugged into is bending/flexing too much.
 

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Bending the cable too much seems like it will break the drives. The part where the psu cable is plugged into is bending/flexing too much.

Are you talking about the top SATA power connector that's plugged into your SSD? It's totally fine, just bend it downwards. If you really need to, slide the SSD caddy forward a little.
 
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Are you talking about the top SATA power connector that's plugged into your SSD? It's totally fine, just bend it downwards. If you really need to, slide the SSD caddy forward a little.

No its the the braided cables that are giving me problems, the sata one is fine.
 

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SATA power connectors are the power connectors that plug into your drives. Those are what I am referring to.

Ok thanks, but im so afraid off bending the one that comes from the ssd because the connector seems to be flexing alot more and trying to push back the drive caddy will most like likely interfere with putting on the other side panel. Also about overclocking, in the bios I see 4.0 to 4.4 as a normal good overclock according to mobo, but the last two voltages or whatnot are red.
 

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Ok thanks, but im so afraid off bending the one that comes from the ssd because the connector seems to be flexing alot more and trying to push back the drive caddy will most like likely interfere with putting on the other side panel. Also about overclocking, in the bios I see 4.0 to 4.4 as a normal good overclock according to mobo, but the last two voltages or whatnot are red.

The case is designed to work with drives in it. You will be fine, just put the panel on. Slide the drive forward if you must, it shouldn't interfere with the other side. If it still won't fit, take the drive and caddy out of the case and take a picture of it.

Regarding overclocking, I can't really give any advice without knowing the specific voltages you're referring to and their specific readings.
 

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The case is designed to work with drives in it. You will be fine, just put the panel on. Slide the drive forward if you must, it shouldn't interfere with the other side. If it still won't fit, take the drive and caddy out of the case and take a picture of it.

Regarding overclocking, I can't really give any advice without knowing the specific voltages you're referring to and their specific readings.

If the drive bays are locked into place the cables become a problem for one side. If i loosen up the bay, the latch or mechanism used to remove them creates a problem for the other side. At this point only one side can go on securely so I'm at a point where I either leave both side panels off or force it and end up breaking the cables.

Also the wave like issue was a result of the the vga to dvi connection (d-sub) so going with an hdmi cable fixed the issue (thank God).
 

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If the drive bays are locked into place the cables become a problem for one side. If i loosen up the bay, the latch or mechanism used to remove them creates a problem for the other side. At this point only one side can go on securely so I'm at a point where I either leave both side panels off or force it and end up breaking the cables.

You're either doing something fundamentally wrong that I'm not seeing from the picture or we're not communicating very well. The side panels are designed to go on with standard drives and standard PSU cables, both of which you have. Post a top-down picture of the SSD in the caddy (outside of the case).
 

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does an ips display show colors better than a tn panel (benq 2420t) in games or are their real no difference?
 

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It does show better colors, but motion fluidity is far better with an XL2420T
 

tg2708

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It does show better colors, but motion fluidity is far better with an XL2420T

Oh man thanks, even though the games still looks nice I cant help to think about how an ips would have shown the colors better lol. I love fluid movement but also prettiness even though im still not envious of an ips display.
 

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Can anyone recommend me a few fans for the case? Don't care much for fans with light, but if they help in cooling I will consider. Everything is currently running fine but I feel the urge to start overclocking but want to make sure heat dissipation is great.
 

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When overclocking, I keep an eye on temperatures with HWinfo64 and MSI Afterburner. I would suggest that you post temperatures under full load here, then we can discuss if they're safe or if you need additional cooling :). I'm running a moderately overclocked system myself, temperatures are fine (around 70C for both CPU and GPU at full load) and I only have four low RPM fans, roughly equivalent to two 1000-1200RPM 120mm fans.
 

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When overclocking, I keep an eye on temperatures with HWinfo64 and MSI Afterburner. I would suggest that you post temperatures under full load here, then we can discuss if they're safe or if you need additional cooling :). I'm running a moderately overclocked system myself, temperatures are fine (around 70C for both CPU and GPU at full load) and I only have four low RPM fans, roughly equivalent to two 1000-1200RPM 120mm fans.

Any games I should test it with? Ran bioshock infinite last night and cpu temps was 58 (a core that always seems to read higher than the rest) and the gpu was 59. Don't know if its because the side panels are off or is because the time is getting cold. I only have the stock fan running (in the front) because I removed the back one, the gpu fans and the i30 (seems to be always running at max speed) running though).
 

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Try Unigine Heaven or Valley
http://www.unigine.com/products/benchmarks/

For the CPU, use Prime95 small FFT test
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

It's normal for cores to have different temperatures.

Games aren't good for maxing out the CPU, and they can be poor for maxing out the GPU as well because they are not designed for that purpose, and because you may be using Vertical Sync which limits your FPS to 60, thus limiting your GPU usage.

Why remove the rear fan? An exhaust is better than an intake for cooling (because it gets rid of hot air faster). I would rather have one exhaust than one intake, although why not use both fans?
 
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tg2708

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Try Unigine Heaven or Valley
http://www.unigine.com/products/benchmarks/

For the CPU, use Prime95 small FFT test
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

It's normal for cores to have different temperatures.

Games aren't good for maxing out the CPU, and they can be poor for maxing out the GPU as well because they are not designed for that purpose, and because you may be using Vertical Sync which limits your FPS to 60, thus limiting your GPU usage.

Why remove the rear fan? An exhaust is better than an intake for cooling (because it gets rid of hot air faster). I would rather have one exhaust than one intake, although why not use both fans?

cant find the screws that came with. I've tried a couple but because they were not screwing in right i decide not to force them in.
 

tg2708

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ran the valley test average 40 fps min 22 score 1711 max 78 gpu temp 58

What info should i be looking at for prime95?

I guess i wont be able to overclock because prime95 is reaching temps of 83 while running the test. Any help would be appreciated because im not using the stock cooler nor any of the side panels so heat flow should be decent.
 
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