Neighbors dog kills my cat; injures two others

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Dumac

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Luthien
Here is a temporary website with some pictures (not for kids): Link

You are overreacting.

Seek profesional help.

You're just a cold, unfeeling SOB, aren't you? Haven't you ever had a beloved pet that died and you still miss?
No, he's right. She's overreacting, and I don't know of a nicer way to put it.:( I mean she's hellbent on suing for thousands of dollars, refuses to talk to the owner of the dogs, and then there's the pictures. The fact of the matter is that it's been a month and she still hasn't seemed to have recomposed herself yet. It's not healthy to let it drag on this long.:(

Yes, she is overreacting, but Number 1 is being rude in the way he states it.

I have two kittens, and would be depressed if either of them would injured, but one should know when to move on. I doubt much will come from this in court, but I assume the OP feels the need to see some sort of revenge.

I suggest that the OP try to move on, though it may be difficult. Pursue revenge by legal means if necessary, but definately do not do anything illegal or cruel to the other animal.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Luthien
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god, what a horrible way to die. :(

Ralph must have been an adorable cat. Teddy, Spice & Bigfoot are also incredibly cute. Is Teddy doing OK now with his bandaged leg?
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Luthien
Here is a temporary website with some pictures (not for kids): Link

You are overreacting.

Seek profesional help.

You're just a cold, unfeeling SOB, aren't you? Haven't you ever had a beloved pet that died and you still miss?
No, he's right. She's overreacting, and I don't know of a nicer way to put it.:( I mean she's hellbent on suing for thousands of dollars, refuses to talk to the owner of the dogs, and then there's the pictures. The fact of the matter is that it's been a month and she still hasn't seemed to have recomposed herself yet. It's not healthy to let it drag on this long.:(

Yes, she is overreacting, but Number 1 is being rude in the way he states it.

I have two kittens, and would be depressed if either of them would injured, but one should know when to move on. I doubt much will come from this in court, but I assume the OP feels the need to see some sort of revenge.

I suggest that the OP try to move on, though it may be difficult. Pursue revenge by legal means if necessary, but definately do not do anything illegal or cruel to the other animal.

I hardly thing either of you are in a position to decide whether or not the OP is "over reacting". You have no knowledge of the position these cats occupied in the OP's family. If the cats were regarded as family members, and were loved as much as other families love their human children, then no the OP isn't over-reacting.

also, this dog is an obvious danger to the neighborhood, and obviously needs to be put to sleep. Next time it might go after a baby or small child. The OP has every moral right to kill it. Whether he uses a poisoned piece of meat, a taser, a baseball bat, or a gun, it hardly matters. This is one dog that needs to be killed off for the safety of the neighborhood.



 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Dumac
I suggest that the OP try to move on, though it may be difficult. Pursue revenge by legal means if necessary, but definately do not do anything illegal or cruel to the other animal.

I think it's possible to make a case the dog is a menace in the neighborhood. It's proven it'll go out of it's way (as in: enter a building through a dog door, it'd be a different case if the garage door was wide open) to maul a smaller animal, what's to say it won't do the same to enter a house and attack a small child, or jump a fence and attack somebody in their own yard?

If the courts/Animal Control won't take care of it, I think it'd be perfectly acceptable to dispense a form of vigilante justice on the animal.


Edit: And don't bother even saying I only advocate this because it was a cat killed, and I like cats. A lot. I'd be saying the same thing if it were a smaller dog that this happened to.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Luthien
Here is a temporary website with some pictures (not for kids): Link

You are overreacting.

Seek profesional help.

You're just a cold, unfeeling SOB, aren't you? Haven't you ever had a beloved pet that died and you still miss?

Actualy, one of my Jack Russel was killed 3 years ago by a neighbor's dog in a similar situation. My dog was loose, his dog was loose. The dog catcher was called. The killer dog was euthanised the same day because its owner could no longer trust it.
I later bouth another dog who had babys and the neighbor purchased one from me.

Tragedies hapen.


Our current zoo:

Pumpkin

James

Odie

 

aidanjm

Lifer
Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Luthien
Here is a temporary website with some pictures (not for kids): Link

You are overreacting.

Seek profesional help.

You're just a cold, unfeeling SOB, aren't you? Haven't you ever had a beloved pet that died and you still miss?

Actualy, one of my Jack Russel was killed 3 years ago by a neighbor's dog in a similar situation. My dog was loose, his dog was loose. The dog catcher was called. The killer dog was euthanised the same day because its owner could no longer trust it.
I later bouth another dog who had babys and the neighbor purchased one from me.

Tragedies hapen.

in your case, the dog was put to sleep.

also the OP's cat wasn't "loose", it was hanging out on the OP's property. The attacking dog was loose, and obviously on some kind of dangerous killing rampage.

 

thedarkwolf

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Oct 13, 1999
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And here come more of the kill the dog morons along with the classic what if it had been a child guy. It wasn't a child it was a cat you idiot. Wonder how many animals the OP's cats have killed wondering around loose? Cute little mittens turns into a killing machine when she gets outside. They are predator thats what they do. Sure not all dogs would chase and kill a cat if given the chance but I'd bet most would so lets kill them all just to be safe. Please won't somebody think of the children? A cat is just a big squirrel to most dogs.

The dog escaped, the owner should fix his fence, apologize to the OP, and offer to pay the medical bills of the other cat.
 

Conky

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Hey man, it sucks to lose a pet but suing people over what animals do is pretty weak. If you were so worried about your cat you shouldn't have let it outside.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Beachboy
Hey man, it sucks to lose a pet but suing people over what animals do is pretty weak. If you were so worried about your cat you shouldn't have let it outside.

the cat wasn't outside.

and suing is the civilized way of seeking legitimate compensation for damages caused by another citizen.
 

iamaelephant

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Wow, its been a month and you're still acting like this? You need to move on. Forget about revenge and forget about court. Move on. You're over reacting. If you really can't move on, seek professional help.
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Hey man, it sucks to lose a pet but suing people over what animals do is pretty weak. If you were so worried about your cat you shouldn't have let it outside.

the cat wasn't outside.

and suing is the civilized way of seeking legitimate compensation for damages caused by another citizen.
A dog door to a garage is good as outside to a dog.

And suing people for what animals do is still stupid. He should've known that the dog door would allow other animals in. I am highly aware that my dog door allows other critters inside and if I didn't have 2 dogs(I've had lots of cats too) then I wouldn't have a dog door.

It sucks what happened but he left an open invitation to that dog.

 

Number1

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Luthien
Here is a temporary website with some pictures (not for kids): Link

You are overreacting.

Seek profesional help.

You're just a cold, unfeeling SOB, aren't you? Haven't you ever had a beloved pet that died and you still miss?

Actualy, one of my Jack Russel was killed 3 years ago by a neighbor's dog in a similar situation. My dog was loose, his dog was loose. The dog catcher was called. The killer dog was euthanised the same day because its owner could no longer trust it.
I later bouth another dog who had babys and the neighbor purchased one from me.

Tragedies hapen.

in your case, the dog was put to sleep.

also the OP's cat wasn't "loose", it was hanging out on the OP's property. The attacking dog was loose, and obviously on some kind of dangerous killing rampage.

Nobody saw WHERE the cat was initialy attacked.
 

thedarkwolf

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The dead cat wasn't attacked in the garage that was a different cat and it lived. The neighbor saw the dog running down the street with the dead cat so nobody knows where that cat was attacked at. Third cat the op has no idea what happend to it. Its just speculation.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: Beachboy
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Hey man, it sucks to lose a pet but suing people over what animals do is pretty weak. If you were so worried about your cat you shouldn't have let it outside.

the cat wasn't outside.

and suing is the civilized way of seeking legitimate compensation for damages caused by another citizen.
A dog door to a garage is good as outside to a dog.

And suing people for what animals do is still stupid. He should've known that the dog door would allow other animals in. I am highly aware that my dog door allows other critters inside and if I didn't have 2 dogs(I've had lots of cats too) then I wouldn't have a dog door.

It sucks what happened but he left an open invitation to that dog.

sorry, but it is the dog owner's responsibility to keep their animal under control. if the dog is allowed to run free, and goes on a killing rampage, then the owner is morally responsible and legally liable.
 

Conky

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May 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Hey man, it sucks to lose a pet but suing people over what animals do is pretty weak. If you were so worried about your cat you shouldn't have let it outside.

the cat wasn't outside.

and suing is the civilized way of seeking legitimate compensation for damages caused by another citizen.
A dog door to a garage is good as outside to a dog.

And suing people for what animals do is still stupid. He should've known that the dog door would allow other animals in. I am highly aware that my dog door allows other critters inside and if I didn't have 2 dogs(I've had lots of cats too) then I wouldn't have a dog door.

It sucks what happened but he left an open invitation to that dog.

sorry, but it is the dog owner's responsibility to keep their animal under control. if the dog is allowed to run free, and goes on a killing rampage, then the owner is morally responsible and legally liable.
"Killing rampage"? Hey, dogs chase cats. When they catch them this is what happens... no need to be a drama queen about the death of a cat.

Again, the OP let the dog in the garage... he too has some responsibility in this. My doggy door has a locking feature... perhaps the OP should've looked into a door with this feature?

 

Luthien

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My vet told me that dogs that hunt neighborhood animals like that husky escalate to biting small children if they get out enough.

Hard to look at the pictures, yes. Now realize they are only instants in time while I had to view the movie.

The owner of the dogs is not apologetic he pleaded not guilty!

If the dog is euthanized then we don't intend to persue it. The court has to decide now because he pleaded not guilty and told the court he is getting a lawyer. So, the city will fine and grant us whatever but if it doesnt include euthanasia then comes the civil trial which again we will drop if the dog is euthanized.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: Beachboy
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Hey man, it sucks to lose a pet but suing people over what animals do is pretty weak. If you were so worried about your cat you shouldn't have let it outside.

the cat wasn't outside.

and suing is the civilized way of seeking legitimate compensation for damages caused by another citizen.
A dog door to a garage is good as outside to a dog.

And suing people for what animals do is still stupid. He should've known that the dog door would allow other animals in. I am highly aware that my dog door allows other critters inside and if I didn't have 2 dogs(I've had lots of cats too) then I wouldn't have a dog door.

It sucks what happened but he left an open invitation to that dog.

sorry, but it is the dog owner's responsibility to keep their animal under control. if the dog is allowed to run free, and goes on a killing rampage, then the owner is morally responsible and legally liable.
"Killing rampage"? Hey, dogs chase cats. When they catch them this is what happens... no need to be a drama queen about the death of a cat.

Again, the OP let the dog in the garage... he too has some responsibility in this. My doggy door has a locking feature... perhaps the OP should've looked into a door with this feature?

Yes, killing rampage. And adopting your language, why are you being a "drama queen" about the proposed death of this dangerous dog? Putting this dog to sleep will guarantee it a very pleasant death - it will drift gently off to sleep - that is a very different manner of death than that experienced by the poor cat. You are acting like the life of a dog is more valuable than the life of a cat.

 

Luthien

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aidanjm

Teddy is doing fine, his wound is healed but the hair will never grow back. Teddy is so hairy though that in time it will be pretty hard to see that spot. :)
 

Bitek

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I don't think you should be allowed to sue for thousands, and if you try, I hope you lose. Sorry, but its bad precedent.

I'll say it again, pets are still wild animals, they will chase and kill other animals if given a chance. It doesn't mean they are evil and vicious. Your cats have probably killed hundreds of smaller animals (birds, rabbits etc.) and prob tortured them first as well ( its well known what cats do.) They may have even gotten into fights with other cats that you don't know of. If one of your cats got into a fight and managed to kill another cat or a nieghbors pet bunny, is it fair to be sued for thousands and have your cat destroyed? Fine its a fam member, but so is that guy's dog most likely.

You don't have any other incidences of attacks, even tho you've gone thru considerable effort to find them. Perhaps it was a peaceful dog until your cat went into its yard and it jumped the fence when it normally has no ambition to do so. Since you have no witnessed to the initial attack, its entirely possible your cat was in the dog's yard, it saw it and its chase instincts was set off, and it chased the cat until he caught it. Who is at fault then? If your cat is just wandering around the neighborhood, you don't have control over it. Neither of you had proper control of you animals, so destroying one party after the fact solves nothing.

We have a cat we let outside, but we know its dangerous, and we have to accept that and its consequences. If someone runs over the cat, were not going to sue them (unless they were trying to of course.)

In my reasoned judgement, the dog owner should be liable for the expenses for the cats his dog caused, a reasonable reimbursement for the value of the dead cat ( a few hundred most likely) and then given a stern warning that if the dog escaped the yard again it would be destroyed. For your own mental health, delete those pictures of the dead cat, at least don't look at them. You have to find a way to move on. Perhaps this is an opportunity to get another cat that needs a good home. Be content in the good life you had provided Ralph.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: Luthien
My vet told me that dogs that hunt neighborhood animals like that husky escalate to biting small children if they get out enough.

Hard to look at the pictures, yes. Now realize they are only instants in time while I had to view the movie.
The owner of the dogs is not apologetic he pleaded not guilty!

If the dog is euthanized then we don't intend to persue it. The court has to decide now because he pleaded not guilty and told the court he is getting a lawyer. So, the city will fine and grant us whatever but if it doesnt include euthanasia then comes the civil trial which again we will drop if the dog is euthanized.

That dog never attacked children and never will.
The dog has been contained since the incident and is no longer a problem.

Now you want it dead, not because it is a problem, but for revenge. You're just making the "movie" longer and more painful for everybody involved.

You are the proverbial deranged crazy cat lady. It?s not normal to distribute flyers with picture of dead cats to all the neighbors. Posting it on the net is equally morbid.

I hope you lose your case in court and that the dog owner sues you for slander.

Do you know where your cats are?