Need Help with picking gpu.

[REEF_AND_FRIENDS]

I missed the part where he say's " he is buying this card only to play Battlefield and COD...?
I find it hard to believe when he plays 2 games he will stop playing games ?
Is that what your implying?
Please show me the quote.
It really don't matter for under 300$, the 1060 IS the best card.

If he wants to wait for the games to release thats for him to decide.

I do plan i playing more games lol. Tomb raider, dead rising, anything i couldnt get on playstation. I never played on pc so im not really sure the difference between very high and ultra. If very high is not that much worse i would play on that to get better fps.

 

[Bacon1]

I missed the part where he say's " he is buying this card only to play Battlefield and COD...?
I find it hard to believe when he plays 2 games he will stop playing games ?
Is that what your implying?
Please show me the quote.
It really don't matter for under 300$, the 1060 IS the best card.

If he wants to wait for the games to release thats for him to decide.

Those are some of the most demanding games, and the ones he apparently cares the most about since he is specifically mentioning them.

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08...diagramm-call-of-duty-black-ops-iii-1920-1080

Custom 480 is 22% faster than custom 1060 in last COD BO3.

They are very close in SW:BF which is DX11 and so far we've seen AMD cards do better in DX12 than Nvidia.

We know BF1 will be DX12 and newer version of frostbite engine and they are working with AMD so expect to see it be very tuned for AMD's cards (while still doing well for Nvidia).

Regardless, the perf difference between the two is 5% overall. You get 2GB more VRAM for the 480 and should have better DX12 performance in future games, the ones he is planning on playing.

 

[happy medium]

I do plan i playing more games lol. Tomb raider, dead rising, anything i couldnt get on playstation. I never played on pc so im not really sure the difference between very high and ultra. If very high is not that much worse i would play on that to get better fps.

I just finished Rise of the Tomb Raider, an excellent game on my much slower overclocked gtx960 4gb on high settings at about 50fps. A gtx1060 will easily play the game on very high at 60+ fps. Its been my experience that very high and ultra are not all that much different. I use a 1080p monitor @ 60hz.

DO you like racing games?
Project Cars is excellent, and I play Dirt Rally some also.
Coming from a PS4 you must also play the Crysis series.
Go to youtube and take a look at some of these titles running on PC, you will be impressed.

Hot deal.
MSI gtx1060 gaming X for 255$
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...5-at-jet-com-first-time-jet-shoppers.2485027/

 

[raghu78]

I like to stick to the facts , not future telling, or using games that might represent the next newest COD.

Here are some facts...........If you buy a gtx1060 today.......
You will have the fastest solution for under $300.
You will have a card that generates less heat in your case than any card in its class.
You will have a card that uses less power than any card in its class.
You will have a card that will overclock and mop the floor with anything in its class in every game except mabe Hitman.
You will have a quiet card.

These are the facts we have today, FACTS! not future telling stories, a bunch of mabe's , could be's or we think.

The 1060 6gb is the best card for under 300$. Fact!

The fact is custom Rx 480 8GB OC is pretty much on par with GTX 1060 OC . Depending on the games you play either card could be significantly faster. The fact is AMD Rx 480's big wins are in 2016 games like Doom, Hitman, Deus Ex Mankind Divided and its generally the better card for DX12. Rx 480 8GB also has higher VRAM capacity which makes it better positioned for future games. We already see games like Deus Ex Mankind Divided take up a lot of VRAM at Ultra settings.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/94969-sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-4gb-8gb-oc/?page=7
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016...x_1060_founders_edition_review/4#.V8TpEfkrLIU
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-test/3/

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016...divided_performance_iq_preview/4#.V8TpcvkrLIU
http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzn...ind_divided_premiera_bez_directx_12?page=0,10
http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzn...ind_divided_premiera_bez_directx_12?page=0,11
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Deus-.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirectX-12-1204575/

Rx 480 is also significantly faster than GTX 1060 in COD BO3 the most recent game in COD series.

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07...diagramm-call-of-duty-black-ops-iii-1920-1080

Given the fact that BF1 is a AMD gaming evolved title and the next gen frostbite engine is going to support DX12 I would say that Rx 480 is likely to hold the edge in that title too.

So do not make broad statements that 1060 is the faster card. It is the more power efficient card without a doubt. But both these cards trade blows with the GTX 1060's wins coming in much older DX11 titles from 2013-2015.

OP if you are not in a hurry wait for Oct and then get a card based on performance on the upcoming COD and BF games. The prices should also come down.

 

[IEC]

Given that the most recent COD Black Ops title runs almost 20 FPS faster (109.1 vs 89.7 for aftermarket 480 vs aftermarket 1060), and that BF1 is an AMD Gaming Evolved title... it seems likely that OP's #1 and #2 games he is buying for will perform better on the RX 480.

Then there's Doom, where the RX 480 really shines:

Given the trend in new games released in 2016, particularly with DX12 or Vulkan - it again seems likely that the RX 480 will perform better vis-a-vis the GTX 1060 in BF1 and the new COD.

That's not to say the GTX 1060 isn't a good option - it just isn't the best option given the request of the OP.

 

[Erenhardt]

I just finished Rise of the Tomb Raider, an excellent game on my much slower overclocked gtx960 4gb on high settings at about 50fps. A gtx1060 will easily play the game on very high at 60+ fps. Its been my experience that very high and ultra are not all that much different. I use a 1080p monitor @ 60hz.

DO you like racing games?
Project Cars is excellent, and I play Dirt Rally some also.
Coming from a PS4 you must also play the Crysis series.
Go to youtube and take a look at some of these titles running on PC, you will be impressed.

Hot deal.
MSI gtx1060 gaming X for 255$
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...5-at-jet-com-first-time-jet-shoppers.2485027/

You forgot to apply new patch for RoTR:

This is with i5. 4460 So much for AMD driver overhead...

Wanna improve your RoTR experience? Sell this 1060, get 470! or 480 and freesync display with 75Hz refresh rate and enjoy a tear free smooth frames.

You like racing games too? Wanna play almost 2 yr old games?
How about something new:

Why would you play Crysis again?

 

[happy medium]

Geforce GTX 1060 @ Battlefield 1 Beta
DX11
1080p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 102/72 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 90/60 FPS
1440p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 71/54 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 59/40 FPS

DX12
1080p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 92/64 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 91/45 FPS
1440p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 68/48 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 62/25 FPS
www.sweclockers.com/test/22567-snabbtest-battlefield-1-beta-i-directx-11-och-directx-12

add the 1060's superior overclocking and its a easy win.one thing looks for sure.....a 1060 will have 60fps @1080p,ultra settings.

 

[REEF_AND_FRIENDS]

Geforce GTX 1060 @ Battlefield 1 Beta
DX11
1080p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 102/72 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 90/60 FPS
1440p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 71/54 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 59/40 FPS

DX12
1080p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 92/64 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 91/45 FPS
1440p Ultra
- 1060 6GB: 68/48 FPS
- RX 480 8GB: 62/25 FPS
www.sweclockers.com/test/22567-snabbtest-battlefield-1-beta-i-directx-11-och-directx-12

add the 1060's superior overclocking and its a easy win.one thing looks for sure.....a 1060 will have 60fps @1080p,ultra settings.

Every 1060 vs 480 video i see the 1060 comes out on top

 

[Bacon1]

Both cards are running Ultra @ 60fps+ @ 1080p.

Every 1060 vs 480 video i see the 1060 comes out on top

Are they mostly reference vs custom?

Custom vs Custom they are within 5% avg

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-oder-sapphire-radeon-rx-480/2/

 

[Arachnotronic]

Every 1060 vs 480 video i see the 1060 comes out on top

If it were my money, I'd buy a 1060 -- it's the better all-rounder, IMHO.

 

[poofyhairguy]

We should see a $400 GTX1070 drop to $360-370 around November, as is usually the case with the best GPU deals during November

We are already there if you use the Jet.com coupon:

https://jet.com/product/Asus-NVIDIA...I-Express-Vi/a7c14afa10af44ad86b1eb0b68f0263a

 

[Bacon1]

Every 1060 vs 480 video i see the 1060 comes out on top

https://youtu.be/gcNgLyRTMuo?t=260

For BF1, they trade blows between controlled setting vs actual gameplay.

 

[Phynaz]

Every 1060 vs 480 video i see the 1060 comes out on top

The 1060 is the better card.

 

[DamZe]

The 1060 is the better card.

Only power consumption wise, performance wise the RX480 is going to cream it in upcoming DX12/Vulkan titles.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Only power consumption wise, performance wise the RX480 is going to cream it in upcoming DX12/Vulkan titles.

[citation needed]

 

[amenx]

I laughed when I saw the Doom chart. Both cards do 100fps +. The game may be useful when comparing entry level cards.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I laughed when I saw the Doom chart. Both cards do 100fps +. The game may be useful when comparing entry level cards.

Doom is a really well optimized game. It doesn't go overboard in terms of visual fidelity, draw distances, or anything. But the engine is good enough to support the vision that the developers were aiming for and the game itself is just really fun.

 

[Rifter]

its simple.

If you plan to play mostly older DX 11 games get a 1060, if you plan to play newer DX 12 games get a Rx 480.

 

[Arachnotronic]

its simple.

If you plan to play mostly older DX 11 games get a 1060, if you plan to play newer DX 12 games get a Rx 480.

Well, unless those games run better on NVIDIA

 

[Bacon1]

Well, unless those games run better on NVIDIA

Guess you'd say the exact same thing when the 480 is faster in DX11 then?


Trolling is not allowed
Markfw900

 

[IEC]

Guess you'd say the exact same thing when the 480 is faster in DX11 then?

Remember the $200 R9 290 and $240 R9 290X custom cards? Yeah, certain posters here still recommended a 780 or 780 Ti at the time. Then it became a $300 970 or $450+ 980. We all know how that turned out. That's what happens when you cherry pick a metric or two and miss the big picture and the overall trend - AMD cards tend to improve significantly vis-a-vis their nVidia counterparts with time. The 290/X is still beating its competition - even the competition that's 1 generation newer or 1 tier higher performance bracket! (970/980) Especially in DX12 and Vulkan (again, big picture).

If OP plans to keep his card for longer than a year, I'd wager the RX 480 8GB will age quite a bit better than the GTX 1060 6GB. With console ports increasingly using more vRAM the 8GB will also come in handy sooner than people think.

You can see the big picture here - the 1060 loses even to last-generation AMD GPUs in DX12:

Source: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...iews/73040-nvidia-gtx-1060-6gb-review-21.html

 

[REEF_AND_FRIENDS]

1 thing i like about 480 is crossfire. If i need another card later on i can get one.

 

[Arachnotronic]

1 thing i like about 480 is crossfire. If i need another card later on i can get one.

Multi-GPU support these days is spotty and only getting worse. And, by the time your RX 480 isn't good enough to play games, the RX 480 won't be available for sale. You'll have to hit up the used market and at that point why bother with the multi-GPU headache? Sell your 480 and get a newer, higher performance single card.

Don't let SLI/XFire support be the deciding factor here because the odds are really good that you won't add a second card later. I would recommend saving a bit more and going with the 1070 at the get-go, though.

 

[Headfoot]

Multi-GPU support these days is spotty and only getting worse. And, by the time your RX 480 isn't good enough to play games, the RX 480 won't be available for sale. You'll have to hit up the used market and at that point why bother with the multi-GPU headache? Sell your 480 and get a newer, higher performance single card.

Don't let SLI/XFire support be the deciding factor here because the odds are really good that you won't add a second card later. I would recommend saving a bit more and going with the 1070 at the get-go, though.

Agreed. Skip multi card until you can't buy a single faster card unless you only play games on Steam sale at least 6 months after they come out.

 

[Rifter]

Agreed. Skip multi card until you can't buy a single faster card unless you only play games on Steam sale at least 6 months after they come out.

I agree, I've ran sli gtx460's for 5 years. If that taught me anything it's that playing games at launch is a bad idea if you want sli to work, also that nvidia drops old cards like hot potatoes after 1.5-2 years as far as driver support and then getting sli to work requires alot more tweaking. If going sli/Cf be prepared to spend alot of time tweaking setting for each individual game to get it to run at its best with the least stutter. Perhaps this would be easier with Cf as amd has alot better long term driver support, but I've never tried Cf.

Also if going sli/Cf do it right away, the whole add another card later never works because in 2 years you will probably be able to buy a card twice as fast as your current card for the same price, making spending on a second for sli/Cf a bad decision. As a faster single card will always be better from a lag/stutter standpoint.