Need Advice! Fiance of mine wants to experience more...UPDATED!

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rahvin

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Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Again, did she tell you she wants to date other men?

Why is everyone assuming her saying she wants to have fun means dating other men?

Sounds to me like she wants to be able to spend time with her girlfriends doing girl stuff and yes, she probably is being smothered right now. You guys live, work and carpool together? Do you do anything independant of each other?

Okay - went back and read more of what the poster said thru the thread.
Kinda all over the page with things here.... you are inserting your own feelings into this and trying to figure out what she means.

You need to talk to her. Ask her what the parameters are here, what exactly she means and is she going to date other men or not.

Her response to this is all you need to know.

Your not assuming, but you are young. All the people I know that are older have said the exact same thing. She wants out, she wants to date and see other people and see if she can find something better. Those are old enough to have gone through that or had friends go through that know EXACTLY what she is saying. Her actions are VERY VERY common. Everyone over 25 should know at least 1 girl that has done this exact thing.
 

LordThing

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Again, did she tell you she wants to date other men?

Why is everyone assuming her saying she wants to have fun means dating other men?

Sounds to me like she wants to be able to spend time with her girlfriends doing girl stuff and yes, she probably is being smothered right now. You guys live, work and carpool together? Do you do anything independant of each other?

Okay - went back and read more of what the poster said thru the thread.
Kinda all over the page with things here.... you are inserting your own feelings into this and trying to figure out what she means.

You need to talk to her. Ask her what the parameters are here, what exactly she means and is she going to date other men or not.

Her response to this is all you need to know.

Your not assuming, but you are young. All the people I know that are older have said the exact same thing. She wants out, she wants to date and see other people and see if she can find something better. Those are old enough to have gone through that or had friends go through that know EXACTLY what she is saying. Her actions are VERY VERY common. Everyone over 25 should know at least 1 girl that has done this exact thing.


27, and I could name at least 3 relationships, other than mine, that has gone through this. Not always the girl, sometimes the guy does this too. But normally, it's the girl that phrases it this way. If it was the guy doing this, she would automatically say you are cheating on her and you are a jerk that wont accept her. Since it's the girl doing this, we are all supposed to be sensitive guys and try to help her fullfill her needs. Screw that. You have needs too. This is 50/50.

 

Rob9874

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I didn't take the time to read the other posts, so I apologize if this was said before. But she's wanting to have her cake and eat it too. She's being honest. She wants to marry you, but doesn't want to sacrifice going out and partying (and/or sleeping with more guys). I would say if she's not willing to sacrifice all that for you now, she probably won't after the wedding. If she demands her freedom, see it as a sign from God to get out.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
sounds like she wants to break up and doesn't have the balls to dump you straight out

move to another city and call her in 3 years or not

Introduce her to Electric Amish, he'll take care of the rest.
 

AmerDoux

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Uh-huh, you guys could all be right on the money too.
tommigsr needs to be asking her what exactly she means.
That will answer his question.
Just dont assume or insert your own definitions into what is going on.
 

NorthRiver

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I have been married for 9 years, and I probably know what she is thinking. She is BORED. It is the same crap, over and over. I know that I have had enough, but I am comfortable. I know that is selfish, but hey, it is the truth!

My ex wife was just like your girl. Get rid of her asap!

Too much stress, and what ifs. Find yourself a new girl, and never look back. I still have contact with my ex because we have a 11 year old daughter together.
I still love her, and she loves me, but we had to move on. It is okay to be friends, but never expect to get back with her.
 
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She's playing you. Cut her loose, that will whip her back into shape or she'll bail, either way you will be better off. But to be fair, I haven't read this whole thread, and you called her your fiance, so maybe she still wants to be with you and just isn't ready to get married, and this is her way of delaying it without coming out and actually saying so.
 

spidey07

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I'll chime in again and say...

Her reaction and story is VERY, VERY common. She wants out.

I'd suggest giving her an ultimatum or simply saying "I hope you find what your looking for with somebody else, I wish you sincerely the best of luck and have really enjoyed our time together. We can work on our assets tomorrow."
 

BruceLee

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Originally posted by: tommigsr
My fiance and I have been together for approximately 2 years and so so months. We got together when we were freshmens in college. Our relationship has been the best and it's gotten to the point where our lives are set as a routine. We work together at the same place and our fathers work there as well. Everything is as perfect as could be, except for one problem. She feels that she is too young to get married and that she hasn't experienced enough before me.

She says that I came too soon in her life. She wants to have fun before settling down... As for me...I'm all for her going out to experience whatever she needs, because I love her so.

She also says that I am the one that she will marry at the end, no matter what happens.

I'm in such a weird situation, but I don't want to hold her back on what she wants to do that would make her happy. It's something that I guess could help both sides.

Please be considerate of your inputs. This is a very serious matter. Thank you in advance.

This is the first and only post I have read in this thread. Typical kinda crap you hear from one of the dumbest animals on earth (Women). That is garbage, she's just putting you off till she is "ready". pffff. If she really cared about you or wanted to be with you she would, no matter what. This is just plain garbage dude (typical I only care about myself kinda stuff), and if you wait out for her you are a sucker. Even if she does "have more fun" before settling down, do you think you will feel good about having your girl go out and screw a hundred guys jusat so you will still be there waiting for here??? THAT IS A CROCK OF SH!T! Move on dude, this girl sounds like your typical survivor contestant. I am being very serious too. I know I might come off like a dick, but that is one hell of a slap in the face. If you let her use you like this, your marriage won't last long. You gotta stand up to that girl and say "This is Fvcking BULLSH!T" That is exactly what it is man, and if you don't think so you need to re-evaluate things. I hope things work out for the best, but man you gotta put your foot down that gets me irritated just thinking about that.
 

SP33Demon

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Don't u regret having HBO now!!!??? And you though Sex and the City morals would be entertaining to watch with your g/f, didn't u? Now she wants to be like them!
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: tommigsr
....it can't be over...we share bank accounts, a house together, and a car together as well.

Ummm, yes it can.... and thats what she wants.


It's obvious, move on, forget about her, or try to. I've seen similar situations.
 

Brutuskend

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Am I the only one here that sees the big picture?

Way too many people get married TOO damn young, before they have experienced life, and all to often because of THIS, the marriage doesn't last. I think she at least SEE'S this, and doesn't want to fall into that trap.

Remember the old saying. "If you love something, set it free. If it returns to you, it's yours. If it doesn't, it NEVER was."
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: tommigsr
haha i know for a FACT she won't find a better guy than me...not to be cocky or anything like that but all the guys that she's dated are assholes! never treated her with the respect that i've given her. i know, cuz i've met them. i've heard them on the phone when she talks to her ex's...they still stay in touch, because they call her, not cuz she calls them.

err, she talks regularly with her exes? she is already cheating on you, at least thats what it sounds like....
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: tommigsr
haha she's not a whore for sure. She's not that type of girl where she wants sex all the time or even casual.

that's because she is probably getting it somewhere else... thats why she appares to not want it much..
 

mztykal

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Originally posted by: nativesunshine
Um...

and you bought that?

But lemme ask you this,

are YOU allowed to go out and "experience" more?


If not, then she's just playing you.

If so, then you shouldn't even be thinking about getting married (to each other) anyway...because it's NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

EDIT: apparently, I can't type (or spell)


Sometimes I wonder whether you're a chick or a guy. You think more like a guy than anyone else, and your posts reflec that. LOL!
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: tommigsr
haha i know for a FACT she won't find a better guy than me...not to be cocky or anything like that but all the guys that she's dated are assholes! never treated her with the respect that i've given her. i know, cuz i've met them. i've heard them on the phone when she talks to her ex's...they still stay in touch, because they call her, not cuz she calls them.

err, she talks regularly with her exes? she is already cheating on you, at least thats what it sounds like....

LOL Somehow I'm doubting your qualifications to give relationship advice as much as I'm doubting tommimsgr's qualifications to be in the relationship :)
 

rgwalt

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Originally posted by: tommigsr
i will ask her for an elaborated answer and get back with you guys tomorrow!

Good luck buddy, let us know what happens.

Ryan

 

Krassus

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I wish i had something better to say, but it sounds like she doesn't love you. She's bored beacuse she's young and her routine life probably reminds her of her parents, which scares the hell out of her. So she wants someone who can keep the excitement level up. Bullsh1t, i know. Sorry :(
 

dxkj

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: tommigsr
haha i know for a FACT she won't find a better guy than me...not to be cocky or anything like that but all the guys that she's dated are assholes! never treated her with the respect that i've given her. i know, cuz i've met them. i've heard them on the phone when she talks to her ex's...they still stay in touch, because they call her, not cuz she calls them.

err, she talks regularly with her exes? she is already cheating on you, at least thats what it sounds like....

LOL Somehow I'm doubting your qualifications to give relationship advice as much as I'm doubting tommimsgr's qualifications to be in the relationship :)

Heh, ok, so I'm just judging her by the standards of other women I know, who have acted similarly. It doesn't mean Im right at all. Just simply talking to her exes regularly doesnt mean anything, but that combined with everything else Ive seen posted by him makes it add up to that.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Am I the only one here that sees the big picture?

Way too many people get married TOO damn young, before they have experienced life, and all to often because of THIS, the marriage doesn't last. I think she at least SEE'S this, and doesn't want to fall into that trap.

Remember the old saying. "If you love something, set it free. If it returns to you, it's yours. If it doesn't, it NEVER was."
I agree... he should set her free. But he shouldn't expect her to come back. Because she won't.

Tommy, ask yourself a question. If you were to have been the first to suggest the same thing to her, that you should be able to see other women but also be able to come back to her at anytime, what do you think her reaction would have been?

Exactly. What she has proposed to you is unacceptable in any relationship. She is being selfish on an order so exteme that it would defy comprehension if this kind of thing wasn't so common.

Get out. She doesn't love you. Sorry.
 

tommigsr

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: tommigsr
haha i know for a FACT she won't find a better guy than me...not to be cocky or anything like that but all the guys that she's dated are assholes! never treated her with the respect that i've given her. i know, cuz i've met them. i've heard them on the phone when she talks to her ex's...they still stay in touch, because they call her, not cuz she calls them.

err, she talks regularly with her exes? she is already cheating on you, at least thats what it sounds like....

LOL Somehow I'm doubting your qualifications to give relationship advice as much as I'm doubting tommimsgr's qualifications to be in the relationship :)

haha, doubting me in a relationship? SHlT i doubt myself in a relationship. i'm gonna have a really long talk with her tonight...see what comes about...i can't sleep or work or do anything cuz i keep thinking about it. it's weird cuz she's working right now and occasionally she comes down and gives me a kiss like usual.
 

Jzero

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Heh, ok, so I'm just judging her by the standards of other women I know, who have acted similarly. It doesn't mean Im right at all. Just simply talking to her exes regularly doesnt mean anything, but that combined with everything else Ive seen posted by him makes it add up to that.
Now I'm following you :)
Actually, I don't think she's made the move yet. Probably not with an ex if she has. But I'd bet the farm she's got her eye on someone else already.
 

BD2003

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It sounds like its over. I dont know if I'd go as far as to say shes already cheating on you, but at the very least shes having thoughts and considering it.

You dont need to break up, you need a break. Let her experience life, and do the same yourself. Being in a relationship is cool and all, but youve both gone too far too fast. Freshman year is waaaay too early to be engaged. She's been with you so long she forgets what its like without you. And vice versa.

Give it two or three months. Let her be for that time, dont hound her. Enjoy being single for a while. After a couple of months off, both of you will know whether you want to start it up again or not. I know it sounds ridiculous right now, but theres a very good chance that you yourself will feel different about HER in a few months. If its meant to be, itll come back together.