NASCAR banning confederate flag at all events and properties

[TheVrolok]

I hate to pop your bubble. Well actually I don't hate it. But the majority on this message board does not equal "The Masses".

Repeat after yourself, "I don't get it."

 

[pcgeek11]

no you've done it. I can't help but ask

PC since you did mention book burning, what is your example?

Slippery slope. Banning one thing leads to others sooner or later.

 

[pcgeek11]

Repeat after yourself, "I don't get it."

LOL

 

[HomerJS]

I don't agree with the comparison.

Just so I understand in both cases the losing side of a war where one side supported evil isn't an apt comparison?

Unless that is your way of avoiding an answer. In that case we get it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I never said anything about their rights to change their name as they see fit. I am speaking about the pressure to do such a thing. Formed the group in 2006 and were fine with it for 14 years.

It is now the culture to cancel and ban things. Pretty slippery slope in my opinion.

I never felt it was the government doing any of this crap.

Conservatives have been banning things for a couple thousand years. Strange that they all of a sudden have a problem with it.

 

[Veliko]

I never said anything about their rights to change their name as they see fit. I am speaking about the pressure to do such a thing. Formed the group in 2006 and were fine with it for 14 years.

It is now the culture to cancel and ban things. Pretty slippery slope in my opinion.

I never felt it was the government doing any of this crap.

Joy Division changed their name.
Prince changed his name.
The band "I am the World Trade Center" changed their name for a while post 9/11

Which of those changes would you consider political correctness gone mad?

 

[Moonbeam]

Conservatives have been banning things for a couple thousand years. Strange that they all of a sudden have a problem with it.

It was a slippery slope. They tried to ban liberals for years and now the whipped dog has decided to bite the hand that beat it. We create what we fear. The conservative Sieg Heil salute to confederate culture will now become culturally uncouth. The shit namers turn in the barrel to be named shit.

 

[zzyzxroad]

I never said anything about their rights to change their name as they see fit. I am speaking about the pressure to do such a thing. Formed the group in 2006 and were fine with it for 14 years.

It is now the culture to cancel and ban things. Pretty slippery slope in my opinion.

I never felt it was the government doing any of this crap.

Oh look someone found the new trending term from the right.

 

[Vic]

Conservatives have been banning things for a couple thousand years. Strange that they all of a sudden have a problem with it.

He sounds like one of those types who complains about liberal 'cancel culture' and will argue that conservatives never ban anything or engage in boycotts, while mindlessly ignoring that conservative groups have been the leading force of bans and boycotts in the US for decades. Yaknow, like the Parent Television Council trying to control what we're allowed to watch on TV, Franklin Graham & co boycotting Target (or whatever is his boycott du joir), and alt-right idiots on twitter who recently discovered that Rage Against the Machine is political.

 

[fskimospy]

Just so I understand in both cases the losing side of a war where one side supported evil isn't an apt comparison?

Unless that is your way of avoiding an answer. In that case we get it.

It is most certainly his way of avoiding an answer.

 

[HomerJS]

It is most certainly his way of avoiding an answer.

@pcgeek11 is a bit of a coward when it comes to the truth. He's great with his rhetoric.

 

[fskimospy]

@pcgeek11 is a bit of a coward when it comes to the truth. He's great with his rhetoric.

I mean it’s a pretty established playbook. He will say they are not the same and when asked why he will say his reasons are a secret.

 

[pcgeek11]

Joy Division changed their name.
Prince changed his name.
The band "I am the World Trade Center" changed their name for a while post 9/11

Which of those changes would you consider political correctness gone mad?

Joy Division - Never heard of them.
Prince - As far as I know it wasn't a political thing only a publicity stunt.
The band "I am the World Trade Center" - Never heard of them.

 

[pcgeek11]

He sounds like one of those types who complains about liberal 'cancel culture' and will argue that conservatives never ban anything or engage in boycotts, while mindlessly ignoring that conservative groups have been the leading force of bans and boycotts in the US for decades. Yaknow, like the Parent Television Council trying to control what we're allowed to watch on TV, Franklin Graham & co boycotting Target (or whatever is his boycott du joir), and alt-right idiots on twitter who recently discovered that Rage Against the Machine is political.

Nope, I think all of that crap is stupid.

 

[pcgeek11]

@pcgeek11 is a bit of a coward when it comes to the truth. He's great with his rhetoric.

I'll give you an answer. The South wasn't even close to comparison with the German Nazi's. That comparison you tried to make is asinine. The Nazis attempted to eradicate an entire people. The south did wrongly enslave black people and it was wrong. It is however a far cry from killing millions in the horrible conditions in concentration camps.

 

[Staples]

This is a huge move. They will lose half their fans. Just like the NFL did with the Kapernick scandal. I love that Trump fans love to call everyone snowflakes but they are the people who get their feeling hurt the easiest.

 

[hal2kilo]

This is a huge move. They will lose half their fans. Just like the NFL did with the Kapernick scandal. I love that Trump fans love to call everyone snowflakes but they are the people who get their feeling hurt the easiest.

Can't count how many white guys sitting at a bar with a NFL football game on say they will never watch another NFL game. Yea, so committed.

 

[fskimospy]

I'll give you an answer. The South wasn't even close to comparison with the German Nazi's. That comparison you tried to make is asinine. The Nazis attempted to eradicate an entire people. The south did wrongly enslave black people and it was wrong. It is however a far cry from killing millions in the horrible conditions in concentration camps.

I mean they both thought certain groups of people were subhuman and that it was both necessary and proper to enslave them and have them work to the benefit of white people. In both cases they were so committed to this murderous racism that they burned their countries to the ground fighting to preserve it. They aren’t completely identical, but the Confederacy is the closest thing to Nazism the modern world has seen.

I am proud of you for answering though!

 

[Vic]

Nope, I think all of that crap is stupid.

Which is why you've never complained about 'that crap' from conservatives here before, but you're ranting in this thread about liberal 'cancel culture' as though liberals are the only ones who do 'that crap.'

 

[pcgeek11]

@pcgeek11 is a bit of a coward when it comes to the truth. He's great with his rhetoric.

I mean it’s a pretty established playbook. He will say they are not the same and when asked why he will say his reasons are a secret.

You guys are comedians. It doesn't matter what I say with you.

If I say something that disagrees with your opinion or perception you resort to name calling.

If I say something that agrees with your position you ridicule my response and call me a liar.

 

[pcgeek11]

I mean they both thought certain groups of people were subhuman and that it was both necessary and proper to enslave them and have them work to the benefit of white people. In both cases they were so committed to this murderous racism that they burned their countries to the ground fighting to preserve it. They aren’t completely identical, but the Confederacy is the closest thing to Nazism the modern world has seen.

I am proud of you for answering though!

We have different opinions.

 

[Vic]

I'll give you an answer. The South wasn't even close to comparison with the German Nazi's. That comparison you tried to make is asinine. The Nazis attempted to eradicate an entire people. The south did wrongly enslave black people and it was wrong. It is however a far cry from killing millions in the horrible conditions in concentration camps.

Yeah, because the conditions in the slave quarters were freakin awesome.

 

[Vic]

We have different opinions.

We know... your opinion is extremely consistent in that you defend the morally indefensible on every single issue. So kudos to you for that!

 

[pcgeek11]

Which is why you've never complained about 'that crap' from conservatives here before, but you're ranting in this thread about liberal 'cancel culture' as though liberals are the only ones who do 'that crap.'

There are Lots of Things I've never done in here before... So.

Your definition of ranting seems to be off.

Ranting - to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild or vehement way; rave:

Speaking my opinion doesn't equal ranting.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yeah, because the conditions in the slave quarters were freakin awesome.

That wasn't the comparison. Nor was it the claim made by me.
Keep grasping.