Nasa proves biblical events?????

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Yzzim

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Originally posted by: Evadman
There is evidence of a "great flood". I remember watching a show on it about 10 years ago or so. I think it was on the Medeteranian sea, and the fact that there was a huge underground trough cut by water as it flowed into the sea from the atlantic.

Or it was on the black sea being filled from the medeterainian, with a huge trough cut through the access when the "finger" of land failed.

I don't remember which unfortunately, but I am leaning towards the black sea, since I remember another show where they found buildings and villages on the bottom.

many cultures explain of a "great flood" taking place ions ago.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: BD231
Exactly my thoughts. It is the absence of data from those times that makes this story completely unbelievable.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT YOU DUMB FVCKS

Someone saying this event happened means that divine intervention is the only possible explanation, open your frikin eyes :frown:.
Agreed, I have no interest in the divine intervention aspect of the letter however, I was interested in a logical explaination based on empirical evidence that would either show a surprising and co-incidental corellation between the mathmatical data and bible stories or as Dave was kind enough to provide the explanation of, invalidate it by pointing out the lack of empirical data needed to calculate such an event.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: BD231
Exactly my thoughts. It is the absence of data from those times that makes this story completely unbelievable.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT YOU DUMB FVCKS

Someone saying this event happened means that divine intervention is the only possible explanation, open your frikin eyes :frown:.

Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been
called "myth" in the
Bible is true?

This is the topic, and this is what is being refuted. The email made a claim, and BD231 was saying that claim is completely unbelievable. The space program is not proving anything about "stopping the sun".
 

alexruiz

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Originally posted by: Vic

The Bible does NOT say that Pi=3
Only people with no understanding of the history of mathematics believe that. As "zero" was not invented in mathematics until the first century AD and the Arabic numeric system until centuries after that, Hebrew, like many ancient languages, used letters for numbers (similar to the Romans) and had no decimal points or decimals. Even at that, they still had one of the most advanced mathematical systems for ~1000 BC (the passage is in reference to building the circular font at Solomon's Temple).
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Good post my friend! I think that the Mayans had the zero even before Christ... Let me go and find out more.
 

BD231

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I have no interest in the divine intervention aspect of the letter

This is the only aspect of this letter that could possibly hold interest for ANYONE smart enough to know what they were reading. NASA is not working on proving this, simply because it can't be proven mathematically, how the obviousness of this eluded you long enough to post the topic on a message board is beyond me. I'm quite surprised there are others on this earth who did not pick up on this untill it was explained to them :confused:.
 

Anubis

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There is and never will be a GOD. therfore the Bible = 1 BIG FUKIN LIE!!!!!!!!!!

get over it
 
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Originally posted by: TheEvil1
There is and never will be a GOD. therfore the Bible = 1 BIG FUKIN LIE!!!!!!!!!!

get over it
The maturity ... the logic of the arguments ... it's too much! My wisdom is nothing against the power of your CapsLock key! I must ph34r j00!!111

rolleye.gif


- M4H
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: BD231
I have no interest in the divine intervention aspect of the letter

This is the only aspect of this letter that could possibly hold interest for ANYONE smart enough to know what they were reading. NASA is not working on proving this, simply because it can't be proven mathematically, how the obviousness of this eluded you long enough to post the topic on a message board is beyond me. I'm quite surprised there are others on this earth who did not pick up on this untill it was explained to them :confused:.
insults and passing judgement with profound negativity and hostility are not known for denoting wisdom which can be far more useful than cyrstalized intillegence in the real world ;) I started this thread for 2 reasons, one was I was truly interested in wether mathmatics could be applied to such an event as I have already confessed ignorance on the subject and my math skills do not extend beyond basic college algebra and it's been years since I took that. Surely you've been ignorant of something in your life and actively sought an answer from another? The 2nd was the Pavlov effect, the word bible here has a conditioned response that I knew this thread would elict and since I rarely stop in this forum I thought I'd duck in to see a few old ATOT friends and rattle the cage a little as several ATers can attest to buy the PMs we have exchanged ;) well you have provided me with an amusing diversion while waiting for my supplies to arrive so I can get back to work and for that I thank you :)
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: TheEvil1
There is and never will be a GOD. therfore the Bible = 1 BIG FUKIN LIE!!!!!!!!!!

get over it
The maturity ... the logic of the arguments ... it's too much! My wisdom is nothing against the power of your CapsLock key! I must ph34r j00!!111

rolleye.gif


- M4H
:)
 

BatmanNate

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You guys can really be dicks sometimes. I had to read through this whole thread full of rolling eyes, childish rhetoric, and baseless argument to find all of two posts that contained any information pertinent to the topic. Whether or not you think it is absurd, or you believe that there is/is not a diety behind it, there is no reason to be an ass and clutter up the thread. Posters like 'ThePresense' and 'Vic' were some of the few that actually had something to offer. :disgust:
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
You guys can really be dicks sometimes. I had to read through this whole thread full of rolling eyes, childish rhetoric, and baseless argument to find all of two posts that contained any information pertinent to the topic. Whether or not you think it is absurd, or you believe that there is/is not a diety behind it, there is no reason to be an ass and clutter up the thread. Posters like 'ThePresense' and 'Vic' were some of the few that actually had something to offer. :disgust:
The pavlov effect I spoke of Nate ;) thanks for stopping in though it's good to read a rational post from time to time in ATOT :)
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: BD231
I have no interest in the divine intervention aspect of the letter

This is the only aspect of this letter that could possibly hold interest for ANYONE smart enough to know what they were reading. NASA is not working on proving this, simply because it can't be proven mathematically, how the obviousness of this eluded you long enough to post the topic on a message board is beyond me. I'm quite surprised there are others on this earth who did not pick up on this untill it was explained to them :confused:.
Not quite true, if we had accurate celestial data from before biblical times we could mathematically prove or disprove a divine event. Consider if God decided to freeze the Moon's orbit for 30 seconds this afternoon -- aside from eyesight and cameras we also have the data and models to prove where the moon should be mathematically.

Also, there's nothing wrong with being unaware of exactly how computer simulations operate or how extrapolation works. That's one reason why he posted. Not everyone writes software or is a mathematician.

 

klah

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The reply of the dogmatic defender of the good cause I should not read at all. I know beforehand that he will attack the sophistical arguments of his opponent simply in order to gain acceptance for his own; and I also know that a quite familiar line of false argument does not yield so much material for new observations as one that is novel and ingeniously elaborated.
 

Lithium381

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: TheEvil1
There is and never will be a GOD. therfore the Bible = 1 BIG FUKIN LIE!!!!!!!!!!

get over it
The maturity ... the logic of the arguments ... it's too much! My wisdom is nothing against the power of your CapsLock key! I must ph34r j00!!111

rolleye.gif


- M4H
:)

rolleye.gif


interesting read those of you who posted relevant info, thanks!!! People have opinions, and that's the only thing they've got, so they defend them....which is why we have these heated "debates" of childish bickering :D this entertained me for a good 10 minutes, yay

 

Jittles

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Jittles
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wow, a chain email, great source for legit information.

yesterday my bsod proved the validity of 0roo0roos new testament.
Did I state I believed it? typical judgemental response from the ATOT pimple farmers who think of nothing but post count++. I wanted to hear in explaination for the celestial mechanics that would refute or affirm wether there are mathmatical irregularities and if it's considered a reasonable margin of error or abberation with no mathmatical answer thus propitiating the continued claims by religious people or shutting down their claims catagorically. Feel free to piss up a rope with the other useless posters ;)

give me a break you dont want to hear anything that would refute your precious book. and math, science, and reason are lost on the people who write and forward these idiotic emails.

the bible says pi is 3, do you believe that?


For reals? Where's it say that pi is 3? I wanna see that

1 Kings 7:23


Check this site out.


PI according to the bible DOES = 3.14....etc. This shows that the biblical pi is only 0.00026% off from the real pi, pretty damn good if you ask me.

I would like to point out that looking at this website skepticsannotatedbible or somethin like that, I find that all the arguments they list there can be debunked in one way or the other. The main method being going back and looking at the original Hebrew/Greek. My dad knows both those and he is a very excellent resource for this kind of thing.
 

DAPUNISHER

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nah! I killed it when I revealed it was the pavlov effect ;) It also serves to demonstrate that non-religious fanatics are no different than religious ones, they just have a different Dogma and they are far less hypocritical.
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: Jittles
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Jittles
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wow, a chain email, great source for legit information.

yesterday my bsod proved the validity of 0roo0roos new testament.
Did I state I believed it? typical judgemental response from the ATOT pimple farmers who think of nothing but post count++. I wanted to hear in explaination for the celestial mechanics that would refute or affirm wether there are mathmatical irregularities and if it's considered a reasonable margin of error or abberation with no mathmatical answer thus propitiating the continued claims by religious people or shutting down their claims catagorically. Feel free to piss up a rope with the other useless posters ;)

give me a break you dont want to hear anything that would refute your precious book. and math, science, and reason are lost on the people who write and forward these idiotic emails.

the bible says pi is 3, do you believe that?


For reals? Where's it say that pi is 3? I wanna see that

1 Kings 7:23


Check this site out.


PI according to the bible DOES = 3.14....etc. This shows that the biblical pi is only 0.00026% off from the real pi, pretty damn good if you ask me.

I would like to point out that looking at this website skepticsannotatedbible or somethin like that, I find that all the arguments they list there can be debunked in one way or the other. The main method being going back and looking at the original Hebrew/Greek. My dad knows both those and he is a very excellent resource for this kind of thing.



lol did you read the site, hahaha
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: element®<br.
Having said that, I wonder what would have happened if a solar eclipse happened back in the day when no hewmon knew what the hell was going on. They probably thought the Lord had stopped the sun from shining.

You never read A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court??
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: element®<br.
Having said that, I wonder what would have happened if a solar eclipse happened back in the day when no hewmon knew what the hell was going on. They probably thought the Lord had stopped the sun from shining.

You never read A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court??

he must have, everyone i know has read it.

 

NewSc2

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
You guys can really be dicks sometimes. I had to read through this whole thread full of rolling eyes, childish rhetoric, and baseless argument to find all of two posts that contained any information pertinent to the topic. Whether or not you think it is absurd, or you believe that there is/is not a diety behind it, there is no reason to be an ass and clutter up the thread. Posters like 'ThePresense' and 'Vic' were some of the few that actually had something to offer. :disgust:

The first few posts say something about snopes.com and urban legend? That wasn't useful?
 

NewSc2

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DAPUNISHER, why don't you just edit your original message to say that you don't believe in it, it's just causing a lot of problem as I first saw it that you actually were pondering to see if this were true or not, but after reading your responses I concluded otherwise.
 

Jittles

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Jittles
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Jittles
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wow, a chain email, great source for legit information.

yesterday my bsod proved the validity of 0roo0roos new testament.
Did I state I believed it? typical judgemental response from the ATOT pimple farmers who think of nothing but post count++. I wanted to hear in explaination for the celestial mechanics that would refute or affirm wether there are mathmatical irregularities and if it's considered a reasonable margin of error or abberation with no mathmatical answer thus propitiating the continued claims by religious people or shutting down their claims catagorically. Feel free to piss up a rope with the other useless posters ;)

give me a break you dont want to hear anything that would refute your precious book. and math, science, and reason are lost on the people who write and forward these idiotic emails.

the bible says pi is 3, do you believe that?


For reals? Where's it say that pi is 3? I wanna see that

1 Kings 7:23


Check this site out.


PI according to the bible DOES = 3.14....etc. This shows that the biblical pi is only 0.00026% off from the real pi, pretty damn good if you ask me.

I would like to point out that looking at this website skepticsannotatedbible or somethin like that, I find that all the arguments they list there can be debunked in one way or the other. The main method being going back and looking at the original Hebrew/Greek. My dad knows both those and he is a very excellent resource for this kind of thing.



lol did you read the site, hahaha


I don't see the humor? What's wrong with the site?