My STUPID coworker things Jet Li can beat up the current UFC champions

[PaiMei]

I'm bi. How can I be a homophobe?

(Sorry everyone else for my OT posts).

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: PaiMei
I'm bi. How can I be a homophobe?

(Sorry everyone else for my OT posts).

Srry , you had semi-legit questions And don't worry about your posts

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: lyssword
Try to do small joint manipulation when a grappler mounted you and pounding you in the face.

It's surprisingly easy. Royce Gracie did just that in one of the UFC events.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: lyssword
Because it's not only grappling. UFC is pretty much the closest thing to a real fight.

It used to be a lot closer, though. They've pussified it for the benefit of the sport. Now there are a lot of rules to protect people from serious injury (aka the types of injuries one might sustain in a real fight). Still, if that's what it took to get good fighters, it was worth it.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Kev
I read it a long time ago when I was going through my obsessed with kung fu movies phase. I don't feel like looking it up, so if you don't want to believe me that's fine.

Call up Encyclopedia Britannica, they've got to hear this from a credible source like you.

I googled jet li mma
From about the middle of the page:

"On Sport Fighting

* While Li had been highly successful in non-combat Wu Shu tournaments, he has never expressed a personal interest in competing in any sport fighting or competitive martial arts such as kickboxing or MMA.
* In the Special Features section of the "Cradle 2 the Grave" DVD, Li claimed that he would be defeated in real life by professional MMA fighters such as Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, and Randy Couture, his co-stars in the film."

somebody here has that DVD, report back to us stat!

 

[torpid]

Yeah but those guys would lose big time in a broadsword forms competition!

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Kev
I read it a long time ago when I was going through my obsessed with kung fu movies phase. I don't feel like looking it up, so if you don't want to believe me that's fine.

Call up Encyclopedia Britannica, they've got to hear this from a credible source like you.

I googled jet li mma
From about the middle of the page:

"On Sport Fighting

* While Li had been highly successful in non-combat Wu Shu tournaments, he has never expressed a personal interest in competing in any sport fighting or competitive martial arts such as kickboxing or MMA.
* In the Special Features section of the "Cradle 2 the Grave" DVD, Li claimed that he would be defeated in real life by professional MMA fighters such as Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, and Randy Couture, his co-stars in the film."

somebody here has that DVD, report back to us stat!

That's much easier to buy. Still, the onus is on the asserter. It's ridiculous to go around spreading information with no/barely any justification. It's intellectually dishonest.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Kev
I read it a long time ago when I was going through my obsessed with kung fu movies phase. I don't feel like looking it up, so if you don't want to believe me that's fine.

Call up Encyclopedia Britannica, they've got to hear this from a credible source like you.

I googled jet li mma
From about the middle of the page:

"On Sport Fighting

* While Li had been highly successful in non-combat Wu Shu tournaments, he has never expressed a personal interest in competing in any sport fighting or competitive martial arts such as kickboxing or MMA.
* In the Special Features section of the "Cradle 2 the Grave" DVD, Li claimed that he would be defeated in real life by professional MMA fighters such as Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, and Randy Couture, his co-stars in the film."

somebody here has that DVD, report back to us stat!

That's much easier to buy. Still, the onus is on the asserter. It's ridiculous to go around spreading information with no/barely any justification. It's intellectually dishonest.

Anyone who follows MMA knows Jet Li wouldn't fare well in the cage...just like a boxer wouldn't fare well in the cage. You can't just be one dimensional. One doesn't have to make "intellectually honest" comments to prove that. I don't understand how that's so hard for you to understand.

 

[tigersty1e]

While Jet Li would probably get owned, you have to compare him to other 140 pound fighters.

Weight has a HUGE advantage especially in the style of fighting in MMA.

Give Jet Li some months for training and conditioning and put him up against the best 140 pound fighters and it would be an interesting fight to watch...

But not as interesting as watching Floyd Mayweather step in the ring.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I love when people argue about martial arts (provides for much humor). The only way to settle it is to actually fight, so why argue at all?

esp. when they feel the need to come and post it on atot afterwards :laugh:

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Anyone who follows MMA knows Jet Li wouldn't fare well in the cage...just like a boxer wouldn't fare well in the cage. You can't just be one dimensional. One doesn't have to make "intellectually honest" comments to prove that. I don't understand how that's so hard for you to understand.

I follow neither MMA nor Jet Li. What is quite easy for me to understand is that attributing statements to any person without justification is intellectually dishonest. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It probably isn't, but I figured I'd just throw that in there to sound like an instigating jackass like you just did.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: lyssword
Because it's not only grappling. UFC is pretty much the closest thing to a real fight.

It used to be a lot closer, though. They've pussified it for the benefit of the sport. Now there are a lot of rules to protect people from serious injury (aka the types of injuries one might sustain in a real fight). Still, if that's what it took to get good fighters, it was worth it.

the did that so they can have PPV's . when it was the old style (before dana white baught it) with no rules they had very hard times getting on cable. so they had to change th erules.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: waggythe did that so they can have PPV's . when it was the old style (before dana white baught it) with no rules they had very hard times getting on cable. so they had to change th erules.

Well, whatever the case, the sport is a million times better now because of those changes. But they did make it less like a "real" fight.

 

[Gothgar]

I don't know... I would probably vote for Jet Li too, except, he's rich now, he might not train as hard as he has in the past, and also, he is getting pretty old isn't he?

 

[Doom Machine]

no matter how great you are at fighting, you still lose some fights regardless.

imo, the whole grappling fighting thing i keep seeing on UFC is sissy fighting. not saying it doesnt do damage or not effective, it just not satisifying to watch, kinda more gaylike than anything, having mens crotches that close together is just plain sissy fighthing i dont care what anyone says.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Doom Machine
no matter how great you are at fighting, you still lose some fights regardless.

imo, the whole grappling fighting thing i keep seeing on UFC is sissy fighting. not saying it doesnt do damage or not effective, it just not satisifying to watch, kinda more gaylike than anything, having mens crotches that close together is just plain sissy fighthing i dont care what anyone says.

grappling is sissy? heh.


tell you what. go tell a wrestler that. hell a high school wrestler even one of the low weight ones. tell him you think he is a sissy because he wrestles LOL

 

[AUMM]

Originally posted by: Modeps
This thread fails. If Jet Li DIDNT train for an MMA specific even, he could still hold his own. Sure, he may not be great at the grappling aspect, but he's smart enough not to get stuck in that. He's probably knock his opponent out with a kick to the face they didnt even see coming.

you have to be kidding me... do you even watch UFC or know the fighters? the training and level some of the top guys are at is insane...

 

[intogamer]

I'm sure Jet Li can do a sick martial art move. Like attack his eyes, break the guys arm within seconds.

 

[Delita]

Jet Li has said in an interview that the UFC fighters would beat him. Jet Li is a wushu artist. Wushu is not a fighting art. I am a big Jet Li fan and realize that the UFC fighters would own him.

 

[danzigrules]

one would assume you are stupid, since you cannot even proofread your topic.

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Ironically Segal (in his prime obviously) would probably outlast Lee, Chan and Li due to his expertise in Aikido (7th dan blackbelt I believe?)

EDIT: oh well, already pointed out...but I suppose it doesn't hurt to repeat.

 

[gururu2]

jet li in his prime would own any of the UFC gents in a RL fight. i am talking about a few well placed kicks and punches to pressure points and bone fracture points. the UFC does have rules that these areas cannot be used, so in the cage, Li might not fair so well. but honestly, speed, accuracy and knowledge of a mans weakest areas is lethal.

 

[invidia]

Originally posted by: Delita
Jet Li has said in an interview that the UFC fighters would beat him. Jet Li is a wushu artist. Wushu is not a fighting art. I am a big Jet Li fan and realize that the UFC fighters would own him.

Exactly. He uses his martial arts for exercise and self improvement. He doesn't use it on real people like those in MMA/UFC. Besides in his acting but that's all planned and choreographed.


If it came down to dirty fighting and no holds, then we don't know who may win. Probably the martial artists because they're taught to take out the weak spots that aren't allowed in MMA/UFC (eye gouging, aiming for the neck, below the belt, etc.)

 

[0roo0roo]

martial arts styles are style and tradition.
mma is logic, testing of theory and evolution
mma wins.

 

[alkemyst]

Word to the wise. You can't call a fight until the fight has happened.

I am willing to bet if Bruce Lee was alive today most would say he'd be mopped all over the floor with the the top 5 of UFC.

Most of the 'actors' that were martial artists would need some time to get into fighting shape again which is WAY different than just being able to hand someone their ass.

Chuck Norris while still quite a bad ass probably wouldn't be too successful as he is near 70 now, but in his heyday he was highly underrated.