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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

Its all in SGD

So be it, I was sort of defending you at that point. I don't think many people here have a frame of reference to know what 10,000 SGD means.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I just looked at your old thread and about 5-6 different people told you not to get the Elite Pro because it would be wasted on your sound system. Your defense was that you had an excellent sound system. You do not. I've been trying to convince you that if you have the means to do so and a desire to get "the best" (which you've said a bunch of times already), spend some money on something that you actually will notice and might actually hold its value well. You'll even enjoy a good sound system if your priorities change and keeping up with the latest videocard and processor loses its appeal to you.

MS Dawn, who I think owns one and actually has equipment for it to shine even told you that you should not get it due to a variety of reasons.

Your response to all of them was along the lines of "is this the best?". It's not, but it's a very good card for gaming. If you were only concerned with gaming performance, you should have gotten the fatality. If you wanted sound quality, you should have gotten the Elite Pro, but only after you dumped 5,000+ SGD? into your sound system where you would have quality components to possibly notice the difference in the output.

 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

Its all in SGD

So be it, I was sort of defending you at that point. I don't think many people here have a frame of reference to know what 10,000 SGD means.

10000SGD divide by 1.58 = USD
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I just looked at your old thread and about 5-6 different people told you not to get the Elite Pro because it would be wasted on your sound system. Your defense was that you had an excellent sound system. You do not. I've been trying to convince you that if you have the means to do so and a desire to get "the best" (which you've said a bunch of times already), spend some money on something that you actually will notice and might actually hold its value well. You'll even enjoy a good sound system if your priorities change and keeping up with the latest videocard and processor loses its appeal to you.

MS Dawn, who I think owns one and actually has equipment for it to shine even told you that you should not get it due to a variety of reasons.

Your response to all of them was along the lines of "is this the best?". It's not, but it's a very good card for gaming. If you were only concerned with gaming performance, you should have gotten the fatality. If you wanted sound quality, you should have gotten the Elite Pro, but only after you dumped 5,000+ SGD? into your sound system where you would have quality components to possibly notice the difference in the output.

Btw sound is 2nd to me when it comes to gaming performance vs Sound.. i just want the best doesn't matter whether i fully use it or not
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
No it isn't. Your speakers suck and any REAL 1337 h4X0r would have quad SLI. n00b

:D :D :D

OP, you might want to crawl off your high horse. My spare rigs have better specs than that. :laugh:
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I just looked at your old thread and about 5-6 different people told you not to get the Elite Pro because it would be wasted on your sound system. Your defense was that you had an excellent sound system. You do not. I've been trying to convince you that if you have the means to do so and a desire to get "the best" (which you've said a bunch of times already), spend some money on something that you actually will notice and might actually hold its value well. You'll even enjoy a good sound system if your priorities change and keeping up with the latest videocard and processor loses its appeal to you.

MS Dawn, who I think owns one and actually has equipment for it to shine even told you that you should not get it due to a variety of reasons.

Your response to all of them was along the lines of "is this the best?". It's not, but it's a very good card for gaming. If you were only concerned with gaming performance, you should have gotten the fatality. If you wanted sound quality, you should have gotten the Elite Pro, but only after you dumped 5,000+ SGD? into your sound system where you would have quality components to possibly notice the difference in the output.

Btw sound is 2nd to me when it comes to gaming performance vs Sound.. i just want the best doesn't matter whether i fully use it or not

Then fatality would have suited you better is my point.

I don't understand "fully use it" vs. "best"

The way the Elite is better than the fatality is sound quality (and it seems creative doesn't have as high a priority on driver support on the Elite vs. the other X-Fi models). It seems like you compromised on it in order to get the "best" but just because it's the most expensive doesn't mean it's a good product for you to get. 5 or 6 people told you not to get it and why not to get it and you got it anyway.

Now I'm telling you that if you want to use it and have justification for getting the "best", you need to get some better speakers. Your excuses are you like your random 9.3 mix of multimedia speakers, you don't want large ones, and you like it how it is.

That's fine but why did you post this thread then? You post a picture and say "hi". Did you not want people to make intelligent observations and suggestions for you? I'm sure other members that read this are thinking "duh, he's a 15 year old that wanted to show off what he got" and that's fine, but I thought you might actually want some input to make your rig better. Maybe your friends wont appreciate it since upgrading your sound isn't something they care about, but I thought you might want to know there are better options out there and since you already wasted a few hundred SGD on that card, you might want to use it to its potential.
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I just looked at your old thread and about 5-6 different people told you not to get the Elite Pro because it would be wasted on your sound system. Your defense was that you had an excellent sound system. You do not. I've been trying to convince you that if you have the means to do so and a desire to get "the best" (which you've said a bunch of times already), spend some money on something that you actually will notice and might actually hold its value well. You'll even enjoy a good sound system if your priorities change and keeping up with the latest videocard and processor loses its appeal to you.

MS Dawn, who I think owns one and actually has equipment for it to shine even told you that you should not get it due to a variety of reasons.

Your response to all of them was along the lines of "is this the best?". It's not, but it's a very good card for gaming. If you were only concerned with gaming performance, you should have gotten the fatality. If you wanted sound quality, you should have gotten the Elite Pro, but only after you dumped 5,000+ SGD? into your sound system where you would have quality components to possibly notice the difference in the output.

Btw sound is 2nd to me when it comes to gaming performance vs Sound.. i just want the best doesn't matter whether i fully use it or not

Then fatality would have suited you better is my point.

I don't understand "fully use it" vs. "best"

The way the Elite is better than the fatality is sound quality (and it seems creative doesn't have as high a priority on driver support on the Elite vs. the other X-Fi models). It seems like you compromised on it in order to get the "best" but just because it's the most expensive doesn't mean it's a good product for you to get. 5 or 6 people told you not to get it and why not to get it and you got it anyway.

Now I'm telling you that if you want to use it and have justification for getting the "best", you need to get some better speakers. Your excuses are you like your random 9.3 mix of multimedia speakers, you don't want large ones, and you like it how it is.

That's fine but why did you post this thread then? You post a picture and say "hi". Did you not want people to make intelligent observations and suggestions for you? I'm sure other members that read this are thinking "duh, he's a 15 year old that wanted to show off what he got" and that's fine, but I thought you might actually want some input to make your rig better. Maybe your friends wont appreciate it since upgrading your sound isn't something they care about, but I thought you might want to know there are better options out there and since you already wasted a few hundred SGD on that card, you might want to use it to its potential.

i listen to alot of music though
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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If you're a music fan, that's a great reason to at least get a quality 2.1 set going.

Before you decide if it's for you though, you could go into some AV stores in your area with a demo disk and test out some different systems in your pricerange (whatever that is). Decide if having a nice sound system is something that appeals to you or not.
 

Kelnoen

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728


i listen to alot of music though

If you really want quality I am willing to let my videologic sonicfury go for around $220.

That is the very bestest card you can get and would make everyone jealous!!!
 

KeithTalent

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I can't believe this stupid thread is still going :roll:

The OP needs to spend less time measuring his e-penis online and more time in English class.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I can't believe this stupid thread is still going :roll:

The OP needs to spend less time measuring his e-penis online and more time in English class.

If he lives in Singapore, why does he need to have perfect English?
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: Kelnoen
Originally posted by: reddevil0728


i listen to alot of music though

If you really want quality I am willing to let my videologic sonicfury go for around $220.

That is the very bestest card you can get and would make everyone jealous!!!

r u gonna fly it to singapore?
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I can't believe this stupid thread is still going :roll:

The OP needs to spend less time measuring his e-penis online and more time in English class.

Native speaker doesn't mean your english is gd.. some of the time its worst than non native speaker
 

fatpat268

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Meh... it's all a waste of money IMO. Within a year, most of those components will be outdated to you since you seem like the kind of fella who needs to have the latest and greatest thing.

There's much more constructive things to do with the money... a lesser setup will play all the games perfectly fine and will cost you thousands less. Regardless... it was your money, and it was a waste of money.
 

Kelnoen

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: Kelnoen
Originally posted by: reddevil0728


i listen to alot of music though

If you really want quality I am willing to let my videologic sonicfury go for around $220.

That is the very bestest card you can get and would make everyone jealous!!!

r u gonna fly it to singapore?

For $220 I'll fly it to Azurbaijan!!! :p
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: Kelnoen
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: Kelnoen
Originally posted by: reddevil0728


i listen to alot of music though

If you really want quality I am willing to let my videologic sonicfury go for around $220.

That is the very bestest card you can get and would make everyone jealous!!!

r u gonna fly it to singapore?

For $220 I'll fly it to Azurbaijan!!! :p

500 rupiah okie... fly it to singapore instead
 

sestrugen

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I dont see the point of this thread. You come in here showing your hardware (which is very nice btw) and people give you advice according to what you explained you like but you refuse to take it and instead accuse people of being jeaulous. Im confused. :confused:
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: sestrugen
I dont see the point of this thread. You come in here showing your hardware (which is very nice btw) and people give you advice according to what you explained you like but you refuse to take it and instead accuse people of being jeaulous. Im confused. :confused:

no you're just jealous :p
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: sestrugen
I dont see the point of this thread. You come in here showing your hardware (which is very nice btw) and people give you advice according to what you explained you like but you refuse to take it and instead accuse people of being jeaulous. Im confused. :confused:

the money is spent.. wat to do>