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reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

I know, I was using an analogy to bind him to a stereotype. I know what you're saying, but because he says he thinks his sound is "just rite", I doubt he'll go out and spend $1k+ on a sound system, moreso since audio is usually tossed to the curb by gaming freaks with too much money.

EDIT: enthusiasts is too nice a word.

i prefer gaming performance for my com over the sound performance of my com
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

I know, I was using an analogy to bind him to a stereotype. I know what you're saying, but because he says he thinks his sound is "just rite", I doubt he'll go out and spend $1k+ on a sound system, moreso since audio is usually tossed to the curb by gaming freaks with too much money.

EDIT: enthusiasts is too nice a word.

Ah, gotcha.

I just thought I'd let him know that he can get a better experience out of his stuff if he actually wants to. I used to think my Logitechs sounded just right too, although I never hooked up a $300 soundcard to them ;)

Not quite the same ballpark
or even what they're best known for

:p

i just want to get the best
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

Having a large room is exactly why you shouldn't be using computer speakers. Filling a large space is not what these kind of speakers were designed to do. Yes, you can crank up your three systems (or just the logitech) to the point where nobody would want to be in the room, but they were designed to sound good in one specific location or "sweet spot". Loud is not the same as a good sound experience.

More is not always better either. Placement of your speakers is going to go a long way to getting a good experience out of them. Of course I don't really know how you're hooking up your 9 speakers around you or if you even use them all at once, so I guess I'll leave that alone.

Just be aware that doing something like you're doing might be doing more harm than good. Having speakers that are all timbre matched is preferred to have a more seamless experience. Placing three subs in a room can be hard as they can cancel each other out and create some tricky interference results at different points in your room. Having multiple speakers playing the same material may be detracting for your experience depending on how you have them placed. Well anyway, there are several reasons people don't go out and buy as many speakers as they want and stick them all around one room.

i prefer the setup

P.S. I will say what everyone here wants to say at this point...


You're an ass
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

Having a large room is exactly why you shouldn't be using computer speakers. Filling a large space is not what these kind of speakers were designed to do. Yes, you can crank up your three systems (or just the logitech) to the point where nobody would want to be in the room, but they were designed to sound good in one specific location or "sweet spot". Loud is not the same as a good sound experience.

More is not always better either. Placement of your speakers is going to go a long way to getting a good experience out of them. Of course I don't really know how you're hooking up your 9 speakers around you or if you even use them all at once, so I guess I'll leave that alone.

Just be aware that doing something like you're doing might be doing more harm than good. Having speakers that are all timbre matched is preferred to have a more seamless experience. Placing three subs in a room can be hard as they can cancel each other out and create some tricky interference results at different points in your room. Having multiple speakers playing the same material may be detracting for your experience depending on how you have them placed. Well anyway, there are several reasons people don't go out and buy as many speakers as they want and stick them all around one room.

i prefer the setup

P.S. I will say what everyone here wants to say at this point...


You're an ass
jealous
 

alimoalem

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dude wtf is wrong with you? why do you think everyone is jealous? don't even start thinking of saying i'm jealous because the only thing i think of you is dumb. i'm not a gamer in any way and have never had a gaming rig, hence no reason to feel jealousy. your unnecessary waste of money and disregard for constructive criticism is mind boggling. if you don't want to get help, don't waste our time, or at least my time. there are many people seeking some real help on these forums so don't add your useless junk. you're not even teasing us with a "how can i make this better" title. and as far as i'm concerned, you don't own any of that hardware; with return policies these days, anyone with a credit limit of $4000 can take a picture of those parts
 

Kelnoen

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

You'd be better off sticking to 2gb now IMHO.
You'll only be pissed when the standards change and the NEW 2gb sticks whoop the pants off your 4gb.
 

Kelnoen

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude wtf is wrong with you...

Well said,

I think you are getting this system just to say you have it rather than to actually use it.

Knowing what you will enjoy only comes from experience, in the end throwing money at things will give you a hollow feeling that throwing more money at won't cure.
Picking all the parts yourself, researching what works best, getting the most from the system would be far more satisfying than simply buying the most expensive stuff you can find.

I think almost everyone reading would agree.
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude wtf is wrong with you? why do you think everyone is jealous? don't even start thinking of saying i'm jealous because the only thing i think of you is dumb. i'm not a gamer in any way and have never had a gaming rig, hence no reason to feel jealousy. your unnecessary waste of money and disregard for constructive criticism is mind boggling. if you don't want to get help, don't waste our time, or at least my time. there are many people seeking some real help on these forums so don't add your useless junk. you're not even teasing us with a "how can i make this better" title. and as far as i'm concerned, you don't own any of that hardware; with return policies these days, anyone with a credit limit of $4000 can take a picture of those parts

okie
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: Kelnoen
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

You'd be better off sticking to 2gb now IMHO.
You'll only be pissed when the standards change and the NEW 2gb sticks whoop the pants off your 4gb.

when time comes i will upgrade
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: Kelnoen
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude wtf is wrong with you...

Well said,

I think you are getting this system just to say you have it rather than to actually use it.

Knowing what you will enjoy only comes from experience, in the end throwing money at things will give you a hollow feeling that throwing more money at won't cure.
Picking all the parts yourself, researching what works best, getting the most from the system would be far more satisfying than simply buying the most expensive stuff you can find.

I think almost everyone reading would agree.

the best stuff i get r quite expesnive
 

jpeyton

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So far we haven't seen one shot of the hardware out of the boxes, assembled, screenshots, anything.

For all we know, this guy's just a $7.50/hour geek at the local PC Club who decided to stack some hardware on a table and post some pictures for you guys to bicker over.

Don't feed the troll until he shows a little more than some cardboard on a table.

Thanks!
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
So far we haven't seen one shot of the hardware out of the boxes, assembled, screenshots, anything.

For all we know, this guy's just a $7.50/hour geek at the local PC Club who decided to stack some hardware on a table and post some pictures for you guys to bicker over.

Don't feed the troll until he shows a little more than some cardboard on a table.

Thanks!

wait then.... no motherboard when the mobo arrives everything will be out
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

Having a large room is exactly why you shouldn't be using computer speakers. Filling a large space is not what these kind of speakers were designed to do. Yes, you can crank up your three systems (or just the logitech) to the point where nobody would want to be in the room, but they were designed to sound good in one specific location or "sweet spot". Loud is not the same as a good sound experience.

More is not always better either. Placement of your speakers is going to go a long way to getting a good experience out of them. Of course I don't really know how you're hooking up your 9 speakers around you or if you even use them all at once, so I guess I'll leave that alone.

Just be aware that doing something like you're doing might be doing more harm than good. Having speakers that are all timbre matched is preferred to have a more seamless experience. Placing three subs in a room can be hard as they can cancel each other out and create some tricky interference results at different points in your room. Having multiple speakers playing the same material may be detracting for your experience depending on how you have them placed. Well anyway, there are several reasons people don't go out and buy as many speakers as they want and stick them all around one room.

i prefer the setup

How do you know you prefer it? Have you done any testing of anything else? I have the feeling you've never tried anything better and thus don't know what you're missing. I think I'm one of the few in here who has given you the benefit of the doubt that you might be in here looking for come constructive comments vs. just coming in here to say "jealous" to everyone.

I'm sure you looked at performance charts of other products before you got them. Did you look at performance charts and specs of your sound equipment before you got it so you knew what would be good to get?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
What's the X-Fi Elite Pro being used with?

Logitech z5500.... + etc etc.. so its 9.3 system in total.. 9 speakers 3 sub woofers

Might want to get a good system to match the rest of it.

isn't it gd enuf for x fi elite pro? cause the rest of the system consist of altec lansing n creative speakers.. i need to check the models

I think you'd be justified spending ~$70 on an xtreme music with those speakers. I'm not sure how much you paid for your X-Fi, but over here is't like $260. I don't think you're going to be able to tell much difference in output on those speakers to justify the ~4x as much the Elite Pro cost.

If you're really serious about getting something that actually sounds good and not just getting the most expensive soundcard and a rediculous X.Y system, there are a lot of great options out there that will sound leaps and bounds better than what you have now.

If I was getting a new gaming card for my sound system, I'm not sure I'd get anything beyond the basic X-Fi and I'm way beyond z-5500 level.
i think its just rite for the sound cards n system

How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

i think hving a big sound system in my room is ugly

It doesn't have to be big. There are a bunch of products out there that come in small sizes but will still be a LOT better then what you have right now.

Here are a bunch of small speaker options we have in the US with our pricing for example:
http://intellexual.net/speaker5.html

Anything on this list will blow your system away for sound quality and ability to fill your room with good sound.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

its 10000k SGD btw.. i am more concern abt performance and getting the best.. don't care whether it is fully use or wat

High quality speakers are all about performance and getting the best, what am I missing?