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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
What's the X-Fi Elite Pro being used with?

Logitech z5500.... + etc etc.. so its 9.3 system in total.. 9 speakers 3 sub woofers

Might want to get a good system to match the rest of it.

isn't it gd enuf for x fi elite pro? cause the rest of the system consist of altec lansing n creative speakers.. i need to check the models

I think you'd be justified spending ~$70 on an xtreme music with those speakers. I'm not sure how much you paid for your X-Fi, but over here is't like $260. I don't think you're going to be able to tell much difference in output on those speakers to justify the ~4x as much the Elite Pro cost.

If you're really serious about getting something that actually sounds good and not just getting the most expensive soundcard and a rediculous X.Y system, there are a lot of great options out there that will sound leaps and bounds better than what you have now.

If I was getting a new gaming card for my sound system, I'm not sure I'd get anything beyond the basic X-Fi and I'm way beyond z-5500 level.
 

Jschmuck2

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That's all?

Pffft.

I took a gigantic crap on a system waaay better than that this morning. Just because I could.
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
What's the X-Fi Elite Pro being used with?

Logitech z5500.... + etc etc.. so its 9.3 system in total.. 9 speakers 3 sub woofers

Might want to get a good system to match the rest of it.

isn't it gd enuf for x fi elite pro? cause the rest of the system consist of altec lansing n creative speakers.. i need to check the models

I think you'd be justified spending ~$70 on an xtreme music with those speakers. I'm not sure how much you paid for your X-Fi, but over here is't like $260. I don't think you're going to be able to tell much difference in output on those speakers to justify the ~4x as much the Elite Pro cost.

If you're really serious about getting something that actually sounds good and not just getting the most expensive soundcard and a rediculous X.Y system, there are a lot of great options out there that will sound leaps and bounds better than what you have now.

If I was getting a new gaming card for my sound system, I'm not sure I'd get anything beyond the basic X-Fi and I'm way beyond z-5500 level.
i think its just rite for the sound cards n system
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

Having a large room is exactly why you shouldn't be using computer speakers. Filling a large space is not what these kind of speakers were designed to do. Yes, you can crank up your three systems (or just the logitech) to the point where nobody would want to be in the room, but they were designed to sound good in one specific location or "sweet spot". Loud is not the same as a good sound experience.

More is not always better either. Placement of your speakers is going to go a long way to getting a good experience out of them. Of course I don't really know how you're hooking up your 9 speakers around you or if you even use them all at once, so I guess I'll leave that alone.

Just be aware that doing something like you're doing might be doing more harm than good. Having speakers that are all timbre matched is preferred to have a more seamless experience. Placing three subs in a room can be hard as they can cancel each other out and create some tricky interference results at different points in your room. Having multiple speakers playing the same material may be detracting for your experience depending on how you have them placed. Well anyway, there are several reasons people don't go out and buy as many speakers as they want and stick them all around one room.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
What's the X-Fi Elite Pro being used with?

Logitech z5500.... + etc etc.. so its 9.3 system in total.. 9 speakers 3 sub woofers

Might want to get a good system to match the rest of it.

isn't it gd enuf for x fi elite pro? cause the rest of the system consist of altec lansing n creative speakers.. i need to check the models

I think you'd be justified spending ~$70 on an xtreme music with those speakers. I'm not sure how much you paid for your X-Fi, but over here is't like $260. I don't think you're going to be able to tell much difference in output on those speakers to justify the ~4x as much the Elite Pro cost.

If you're really serious about getting something that actually sounds good and not just getting the most expensive soundcard and a rediculous X.Y system, there are a lot of great options out there that will sound leaps and bounds better than what you have now.

If I was getting a new gaming card for my sound system, I'm not sure I'd get anything beyond the basic X-Fi and I'm way beyond z-5500 level.
i think its just rite for the sound cards n system

How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.
 

Ika

Lifer
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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.
 

Ika

Lifer
Mar 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

I know, I was using an analogy to bind him to a stereotype. I know what you're saying, but because he says he thinks his sound is "just rite", I doubt he'll go out and spend $1k+ on a sound system, moreso since audio is usually tossed to the curb by gaming freaks with too much money.

EDIT: enthusiasts is too nice a word.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

I know, I was using an analogy to bind him to a stereotype. I know what you're saying, but because he says he thinks his sound is "just rite", I doubt he'll go out and spend $1k+ on a sound system, moreso since audio is usually tossed to the curb by gaming freaks with too much money.

EDIT: enthusiasts is too nice a word.

Ah, gotcha.

I just thought I'd let him know that he can get a better experience out of his stuff if he actually wants to. I used to think my Logitechs sounded just right too, although I never hooked up a $300 soundcard to them ;)

Not quite the same ballpark
or even what they're best known for

:p
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: alimoalem
dude, you don't need 4GBs of ram...why's it so hard to understand?

and what's with the 9.3? i have a 5.1 and i doubt i even use a third of it's power...if you crank up your system to full, i think you'll REALLY be able to enjoy the sounds coming out of it...for 2 seconds.

why can't i get 4 gb for future use..
my room is quite big so 9.3 is just nice

Having a large room is exactly why you shouldn't be using computer speakers. Filling a large space is not what these kind of speakers were designed to do. Yes, you can crank up your three systems (or just the logitech) to the point where nobody would want to be in the room, but they were designed to sound good in one specific location or "sweet spot". Loud is not the same as a good sound experience.

More is not always better either. Placement of your speakers is going to go a long way to getting a good experience out of them. Of course I don't really know how you're hooking up your 9 speakers around you or if you even use them all at once, so I guess I'll leave that alone.

Just be aware that doing something like you're doing might be doing more harm than good. Having speakers that are all timbre matched is preferred to have a more seamless experience. Placing three subs in a room can be hard as they can cancel each other out and create some tricky interference results at different points in your room. Having multiple speakers playing the same material may be detracting for your experience depending on how you have them placed. Well anyway, there are several reasons people don't go out and buy as many speakers as they want and stick them all around one room.

i prefer the setup
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: reddevil0728
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
What's the X-Fi Elite Pro being used with?

Logitech z5500.... + etc etc.. so its 9.3 system in total.. 9 speakers 3 sub woofers

Might want to get a good system to match the rest of it.

isn't it gd enuf for x fi elite pro? cause the rest of the system consist of altec lansing n creative speakers.. i need to check the models

I think you'd be justified spending ~$70 on an xtreme music with those speakers. I'm not sure how much you paid for your X-Fi, but over here is't like $260. I don't think you're going to be able to tell much difference in output on those speakers to justify the ~4x as much the Elite Pro cost.

If you're really serious about getting something that actually sounds good and not just getting the most expensive soundcard and a rediculous X.Y system, there are a lot of great options out there that will sound leaps and bounds better than what you have now.

If I was getting a new gaming card for my sound system, I'm not sure I'd get anything beyond the basic X-Fi and I'm way beyond z-5500 level.
i think its just rite for the sound cards n system

How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

i think hving a big sound system in my room is ugly
 

reddevil0728

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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

its 10000k SGD btw.. i am more concern abt performance and getting the best.. don't care whether it is fully use or wat
 

reddevil0728

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May 21, 2006
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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
How are you deciding that it sounds just right? Because it was the most expensive gaming card?

Within the category of X-Fi, there are a few decisions you have to make about what you want based on the four cards they offer. You seem like the kind of guy that would want the X-Ram to just get the possibility that it will help you out later for gaming performance. I think the decision to get the Elite card vs. the Fatality should be decided on what you're using for your output device.

I don't think the quality on the output components you've listed warrant spending that much to get the slightly better output of the Elite card. I'm just going off what I've heard from other people and the reviews I've read though. You're definately getting well into diminishing returns on your soundcard while you've got a ton more room to move up in your speakers.

I'm telling you that your speakers are the bottleneck in your audio performance. Just like your dual 7950GX2s would be wasted running 800x600 with no effects on, you've got this audio card capable of very good output and you've got them hooked up to something where that extra performace isn't going to shine.

I think minimum you should be looking at $1k (and probably more like $5k) spend on speakers where you'd be justified spending that much on your card.

It seems that you can afford it, so I say go for it and do it right. A good audio system is going to hold its value a LOT better than anything else you've shown us.

I don't think you're going to reach him. He seems like the kind of guy who buys a $4000 computer with a $1000 CPU and $150 graphics cards... in SLI!

I looked up the price because I was confused. The cards he got are $630 each according to RTPE?

He's done what you're saying for audio, but I just figured he didn't know any better because people tend not to make as big a deal about sound. I think a lot of people think z-5500s / Promedia Ultra / Creative gigaworks are the best options out there.

Its all in SGD