My Professor

[DigitalWanksta]

Well, it's more of a sense of security. If I'm armed, I feel secure. You can't really start depicting what if this, what if that scenarios because what if the world ended in 30 seconds? Then we wouldn't have to worry about any of this, would we? It's just the fact that we live in a different society today, and it will get to a point where you won't even feel safe in your own home (some feel this already) and the only way to go about trying to have a sense of living in peace is to be armed. When I turn 21, I'm getting my concealed deadly weapons permit for sure.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: 0
Gun control aside, there is no reason this guy should have been allowed to purchase a handgun if he had mental illness that WAS reported back in 2005.

I think that handguns should have more stringent regulations than long arms, as they are easy to conceal, and seem to be a favorite of the nuts out there. If he was walking around with a shotgun, it would have set off alarms vs. packing inside his coat.

when did he purchase the guns? before 2005? he was fine back then. and reported how? his teacher said he was disturbed? that doesn't go on any record.

also, handguns DO have stricter regulations than long arms.

I believe in Virginia anyone can purchase guns with no background check as long as it is just one every thirty days. A criminal check is done at a gun store, but you can buy in a private gun sale and have no check. Also no waiting period. He could have walked out of a psych ward and bought one the same day.



"Virginia
Virginia allows unlicensed open carry of a handgun that has a capacity of twenty rounds or less, unthreaded barrel and no collapsible stock. (Most handguns fall under this category). Open carry is defined as the gun's true nature is not hidden from general view.

Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP) holders are exempt from:

One gun a month rules
Rules regarding open carry firearm restrictions (see above)
General College Carry Restrictions Offical Attorney General Opinion
Gun Free School Zone act, CHP holders are allowed to have guns on school grounds in their personal vehicles as long as they stay in the car
Ban regarding firearms in VA General Assembly.
Virginia CHPs are shall issue.

Open Carry is done throughout the state mainly by Concealed Carry Permit Holders as they enter alcohol serving restaurants as required by state law. However, in more rural parts of Virginia it is more common as a CHP costs money that some rural residents may not be able to afford.

In urban areas, open carry is extremely uncommon, but not unheard of nor illegal under Virginia State law. However, local law enforcement has been known to stop and question individuals who do so. This is becoming less common as police officers come to a greater understanding of the law and become less concerned with citizens open carrying.

Under Virginia code Virginia Statute 15.2-915 localities may no longer regulate the firearms with sole exception of regulation of discharge of firearms.

See the packing.org Virginia Page.

NFA34 weapons are allowed under Virginia state law but machine guns must be registered with Virginia State Police.

 

[Luthien]

After religion is banned I will give up my gun.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Report him to the dean and call the news. Expose him for what he is.

A person exercising his first amendment rights?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Martin

Originally posted by: DigitalWanksta

Originally posted by: Shivetya
the problem wasn't that the bad guy had a gun, the problem was that no one else did.

AMEN!

I really wish people would try to think more than one step ahead.

Ok, so everyone is armed and psycho kid still wants to kill some people. Well, psycho kid gets an explosive and throws it in a lecture hall. A grenade has a kill radius of ~5m (78.5m^2) and lots of lectures have 120 people packed in a space of about 7*10m. What are your guns going to do then?

you can "what if" and bs about escalation all you want, but if someone wants to kill a bunch of people, they are going to go about it however they can find the way. the easiest way is to find a few guns and go on a spree. will there be situations where firearms wont save you? surely. will there be situations where you may be able to save your and maybe other peoples lives by having and knowing how to use a firearm? definitely.

will my 9mm save me from a mad bomber? depends on how its executed. if he walks into a room with a deadman switch and a vest full of c4 then probably not. but i can drop him at the doorway instead of the middle of the room. if he was going to use explosives, there could be a timer delay, and already be placed in the room. theres no saving from that unless you find it before the trigger. theres too many "what ifs" involved in all that, no real point in even worrying about it. what happens if a crazy skinhead runs in my office with a shotgun? he caps the front office lady at most, and i hear the shot, draw and get him when he shows himself in the hall. instead of 20 dead, theres maybe 2.

cliffs: just because the crazy knows other people may have a gun doesnt mean he will go get a hand grenade.

 

[AMCRambler]

I'm sending this dude to see your perfesser.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: 0
Gun control aside, there is no reason this guy should have been allowed to purchase a handgun if he had mental illness that WAS reported back in 2005.

I think that handguns should have more stringent regulations than long arms, as they are easy to conceal, and seem to be a favorite of the nuts out there. If he was walking around with a shotgun, it would have set off alarms vs. packing inside his coat.

To the contrary. If I bought a semi automatic 12 gauge and sawed off the barrel and butt I could easily conceal it and do significantly more harm than a 9mm.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: spidey07
Report him to the dean and call the news. Expose him for what he is.

A professor with tenure that has the ability to speak his mind freely without fear of termination for his comments?

But protesting his comments everyday and rallying for him to leave CAN work.

Just call up a few talk shows, get it recorded, and railroad him out of town.

OP could even use PC in his favor this time. Say how hurt he was by the comments and how his entire belief in the educational system is broken by the words of this professor. OP may even have to seek counseling just to deal with the blow.

Just so that you can excercise your agenda and bring attention to it...Right, so where is it stated that your agenda is the only one that is valid, and his is somehow illegal, worthy of being revoked of tenure?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: gwrober

Originally posted by: jemcam
Unfortunately universities are filled with professors that have liberal agendas that they feel they have the responsiblities to expound on.

Luckily you have a brain of your own and can reason. You also did the right thing by not questioning him.

:thumbsup:

Just as they are filled with those touting conservative agendas. Plenty professors tout evidence within specific fields that support a particular paradigm that is controversial within that field.

Bottom line, if you accept any professor's word as gospel without doing your own investigation into the material, you're being a poor student. So what if he has an opinion on gun control? Did he even mention which side of the plate he stands on?

 

[JEDIYoda]

rofl@the gun control peeps....lolol...guns don`t fire by themselves.....

 

[0]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: 0
Gun control aside, there is no reason this guy should have been allowed to purchase a handgun if he had mental illness that WAS reported back in 2005.

I think that handguns should have more stringent regulations than long arms, as they are easy to conceal, and seem to be a favorite of the nuts out there. If he was walking around with a shotgun, it would have set off alarms vs. packing inside his coat.

when did he purchase the guns? before 2005? he was fine back then. and reported how? his teacher said he was disturbed? that doesn't go on any record.

also, handguns DO have stricter regulations than long arms.

He purchased it a couple of months ago, if you cared to check.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: herm0016
lots of people are blaming the 9mil hand gun and the movies/video games. the thing on cbs last night was horrid. saying how the gun has been " romatisized". do they really think that criminals care if there gun is legal? its already easer to buy a gun illegally than it is to get it registered with the background check and all the rest of the crap. blame society, blame the kid, don't blame the weapon he chose.

Simple solution. Ban all guns. Illegal or otherwise. Works for some countries.

wait. How do you ban something that is already illegal? *Head asplodes*


simple solution alright, dumbass.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: deerslayer

Originally posted by: zoiks
Simple solution. Ban all guns. Illegal or otherwise. Works for some countries.

Right. :roll: That will stop the criminals from getting guns.

No. But it will stop a lot of people from becoming criminals.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: gwrober

Originally posted by: jemcam
Unfortunately universities are filled with professors that have liberal agendas that they feel they have the responsiblities to expound on.

Luckily you have a brain of your own and can reason. You also did the right thing by not questioning him.

:thumbsup:

Just as they are filled with those touting conservative agendas. Plenty professors tout evidence within specific fields that support a particular paradigm that is controversial within that field.

Bottom line, if you accept any professor's word as gospel without doing your own investigation into the material, you're being a poor student. So what if he has an opinion on gun control? Did he even mention which side of the plate he stands on?

Just as they are filled with those touting conservative agendas.

Did he even mention which side of the plate he stands on?

You crack me up dude. Are you serious???????

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: DigitalWanksta
I walk into my Economics class today, for the first time since the VT shootings. My professor starts class with a serious; "I don't know what to say about the situation at Virginia Tech that hasn't already been said by others. However, I'll say this; you need to grieve but you need to do something about gun control or your kids will be in the situation that you?re in today."

Let me set the scene for you here because this guy is the type that thinks he knows everything. He makes sure you're aware that he has earned his PhD, etc.. Does he not realize that no matter what you do with gun control, you won't be able to stop a killer from executing his plan? If the government decides tomorrow to increase severe gun control and keep weapons out of reach, this will not keep a situation from taking place such as Virginia Tech.

I just got out of this class, and I felt the need to post it. It really just rubbed me the wrong way because he almost seemed insensible to those victims and their families so he could place more focus on what he thinks the government should do.

/end rant

Wow I'm surprised this came from an Econ professor...even at bend over liberal UCLA, the worst (most leftist) Econ professor I ever had was a tax everything to solve social ills - but all were most close to Libertarian.

How the hell does a liberal get a PhD in modern Economics? It's an oxymoron.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: 0
Gun control aside, there is no reason this guy should have been allowed to purchase a handgun if he had mental illness that WAS reported back in 2005.

I think that handguns should have more stringent regulations than long arms, as they are easy to conceal, and seem to be a favorite of the nuts out there. If he was walking around with a shotgun, it would have set off alarms vs. packing inside his coat.

when did he purchase the guns? before 2005? he was fine back then. and reported how? his teacher said he was disturbed? that doesn't go on any record.

also, handguns DO have stricter regulations than long arms.

He purchased it a couple of months ago, if you cared to check.

ok, but still, reported mental illness how? was he in an institution?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: DaWhim
economics department is probably the most insensitive department you can find on your campus.

This is probably true. People = numbers

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson

Originally posted by: RedCOMET

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: G Wizard
this issue is not about gun control.
its really about Korean control.

BAN!

Please find another board to troll.

not trolling. ridiculous notion eh?
proves my point how ineffective gun control is.

yeh... it was trolling. it was the very essence of trolling. you should have just noted you feel stricter gun control would be ineffective instead of implying that it had to do with the guy being Korean.

I actually thought his post was sorta funny. Along similar lines though, maybe there should be stricter control over who buys bullets. A gun is only useful if it has bullets in it, right?

His post wasn't funny, but yours reminds me of a Chris Rock bit where he said give whoever wants a gun a weapon of their choice, but charge $50 per bullet.

That way you'll be inclined to really think about shooting before you pull the trigger.

He said something like:

"Man, I would shoot your ass, but my bullet's on layaway! You just wait!"

i love armchair economists

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: 0
Gun control aside, there is no reason this guy should have been allowed to purchase a handgun if he had mental illness that WAS reported back in 2005.

I think that handguns should have more stringent regulations than long arms, as they are easy to conceal, and seem to be a favorite of the nuts out there. If he was walking around with a shotgun, it would have set off alarms vs. packing inside his coat.

when did he purchase the guns? before 2005? he was fine back then. and reported how? his teacher said he was disturbed? that doesn't go on any record.

also, handguns DO have stricter regulations than long arms.

He purchased it a couple of months ago, if you cared to check.

ok, but still, reported mental illness how? was he in an institution?

Published: Wednesday, April 18, 2007

BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) - There's another disturbing revelation about the man who went on a murderous rampage at Virginia Tech university - he spent time in a mental institution, and had bothered women.

At a news conference this morning, Virginia Tech police chief Wendell Flinchum explained that in the fall of 2005, two women complained about Cho Seung-Hui contacting them, and said they wanted him stopped.

After contact with the second woman, Flinchum says an acquaintance of the reclusive Cho feared he might be suicidal.

Cho was also admitted to a mental institution for a time.

Flinchum also says neither of the women who complained were among Cho's victims Monday.

He adds Cho did not do anything to threaten or harm the women, but they were not comfortable with his contact with them.

Up until this point, the only past behaviour reported of Cho was that he wrote disturbing English assignments, and that one professor suggested he get counselling.

Cho killed himself Monday after 32 students and faculty were gunned down in two separate incidents.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world...22-5213-44b1-ae54-5e72fcdacfa4&k=48562

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
rofl@the gun control peeps....lolol...guns don`t fire by themselves.....

I really expect nothing but nonsense to come from you anymore--as do many others im sure. No one said guns fire themselves. Some people should not be allowed to have them. Period. I mean, come on, a green card and a drivers license is all he needed to get one? That plus a quick check for warrants. A psych eval, an IQ test, and a questioning by authorities about why one WANTS (there is no "need" here) a gun should be adminstered before anyone gets a gun. But of course you crazy righties would howl at the top of your lungs if buying a gun was at all limited to smart, sane people.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: George P Burdell

Originally posted by: Shivetya
the problem wasn't that the bad guy had a gun, the problem was that no one else did.

The problem with your argument

Even though that opinion appears on a partisan site, it is still worth a read.

The problem is you might miss... ?


It's literally astounding the logical leaps that people will go to in order to push their agenda. Your minds are like a tabloid newspaper -- you come to your conclusions first.

no. the problem clearly states that in a 100% armed society, you now have the problem of identifying the target. Everyone has a gun, so who is the criminal? what are the cops supposed to think when they arrive?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: JS80

Wow I'm surprised this came from an Econ professor...even at bend over liberal UCLA, the worst (most leftist) Econ professor I ever had was a tax everything to solve social ills - but all were most close to Libertarian.

How the hell does a liberal get a PhD in modern Economics? It's an oxymoron.

Out of curiousity, which professor are you talking about. I was an econ major at UCLA a few years back.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Report him to the dean and call the news. Expose him for what he is.

A college professor who makes his political views known? That's unheard of! Alert the media!

 

[jemcam]

But of course you crazy righties would howl at the top of your lungs if buying a gun was at all limited to smart, sane people.

While I agree that guns should not be accessible by those with mental illness. Your comment about IQ tests is stupid. Ever heard of the second amendment?

Your requirements remind me of the "reading tests" adminstered in the 20's in order to vote, which kept a lot of blacks from voting.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
My buddy goes to one of the Univ. of Wisconsin schools. In his American history class the professor started out the class talking about the bill of rights, and how they are not up to interpretation. She started talking about the 1st Amendment and the freedoms it gaurantees. Then as soon as she got to the second amendment she started talking about how this just gives us the right to form militias, not to own guns. I thought it was kind of ironic how she stated that the bill of rights isn't up for interpretation but then she put her liberal interpretative spin on the second amendment.

So, it's not been misinterpreted as a right to own guns? Who misinterpreted it...