My next phone should it be Android, iOS, or even Windows Mobile ?

[Phynaz]

android phone. havent used an iphone since ios7, that was like... 2013? Anyway, i still have ipads/iphones around, stored away somewhere in a closet, collecting dust.

Just like my android devices.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Just like my android devices.

devices that have features you do not enjoy checkmate. discussion over. bye bye

 

[Phynaz]

oh really? checking.... app store is still the only option. Say that again when i can go on a website and just download an IOS app right there without the need to open up the app store or iTunes account.

I have non app store apps on my stock iPhone right now. You should have at least googled it before you replied. How do you think companies put custom apps on their employees phones? How do you think developers get apps on their phones?

You still refuse to mention what device you are using...it leaves me to presume it's some crapphone your parents got you free with contract.

 

[MarkizSchnitzel]

Got a cheap one off contract. Running on windows 8.1.

And there is the problem.
With 2GB of RAM, this "Loading..." And "Resuming.." issue does not realy exist.

Of course, device choices running windows are very few.

Also, go to settings -> Start screen and there you can set the wallpaper.

In W10Mobile it can also be a proper wallpaper (behind the tiles), but in WP8.1 it's like a tile overlay. Still looks much neater than the mess that is the average Android, IMHO, but less customizable.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

I have non app store apps on my stock iPhone right now. You should have at least googled it before you replied.

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I dont know if you are simply arguing just for the sake of being stubborn or what. Sure you can if you jailbreak and have cydia on there. Otherwise any third party app must be approve by apple which is no different than downloading it from the app store. In either case, you still need the itune utility. Have fun crashing firmware and ahcking your phone then. If you are advantageous enough to thinkering your device to such a degree, you are better off with an android.

 

[Phynaz]

I dont know if you are simply arguing just for the sake of being stubborn or what. Sure you can if you jailbreak and have cydia on there. Otherwise any third party app must be approve by apple which is no different than downloading it from the app store. In either case, you still need the itune utility. Have fun crashing firmware and ahcking your phone then. If you are advantageous enough to think your device to such a degree, you are better off with an android.

You're still wrong. I told you I have stock ios. I'm not dumb enough to risk bricking my $900 phone.

Who's the stubborn one? Give up, you're clueless.

I'm done until you learn how to use Google.

 

[Phynaz]

And there is the problem.
With 2GB of RAM, this "Loading..." And "Resuming.." issue does not realy exist.

Of course, device choices running windows are very few.

Also, go to settings -> Start screen and there you can set the wallpaper.

In W10Mobile it can also be a proper wallpaper (behind the tiles), but in WP8.1 it's like a tile overlay. Still looks much neater than the mess that is the average Android, IMHO, but less customizable.

Kid is back in 2012.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

I have non app store apps on my stock iPhone right now. You should have at least googled it before you replied. How do you think companies put custom apps on their employees phones? How do you think developers get apps on their phones?

You still refuse to mention what device you are using...it leaves me to presume it's some crapphone your parents got you free with contract.

Alcatel one touch idol. You happy now? are you suffering from an inferiority complex right now? Why do i find so many on tech forums who like to single out whether one's device come from one's parents or not age discrimination because you look down on teenagers :hmm:
My parents didnt buy me the phone, i purchase the phones for myself and for my parents. I broke the ones off contract.

Ipads and phones that i mentioned did come from parents tho, that was few years back and they are now collecting dust in my closet like i said good riddance.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

You're still wrong. I told you I have stock ios. I'm not dumb enough to risk bricking my $900 phone.

Who's the stubborn one? Give up, you're clueless.

I'm done until you learn how to use Google.

From this response i can tell..
1) you are lying
2) refusing to give up, stubborn, and lying
3) angry and mad so you will keep on spewing out the same stuff whether they are true or not+all of the above.

 

[Ichinisan]

From this response i can tell..
1) you are lying
2) refusing to give up, stubborn, and lying
3) angry and mad so you will keep on spewing out the same stuff whether they are true or not+all of the above.

Keep digging your hole...

 

[poofyhairguy]

I'm done with computers and devices demanding my time and energy. I have human mouths to feed. My Android phone is less alluring to me than my child's desire to play outside with her dad, or some Disney Infinity on the weekend. ..

You overstate how difficult Android phones are to use. They are basically appliances too, just more computer-like appliances. You don't have to root them or hack them. That is optional.

Honestly I spend LESS time screwing around on Android because I can directly do things I want to do. For example:

I want a mkv file on my phone? On iOS that means finding a player that is only sold for that platform, and getting the file on the device via Dropbox or some trick unique to the media app I bought, which often requires a PC in the middle. With Android I open the file manager and copy it off the server like I would do on a PC, and then when its done I play the file in Kodi like I do on a PC. It's easier and I can do it all on the phone.

Or let's say I want a custom ringtone of some video game sound effect. On an iPhone, even with a ringtone app to cut the steps, you HAVE TO go through iTunes and a computer. With my Android phone I open my ringtone app, search for the wav file I downloaded, edit it to be ringtone length, and then set it as a ringtone IN THE APP. Much easier and all done on the phone.

I could go on, for example using the same USB drive my PC uses is real nice. Point being assuming iOS is easier for all tasks in 2016 is folly. It is only easier to do what Apple pre-determined you can do, everything else is jumping through hoops.

 

[christian1990]

I'm happy with my Samsung S5.

 

[CZroe]

One key difference, rooting does not need to use an exploit to hack the system. You certainly do not find developer phones like nexus requiring an exploit now do you? that defeats the whole purpose of unlocking the bootloader for android development. Bootloader unlocked phone is meant to grant superuser access should the consumer desire it. It isnt rooting but allows you to root it with ADB if you can flash a working binary for it.

And really, if IOS users simply want it to work, why would there be such a large jailbreaking community? Remember, jailbreaking is a lot harder than rooting because a hack is required and can be pretty unstable. That is anything but user friendly, convenient, and peace of mind for the user.

Semantics. Just because certain devices and models don't require an exploit doesn't mean that the MAJORITY need to exploit something to root it. Ever rooted Android device I have ever had has required an exploit to root without consequences. Sure, Sony's website would unlock the boot loader of a generic Xperia PLAY, but my Xperia PLAY 4G was AT&T branded. Most people had the Verizon model that they out-right removed from their boot loader unlocking service when they realized people were unlocking them. Even if their service did support your phone, you lost the encryption keys that enabled access to certain apps. It's very similar to rooting my Galaxy Note 3 much later. Even though I got the T-Mobile model with the unlocked boot loader (every other carrier's boot loaders were locked), I had to use the "De La Vega" exploit to root it without tripping the Knox flag and losing Knox security container, wireless payments, etc. After that I had to use TowelRoot (thanks, geohot) and other exploits. There are exploits I had to use before and after these examples and I have yet to encounter a device that I could just install a SU binary and be rooted. Once rooted I lost access to many apps including ISIS mobile payments, Square-Enix apps, etc. Thanks, Obama.

 

[CZroe]

Dont forget ad blocker. I can literally go on a website, download a software and then install it on my phone like on a pc. no root necessary. No such thing on IOS. Sfari is also lacking a download manager and the system itself has no file browser. Correct me if im wrong but i dont believe there is third party browser alternative on the app store. Even chrome for ios is simply a plugin/skin on top of the safari. On android firefox or chrome, i can download whatever the hell i want, even videos. I can just go to a streaming site and long press the the screen and then select save. Video will then download in the background. Afterwards, i dump them into my video folder and they appear on my default movie app playlist. sweet

Due to the serious consequences of the Netscape/Microsoft spat, Apple didn't dare stop Opera in 2009. It's still available.

 

[openwheel]

In the 2 years I owned the G2, I never knew you could tap the screen twice to awaken. I always pressed the back button.

LOL

 

[sweenish]

Android does not require root to ad block.

System-wide, like I said, absolutely does require root. It's important to read complete sentences. I'm well aware of Firefox + add-on, or the Ad-block browser, or Dolphin + add-on. But that's not what I said.

You arent following my argument are you? Android does not need to root to download 3rd party apps either, unlike IOS which many people jailbreak just to download pirated/hacked/mod apps... not that i condone that.

I didn't mention third party apps. It's funny you would ask me about following arguments, when everything you post is in its own vacuum. You're not following jack.

Rooting is for flash a custom OS on your device nowadays.

No, unlocking is for flashing custom ROMs. ROM flashing has no relation to rooting other than the fact that they are often done together. Rooting is exactly what it sounds like, gaining root access. How can you be so adamant about stuff you know so little about?

Many root required apps on android are no longer necessary because many of the functions are already integrated into the OS.

This is a parrot line. Root + Xposed is still going very strong in the community. And many of the main reasons people root phones still require root, like system-wide ad-blocking, Titanium Backup, etc. (I know Marshmallow can do it, but it's dependent on app developers to target Marshmallow, and basically none of them do it)

On iPhone, you still need to jailbreak which in my analogy, i compare it to breaking down your own door, just to have features and functionalities android users enjoy WITHOUT ROOT. E.g. adding widgets, e.g adding automation, e.g ad block obviously :awe: and my favorite, custom launcher with wide myriad of theme packs. I can get my home screen to look anything i want it too.

What you do you think the word jailbreak means? It's right there in the word. You're breaking out of jail. Your comparison that you obviously spent so much time on is not even as good as the actual name of the process. And again, this wasn't anywhere in my argument. You're acting like I don't know this stuff. You barely know this stuff.

windows 10 for mobile is still in beta the last time i check. If it is not yet commercial mainstream, why even bother to compare?

And when was the last time you checked? Have you considered that maybe people keep telling you that you are using old information for a reason? WP10 came out in the tail end of 2015.

Rooting is nowhere as difficult as IOS, many android phones today are bootloader unlocked while IOS bootloader is shut tight. If an OEM is close minded like apple and decide to shut down their version of android, there is always the option to switch over to another manufacturer. No such freedom for IOS. Either accept apple's tight control or jailbreak.

At what point did you fail to read where I wrote, depending on the device? The Droid Turbo 2 is a great example. Go ahead and tell me how to root that phone.

Get your ducks in a row, stop arguing with old information and lies.

 

[Phynaz]

From this response i can tell..
1) you are lying
2) refusing to give up, stubborn, and lying
3) angry and mad so you will keep on spewing out the same stuff whether they are true or not+all of the above.

Let me ask you one or two questions again...

How do you think a software developer puts their application on a phone? How do you think companies distribute in-house applications that aren't available on the app store?

You're a teenager. You've seen very, very little of how the world works. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Accusing somebody of being a liar because they know something you don't is....well...teenager-y.

So far I've been giving you a break because you are young and naive. Now you have an opportunity to change your ignorance into knowledge. Or not. I'll admit to being curious to see what you will do next. It will be very telling of your maturity and character.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Let me ask you one or two questions again...

How do you think a software developer puts their application on a phone? How do you think companies distribute in-house applications that aren't available on the app store?

You're a teenager. You've seen very, very little of how the world works. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Accusing somebody of being a liar because they know something you don't is....well...teenager-y.

So far I've been giving you a break because you are young and naive. Now you have an opportunity to change your ignorance into knowledge. Or not. I'll admit to being curious to see what you will do next. It will be very telling of your maturity and character.

They do this once they receive a certificate of signature from apple which requires apples scrutiny and approval. Without certificate, no apps can be install. No such thing on Android. If your ios9 prompts you to give permission to install from "unknown sources", its not unknown, they have a legitimate certificate.

Dont play the maturity card. Depressingly, i find too many bad examples of maturity from those that i'd expect better. just saying

 

[cytg111]

Ubuntu

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Jailbreaking means hacking. rooting does not.

No, android does not require root for ad block. Check out adguard. It uses VPN to filter out ads within apps and browser whilst its ios counterparts work on browser only because of apple restrictions

"No, unlocking is for flashing custom ROMs. ROM flashing has no relation to rooting other than the fact that they are often done together. Rooting is exactly what it sounds like, gaining root access. How can you be so adamant about stuff you know so little about?"

We no longer need root to tether, to take screen shot. No need for root to download unsanctioned apps, no root to ad block, no root to use custom launcher, not even root to back up apps. Unrooted version of lucky patcher does that. x-posed is adding features found in certain other roms without flashing the roms itself. Hows that different than flashing custom rom? Oh, did i mention we dont need hack?

"At what point did you fail to read where I wrote, depending on the device? The Droid Turbo 2 is a great example."
Countless android OEM have unlocked bootloader which means android users always have alternatives. This fact alone invalidates your premise. Android is free and open source. that is cold hard fact.

 

[CZroe]

You DO need root or unlocked boot loader with and alternate ROM to tether with many carrier-specific models (read: MOST phones from any carrier that would block it on Apple devices in the first place).

You can block ads with a VPN on Apple devices too.

 

[poofyhairguy]

You DO need root or unlocked boot loader with and alternate ROM to tether with many carrier-specific models .

Or you can just sideload PdaNet+, which doesn't need root.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Or you can just sideload PdaNet+, which doesn't need root.

But can it block in app advertisement? Like if you launch an app, can you block the annoying banner it displays or the annoying video advertisement that pops up? I dont think so because if it does, apple will mostly likely throw it out of the app store for interfering with other apps functionality.

 

[poofyhairguy]

But can it block in app advertisement? Like if you launch an app, can you block the annoying banner it displays or the annoying video advertisement that pops up? I dont think so because if it does, apple will mostly likely throw it out of the app store for interfering with other apps functionality.

Uh... I was talking about how you don't need rooting or ROMing to tether an Android phone. Thanks to sideloading it can be done on a stock device.

I don't know about iOS but in Android you need root to block in-app ads well.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Uh... I was talking about how you don't need rooting or ROMing to tether an Android phone. Thanks to sideloading it can be done on a stock device.

I don't know about iOS but in Android you need root to block in-app ads well.

Exactly, thats the point i was trying to debate. Android can block ads in apps as well without root. Of course you have to download it from third party website because google play remove them from the play store. IOS however cant do that because it can not install apps not sanction by apple without jailbreak.